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Deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexico police linked to "grenade-walking" scandal
CBS ^ | October 17, 2013 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 10/17/2013 5:44:07 AM PDT by don-o

(CBS News) CBS News has learned of a shocking link between a deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexican police last week and a controversial case in the U.S. The link is one of the grenades used in the violent fight, which killed three policemen and four cartel members and was captured on video by residents in the area.

According to a Justice Department "Significant Incident Report" filed Tuesday and obtained by CBS News, evidence connects one of the grenades to Jean Baptiste Kingery, an alleged firearms trafficker U.S. officials allowed to operate for years without arresting despite significant evidence that he was moving massive amounts of grenade parts and ammunition to Mexico's ruthless drug cartels.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; fastandfurious; grenadewalking; gunwalker
There is still (a little) honest journalism out there.
1 posted on 10/17/2013 5:44:07 AM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o

WOW! See-BS actually is SEEING the BS? Is CBS falling prey to the “phony scandal”?


2 posted on 10/17/2013 5:47:05 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: don-o

U mean like Adrian Peterson? Saw a hot babe reporter giving him a sympathy hug. He didn’t even know his son.


3 posted on 10/17/2013 5:48:46 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: don-o

A random act of journalism.


4 posted on 10/17/2013 5:49:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Actually, Sharyl Attkisson has been very good on F & F as well as Benghazi. Credit where due, please.


5 posted on 10/17/2013 5:55:26 AM PDT by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: don-o

GRENADES? How to blame this on US gun laws and gun dealers?


6 posted on 10/17/2013 5:56:56 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Diogenesis
Ho Hum, same story, different copy right. And what will happen? Same story, same ending.

I wonder how barry’s raiders were going to work this into a second amendment violation. I just don't see how our current laws support the stockpiling of grenades to “right wing extremists”. Stay tuned though because these boys always make some outlandish assertions which are bought hook line and sinker by most of the loyal press and fellow travelers.

7 posted on 10/17/2013 6:01:51 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“GRENADES? How to blame this on US gun laws and gun dealers?”

Easy...

Gun Show Loophole!

Thats where I buy all of my grenades!


8 posted on 10/17/2013 6:21:07 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: Diogenesis
Quite random. Random as a stray round crossing back over the border from Reynosa. Memo to Sharyl Attkison: the story is not Mr. Kingery and his export business. It's the Oval Office, State Department, DHS, DOJ, and many key figures on both sides of the isle up on Capitol Hill. Much of what has happened in the last 12 months, indeed that last 12 hours, is becoming very clear.
9 posted on 10/17/2013 6:26:46 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: don-o

Yes, Atkisson is reporting fact, while other people in the press have succumbed to Obama worship.


10 posted on 10/17/2013 6:40:23 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: don-o

“Significant Incident Report” ...reminds me of Rainman and his “Serious Injury List”.


11 posted on 10/17/2013 6:59:52 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I am at a loss for words.

It is a Criminal Government.


12 posted on 10/17/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Syntyr

“Gun Show Loophole!

Thats where I buy all of my grenades”

Wal Mart has a special on RPG’s this week.

Buy a gross of RPG”s at regular price, get a crate of grenades for half price.

Flamethrowers will be on sale next week.

Wal Mart will be having a sale on their halftracks with quad 50’s, but I don’t know when, and you are only limited to 1 at sale price.


13 posted on 10/17/2013 7:07:59 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: don-o

How do you trace a spent grenade?


14 posted on 10/17/2013 7:16:25 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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15 posted on 10/17/2013 7:18:54 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Mouton

It won’t matter when 0 gets his super majority in 2014. The Stupid party will see the lowest turnout for door knocking, calling, and contributions in history. I can picture how the campaigns will go.
“Vote for John Boner.”
“Why?”
“Well. Because, uh, I’ll be your best friend!”


16 posted on 10/17/2013 7:39:02 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: don-o

There is little “honest journalism”. There are a handful of real journalists. Sharyl Attkisson is one of them.


17 posted on 10/17/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

>>How do you trace a spent grenade?<<

Obvious answer! Piece by tiny piece.


18 posted on 10/17/2013 8:15:32 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch
Obvious answer! Piece by tiny piece.

In one week? In a foreign jurisdiction? Knowing how things are done in Mexico it is difficult to imagine forensic techs on their hands and knees with tweezers picking up frags, and even harder to imagine the entire mess being sorted and assembled from multiple devices and then ID'd and traced in time for a summary report.

My best guess is that they recovered unused ones left at the scene.

19 posted on 10/17/2013 9:05:09 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

In the previous answer i was being a smart A but in my day all the parts were made of steel so I imagine a good magnet would gather all the pieces, then start sorting for serial number fragments. Possible to do? Maybe but not probable, IMO.


20 posted on 10/17/2013 9:26:53 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Red in Blue PA
It is a criminal government REGIME. There, better.
21 posted on 10/17/2013 9:27:50 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: IMR 4350

I gots tuh git me one o’ them halfasstracks, they’s da best fer haulin’ out hogs what U shoots in da swamps. How long of a winch cable does they got?


22 posted on 10/17/2013 10:58:42 AM PDT by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: B4Ranch; All
As I recall, Kingery’s specialty was buying inert grenade bodies, smuggling them south of the border, then activating them with a fuse, explosive filler, and plugs.

The inert grenade bodies are not serial numbered, and are often sold as gag items in the United States.

The key is activating the grenades, which is no small task. The fuse is key, as faulty fuses are as likely to kill the user as the people the user is intending to kill.

Note that three police men and *four* cartel members were reported killed by these “weapons”.

I would rather not have a “weapon” that is as likely to kill me as the person that I try to use it on...

23 posted on 10/17/2013 12:45:47 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

The fuse is just a DuPont blasting cap.


24 posted on 10/17/2013 1:06:06 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: don-o

Any news on who hacked into her computer?


25 posted on 10/17/2013 3:28:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
Any news on who hacked into her computer?

Not that I have heard.

26 posted on 10/17/2013 3:43:48 PM PDT by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: don-o

This is the NSA. We have no clue. Honest.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 3:55:01 PM PDT by matt04
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To: don-o
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28 posted on 10/17/2013 4:01:20 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: B4Ranch

A simple blasting cap will initiate immediately.

Not what you want in a hand grenade.


29 posted on 10/17/2013 4:18:41 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Syntyr

I get my grenades at “Grenades R Us”, right next to “ Toys R Us” and “Tanks for Tots”.

I thought everyone did this too.


30 posted on 10/17/2013 5:22:17 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: IMR 4350

Flamethrowers? Gee, I need a couple because my BBQ grill is broken. (Hint: See Gary Busey light up a fireplace with a flamethrower in the movie “DC Cab”. The best scene in the whole thing and Busey was at his crazy best).


31 posted on 10/17/2013 5:24:16 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: don-o

Reports of grenade purchases prompted the ATF to raid the Branch Davidians....go figure.


32 posted on 10/17/2013 6:22:47 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: ElkGroveDan
How do you trace a spent grenade?

Footprints in the butter?

33 posted on 10/17/2013 7:09:45 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: marktwain

No, it’s a staged cap. They used to be available in 20, 15, 10, 5, and 3 seconds. Then when the mining engineers learned about using one concussion blast to ricochet it off another that’s when the demand for det cord went through the roof.


34 posted on 10/17/2013 7:22:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: don-o

No doubt that the Mexican Army has hand grenades. Question is, are they manufactured in Mexico or acquired externally?

In any event they could be from Army stockpiles.


35 posted on 10/17/2013 9:48:18 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: don-o

You are right.


36 posted on 10/18/2013 12:14:09 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Travis McGee
lookie here...
37 posted on 10/18/2013 4:22:35 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: demshateGod
It won’t matter when 0 gets his super majority in 2014. The Stupid party will see the lowest turnout for door knocking, calling, and contributions in history. I can picture how the campaigns will go.
“Vote for John Boner.”
“Why?”
“Well. Because, uh, I’ll be your best friend!”

I see you grasp The Tao of Republican Orthodoxy.

38 posted on 10/20/2013 12:26:17 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Syntyr

“Gun Show Loophole!

Thats where I buy all of my grenades!”

I just ask the guy who runs the fruit stand outside the gun show for the “little pineapples”.


39 posted on 10/20/2013 12:31:39 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: OneWingedShark

Brilliant!


40 posted on 10/20/2013 8:20:59 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: SERKIT

Of course it’s phony. No Americans were hurt, only Mexicans, and it didn’t happen on TV. So who cares, unless you want a taco?/s


41 posted on 10/20/2013 11:16:47 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Hillary and Holder were in cahoots on all of this. Holder was letting guns and explosives walk to Mexico so Hillary could take the bully pulpit and demand additional gun control. The only problem is they got caught red-handed and now Hillary has clammed up completely on the issue. Manufacturing evidence consisting of dead bodies is a very ugly business and indicative of the depth to which these people will sink to move closer to their goals.


42 posted on 10/21/2013 9:15:02 AM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Syntyr
Can't speak to the 'nade issue, but do-it-yourself claymores are really easy.
43 posted on 10/24/2013 11:41:14 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier
Not that I know from personal experience, mind you! ....Just from what I've heard.
44 posted on 10/24/2013 11:42:34 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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