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'Gestapo' tactics meet senior citizens at Yellowstone
Eagle-Tribune ^ | October 8, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 10/08/2013 5:54:10 AM PDT by freeandfreezing

NEWBURYPORT — Pat Vaillancourt went on a trip last week that was intended to showcase some of America’s greatest treasures.

Instead, the Salisbury resident said she and others on her tour bus witnessed an ugly spectacle that made her embarrassed, angry and heartbroken for her country....

For many hours her tour group, which included senior citizen visitors from Japan, Australia, Canada and the United States, were locked in a Yellowstone National Park hotel under armed guard.

(Excerpt) Read more at eagletribune.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: agenda21; armedguards; barrycades; govtshutdown; nationalparks; policestate; shutdown; yellowstone
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Another example of the Park Service under President Obama's direction going out of their way to harass citizens, essentially keeping the park visitors under house arrest.

Apparently now you can't "recreate" without permission from the government.

Some of the actions of the park rangers described in the article seem like they may cross the line into illegal interference with the rights of the visitors.

1 posted on 10/08/2013 5:54:11 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
Apparently now you can't "recreate" without permission from the government.

Simply stunning. Even in the USSR, they had recreation guaranteed in their Constitution.

2 posted on 10/08/2013 5:56:12 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: freeandfreezing
How long will it be before one of these feral government thugs opens fire on a disobedient subject?
3 posted on 10/08/2013 5:57:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: freeandfreezing

It’s not just the Park Service although that’s an excellent example. The US is quickly becoming a nation ruled by fear and intimidation. It’s disgusting.


4 posted on 10/08/2013 5:57:17 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: freeandfreezing

Hey MSM want to improve your ratings. Start putting these folks on TV with interviews. Also the elderly people in Lake Mead.


5 posted on 10/08/2013 5:58:11 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: freeandfreezing

IRS Care will be in trouble if they make a Senior Citizen a martyr


6 posted on 10/08/2013 5:58:20 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: freeandfreezing

” MISTER POS, TEAR DOWN YOUR BARRYCADES !”


7 posted on 10/08/2013 5:58:56 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: freeandfreezing

The bus stopped along a road when a large herd of bison passed nearby, and seniors filed out to take photos. Almost immediately, an armed ranger came by and ordered them to get back in, saying they couldn’t “recreate.” The tour guide, who had paid a $300 fee the day before to bring the group into the park, argued that the seniors weren’t “recreating,” just taking photos.

“She responded and said, ‘Sir, you are recreating,’ and her tone became very aggressive,” Vaillancourt said.

The seniors quickly filed back onboard and the bus went to the Old Faithful Inn, the park’s premier lodge located adjacent to the park’s most famous site, Old Faithful geyser. That was as close as they could get to the famous site — barricades were erected around Old Faithful, and the seniors were locked inside the hotel, where armed rangers stayed at the door.


8 posted on 10/08/2013 5:59:54 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: saganite

> It’s not just the Park Service although that’s an excellent example. The US is quickly becoming a nation ruled by fear and intimidation. It’s disgusting.

Well there is an easy solution but someone’s not going to like it one bit.


9 posted on 10/08/2013 6:00:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: freeandfreezing

many liberals are fat stupid and ugly


10 posted on 10/08/2013 6:02:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: freeandfreezing
Armed ranger's excuse: "We were just following orders..." Seems I've heard that before somewhere...


11 posted on 10/08/2013 6:02:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: freeandfreezing

This is sickening.


12 posted on 10/08/2013 6:02:55 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: freeandfreezing

If this is how they treat people now, just wait until the “default.”


13 posted on 10/08/2013 6:04:15 AM PDT by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: freeandfreezing

Why aren’t these citizens and especially foreign visitors being interviewed by the msm? We all know the reason for that, of course.


14 posted on 10/08/2013 6:04:38 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: freeandfreezing

15 posted on 10/08/2013 6:06:02 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: jsanders2001

Disgusting...truly disgusting. Clown Prince nobama and his commie minions should be “run out of town on a rail.” The same is true here in S UT at Zion NP where you can drive through on the open state highway, but if you stop to “take pictures or recreate, you will be ticketed and fined”. Do we now live in a tyranny or what? Maybe I’ll drive through Zion today with my eyes closed. I wouldn’t want to steal any photons from the all-powerful commie government under Clown Prince nobama.


16 posted on 10/08/2013 6:06:12 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: COBOL2Java

“That was as close as they could get to the famous site — barricades were erected around Old Faithful, and the seniors were locked inside the hotel, where armed rangers stayed at the door.”

This absolutely can not be true, is it satire? Seniors were locked inside the hotel, armed rangers stayed at the door? Please, tell me this is not true, because if it is, there is much more going on than a government shutdown, and something has to be done.


17 posted on 10/08/2013 6:06:38 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: jsanders2001

“. Also the elderly people in Lake Mead.”

Why do you want to put elderly people in Lake Mead?
Oh the Hugh manatee!


18 posted on 10/08/2013 6:06:39 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: COBOL2Java

The question to me is - where are the enterprising young journalists that want to make a name for themselves by exposing these Nazi tactics by our government? This teeny weeny newspaper in Lawrence MA is barely open. Where are the folks with a real megaphone in exposing this obviously absurd government action ?


19 posted on 10/08/2013 6:07:01 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: freeandfreezing
This is unreal!!.....Gestapo redux!

I've been to Yellowstone....how in the world can you barricade Old Faithful??!!!!

I've took that 2-1/2 hour exit and it's long and older people need to stop and move around.

I'm very concerned why the park rangers should be so aggressive.

This is the most spiteful, mean spirited administration we've ever known.

20 posted on 10/08/2013 6:07:12 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: freeandfreezing

I guess this answers the question that many have asked: Will the police follow orders to confiscate guns or shoot their owners when it comes to that.

Looks like following orders (even if they are plainly illegal) comes natural to a lot of people.


21 posted on 10/08/2013 6:07:17 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: freeandfreezing

You sheep get back on the bus.....Now we know what all that ammo and AR’s that the government bought is for.Killing us..
And we all sit back and watch like good little sheep.
Cattle cars are coming...


22 posted on 10/08/2013 6:07:59 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"How long will it be before one of these feral government thugs opens fire on a disobedient subject?"

Are you kidding me? Remember these?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

23 posted on 10/08/2013 6:08:35 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: freeandfreezing

I will have a hard time offering anything but contempt to any Park Service Employee. They are playing the part of jack booted thugs and need to receive scorn and verbal insults at every opportunity!


24 posted on 10/08/2013 6:08:43 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: freeandfreezing

Time to close the sec. 8 housing.


25 posted on 10/08/2013 6:08:49 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (Obama loves the USA like OJ loved Nicole)
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To: hal ogen

Seems like these ‘rangers’ aren’t the helpful and kind servants and conservators they like to portray themselves as. Nothing but a bunch of effing Nazi Government Goons, apparently.


26 posted on 10/08/2013 6:09:34 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: major-pelham
Where are the folks with a real megaphone in exposing this obviously absurd government action

BE very thankful we live in the internet era....

..HERE is the megaphone....right here....and other like minded forums...and Facebook ......WHO NEEDS THE MSM!

27 posted on 10/08/2013 6:10:37 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: COBOL2Java

Sounds like a busload of unlawful imprisonment cases.


28 posted on 10/08/2013 6:11:02 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: freeandfreezing

The question has been asked on various other threads in the past .... would Americans (like police, military, .... rangers) take orders from the government i.e. tin pot dictator Obama and open fire on their fellow Americans? Looks like Obama has turned the NPS into his own version of the Brown Shirts. He’s ‘testing’ the waters ..... NPS/gov’t workers obeying orders to be ‘ugly’ (first step - what is next?) to their fellow citizens, no real pushback from the sheeple.


29 posted on 10/08/2013 6:11:17 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: freeandfreezing

In all of these cases, try and get the names and pictures of the brown shirts and post them to social media. The park rangers must be shunned in their communities. They are agents of the oppressor. A diplomatic protest from a foreign government would also be in order.


30 posted on 10/08/2013 6:11:36 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: MortMan

no kidding

all these people better get lawyers and file cases


31 posted on 10/08/2013 6:12:54 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Their zealotry in obeying the order to make it hurt is frightening. I’ll never look at a park ranger the same way again.


32 posted on 10/08/2013 6:13:02 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: freeandfreezing

I think this shows that the purpose of big government is to employ leftists... the bigger government gets, the more leftists are employed, ensconcing all the more the leftist’s power. Government employment is like working for a union... the government shuts down, the union sends out its goons to beat people up and break things, and everybody else shies away... damnable... how long America, how long?


33 posted on 10/08/2013 6:13:53 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: freeandfreezing
“The national parks belong to the people,” he told the Enterprise. “This isn’t right.

The parks are The King's Forest and commoners may visit at the King's sufferance.

34 posted on 10/08/2013 6:14:10 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: freeandfreezing

All rights flow from the government.

Diktat determines whether you are allowed to do anything.

Everything else is banned.


35 posted on 10/08/2013 6:15:49 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Need health care? Dial 1-800-F1UCK-YO to reach Obama's hotline)
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To: major-pelham

The government pays them better.


36 posted on 10/08/2013 6:16:23 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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— barricades were erected around Old Faithful,

Seriously? These people are sociopaths.

37 posted on 10/08/2013 6:16:42 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: 9422WMR

Lol


38 posted on 10/08/2013 6:17:15 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: saganite

I’m actually starting to wonder whether NPS police/rangers are engaging in malicious obedience in the hope of drawing attention to what they’re being ordered to do.


39 posted on 10/08/2013 6:17:30 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: freeandfreezing

“We were told to ‘make it painful’”.


40 posted on 10/08/2013 6:18:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: freeandfreezing

Almost immediately, an armed ranger came by and ordered them to get back in, saying they couldn’t “recreate.” The tour guide, who had paid a $300 fee the day before to bring the group into the park, argued that the seniors weren’t “recreating,” just taking photos.

“She responded and said, ‘Sir, you are recreating,’ and her tone became very aggressive,” Vaillancourt said.


See, this is the point where you need to start with the civil disobedience and mockery. I can’t recreate? Watch me! Start a sing a long, skip around, play frisbee.... force the thugs to try to arrest you for “recreating” and then make a public spectacle of the trial.


41 posted on 10/08/2013 6:18:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Graewoulf

42 posted on 10/08/2013 6:19:17 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: tanknetter

That may be...

No better way to get a bad law/policy repealed than to enforce it fully.


43 posted on 10/08/2013 6:19:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: freeandfreezing

We need to turn the National Parks over to the states or to private parties and abolish the Park Service.


44 posted on 10/08/2013 6:19:39 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Boogieman

Have someone video you skipping around them in circles.


45 posted on 10/08/2013 6:20:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MissMagnolia

This story really ticks me off...and I’m perpetually ticked off lately. No one I know (other than on conservative websites) even knows about all this. I got in a nasty argument with a lifelong friend over all the closures. She said I should just put up a HATE OBAMA (her caps) website and be done with it. Methinks she’s in for a rude awakening.


46 posted on 10/08/2013 6:21:29 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: freeandfreezing

Interesting how these public ‘servants’ like to push other citizens around. For forty years, Christ has been exorcised from public life, so these Federal employees truly don’t know their right hand from their left. They make perfect recruits for enforcement of Obama’s New Order.


47 posted on 10/08/2013 6:22:08 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: freeandfreezing

When you take government or state money there is always the possibility of this happening. However, since the people own the government and state this shouldn’t happen.

The Dean of my high school for 33 years never took a penny from government. They pulled and pushed her so many times, even tried to get to her through her students; but no dice. She never did. I think that was one of the most important lessons in life I ever learned.


48 posted on 10/08/2013 6:22:16 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tanknetter

Some may think it is over blown, but myself. I think anyone that pickets or protests these actions should make flags, banners etc that Call it what it is...

Nazi Tactics

Gestapo style Intimidation

See how the Spite House likes seeing that distinction.


49 posted on 10/08/2013 6:23:07 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: COBOL2Java

They should have knocked the rangerette on her fascist ass,
armed or not.


50 posted on 10/08/2013 6:23:15 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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