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If the South was to secede again, would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865?
1 posted on 10/17/2013 8:45:51 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre
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To: ComtedeMaistre

If an individual state was to seceed, or one state here and one state there.....


2 posted on 10/17/2013 8:46:45 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: ComtedeMaistre

No.

Look for the USA to break-up down the road.


3 posted on 10/17/2013 8:48:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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You mean idealistic patriotic citizen foot soldiers for largess in the North willing to go fight somebody with a gun? Let me stop laughing about that for a minute......I’ll get back to you


4 posted on 10/17/2013 8:48:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Secession is legal, if the consent of the other states is gained and expressed through amendment or through Congress.

Absent that it is not secession but rather insurrection, and I have no doubt that the mismatch between US military power and any insurrection would be greater now than in 1865.


5 posted on 10/17/2013 8:48:41 AM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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Obama would, he'd be crushing his opposition.
6 posted on 10/17/2013 8:49:38 AM PDT by Farnsworth (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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If the South was to secede again, would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865?

The US government is so over-burdened with debt, size, and ideology, it is frozen in amber. Radical change would simply mean collapse.

8 posted on 10/17/2013 8:50:47 AM PDT by PGR88
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If the South was to secede again, would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865?

I honestly don't think they could even if they wanted to, in this day and age where everybody can take and send video. They first couple times a video leaked of them shelling a school and killing women and children (either by accident or intentionally) there would be a huge backlash not only in the world community by even in the "northern" states they rely on to support the war to end the hostilities and negotiate.

Not only that, but a Civil War II would look nothing like 1861 to 1865 with nice orderly lines of uniformed soldiers marching around, it would look more like the Libyan/Syrian Civil war or even the Iraqi Insurgency, where the combatants can ambush a convoy or base and then blend in with the populace.

9 posted on 10/17/2013 8:53:40 AM PDT by apillar
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-- If the South was to secede again, would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865? --

No. If that happened, Washington would use nukes against the rogue states.

10 posted on 10/17/2013 8:57:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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I see a constitutional convention which disbands the union and reforms it with a less liberal states.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 8:58:04 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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The loss of being a Superpower is no longer a great loss.

3 more years of Obama and we will no longer be a Superpower, if indeed we are still one now.

A military filled with Combat women and queers and finances cut to the bone, dependent on technology to exist.


13 posted on 10/17/2013 8:58:21 AM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Yes.


16 posted on 10/17/2013 9:00:31 AM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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But the price that Americans would pay, would be the loss of super power status.

And any credit rating. If the U.S. dissolves and repudiates the existing debt then there is little chance that the new entities will be able to borrow anywhere, even within its own borders.

17 posted on 10/17/2013 9:01:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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I wish there were a movement to seccession. I would leave this rathole of a state and join it.


18 posted on 10/17/2013 9:01:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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That means that the federal debt would be reduced to Zero.

Go back to school and attend all of those math classes you skipped.

20 posted on 10/17/2013 9:02:23 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

This is a fantasy scenario. Interesting conversation, but secession is not going to happen.


22 posted on 10/17/2013 9:03:06 AM PDT by EagleInGA
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To: ComtedeMaistre

To headline: yes


23 posted on 10/17/2013 9:04:05 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains' obama's America)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

If the union were to break up, the federal debt would not be reduced to zero as those who hold paper on US debt would still want their money and no credit would be extended to the new nations.

Their only option would be to print a worthless currency that would be subject to hyperinflation the moment it was printed.


25 posted on 10/17/2013 9:06:01 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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“: would the federal government have the stomach to wage war like it did between 1861 to 1865?”

Yes, but from where would they draw the soldiers and materials? The north no longer has the men, money, and machines it had in 1861.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 9:06:24 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Here’s the thing, there will be no CWII

If the world and investors believed that a state (or states) was potentially going to secede from the Union and the United States could actually break up, the economy and the dollar would collapse so fast that panic would ensue and city Liberals will turn on each other and burn their own cities down

There would be so much chaos that Obama or Hillary or whomever wouldn’t have the ability to stop the secession.

Though secession might be pointless after that as there will be so much bloodshed, Liberals would have thinned much of their population out. Rural Conservatives meanwhile would have just passed the popcorn and waited it out and can come back in and pick up the pieces.


31 posted on 10/17/2013 9:07:41 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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A breakup of The United States would be more complex than individual states going their own way. Urban vs rural vs suburbs, liberal regions vs conservative, etc. A large state like Texas with the resources to operate without Washington could pull it off, and could lead other like minded states with it. States where the divide between the democrat controlled cities and conservative hinterlands is greater would have a big problem going it alone.


33 posted on 10/17/2013 9:08:15 AM PDT by yawningotter
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