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It’s the Law, Yes, and Most Americans Oppose It
The National Review ^ | September 30, 2013 | Jeffrey H. Anderson

Posted on 10/01/2013 12:16:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Today, more than three and a half years after the Democrats passed Obamacare into law, the overhaul’s exchanges — its East German–like government marketplaces — will finally, sort of, open for business. The Democrats fully expect their fellow Americans to be so excited about buying government-approved insurance through these government-run exchanges that they’re choosing to shut down the government rather than delay the individual mandate for a year. Better to shut down the government, it would seem, than let Americans freely decide — even for a year — whether or not to buy Obamacare-based insurance.

Alas, the individual mandate’s penalties will be low enough, and the cost of insurance under Obamacare will be high enough, that most people — especially younger, healthier people — will likely decide that the Obamacare fine beats the Obamacare product. But the Democrats need to get as many people to buy Obamacare-based insurance as possible, and they know that the individual mandate will often be the key to making — or coercing — the sale. So funding for the rest of the federal government can wait. Such is the strange state of play as we enter the last quarter of 2013, and hence the first quarter of the new fiscal year.

Perhaps even stranger, yet not altogether surprising, is the Democrats’ new favorite line of argument about Obamacare — namely, that it’s the law and therefore not only Republicans but all Americans should just deal with that. The clear implication is that the American people are powerless to act, through their elected representatives, to repeal laws they don’t like. This, of course, is ridiculous....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; iwillnotcomply; obamacare; polls
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1 posted on 10/01/2013 12:16:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another Democrat “law”... like slavery or jim crow.


2 posted on 10/01/2013 12:27:07 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’ve been ignoring immigration laws for decades.


3 posted on 10/01/2013 12:33:31 AM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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4 posted on 10/01/2013 12:41:42 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Bullish
.....while we are on the subject of laws (and things linked to Obamas destructive trail), why is Obama not in jail for forgery of critical documents intended to defraud the citizens of the USA?

I suppose only certain laws really matter, only the destructive and invasive inconstitutional laws seem to matter

5 posted on 10/01/2013 12:45:23 AM PDT by KTM rider
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never mind that DOMA was the law of the land and the demon crats ignored it and refused to defend it in court. Invalidated by default as no one showed up to defend it in court.

Some laws are more equal than other laws and enforced depending on their feelings on how you feel about that law!


6 posted on 10/01/2013 1:19:59 AM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DOMA was law.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 1:28:59 AM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve noticed the Rats acting and talking like Zerocare is a constitutional amendment. They need fixing too.


8 posted on 10/01/2013 1:39:16 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Southern by Grace

This should be re-stating the obvious; but sadly the sheeple and the media need to understand this:

All laws that are passed must be fully enforced by all present and future Presidents.

However, no Congress is bound by past Congresses. They can defund or repeal.


9 posted on 10/01/2013 2:02:25 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> Alas, the individual mandate’s penalties will be low enough, and the cost of insurance under Obamacare will be high enough, that most people — especially younger, healthier people — will likely decide that the Obamacare fine beats the Obamacare product.

Of course we all know how they will “fix” this.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 2:07:13 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone on another thread pointed out to me that the BORDER FENCE is also the law...passed several years ago. But it hasn’t been funded, so the fence isn’t done.

Huh.


11 posted on 10/01/2013 2:14:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

They seem to be telling themselves that since 0 was “re-elected” (ahhh...yeah) that the American people “voted” for 0bamacare. I guess it’s not that much different than telling themselves that 0 “won” in 2012 even though there were precincts with not 1 vote cast for another candidate & that in excess of 100% of the people registered, voted.

“It’s hard to accept the truth when the lies are exactly what they wanted to hear”
(a fellow FReeper posted this as a graphic & I saved in haste, so don’t have who to credit)


12 posted on 10/01/2013 2:24:41 AM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This focus on “health care” is here because so many Americans have chronic disesases. From 65% of Americans being overweight or obese you have chronic diabetes, heart issues, etc. From the “empowered” young women on college campuses and big cities you have a cornucopia of sexually transmitted diseases. If you take a random young single woman from NYC, she’s more likely to be a petri dish of a whole host of diseases, including HIV, than a random homosexual man from NYC.

So, Americans are fat and slutty and they want someone else to pay for the health consequences of that.

But, hey just say I’m a racist/sexist/homophobe and tell yourself your extra 50 pounds isn’t much and your daughter isn’t slutting it up at college.

Yeah, I’m just a hater. Just make yourself FEEL better with that thought.

America has the government it so richly deserves.


13 posted on 10/01/2013 2:52:12 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (T. Jefferson's warning come true: THIS morning you woke up a slave to government and central bankers)
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To: MichiganConservative

One thing to remember, health insurance does not mean good health. They are two separate things.


15 posted on 10/01/2013 2:58:19 AM PDT by gattaca ("Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MaxMax

“I’ve noticed the Rats acting and talking like Zerocare is a constitutional amendment. They need fixing too.”

Agree. Americans have a history, tradition, of civil disobedience toward bad laws. A few that come to mind without bothering to research are; Boston Tea Party and subsequent American Revolution, Underground Rail Road, Womens Sufferage, Civil Rights Movement, 55mph speed limit. There’s plenty more examples but you get the idea. You might say that Americans believe that it’s not only a right but an obligation to disobey bad law.


16 posted on 10/01/2013 3:50:24 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

55 mph was the national speed limit. Democrats are idiots.


17 posted on 10/01/2013 4:38:34 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah Ocare is ‘the law’. We ought to treat it just like the dims treat border control.... ignore it


18 posted on 10/01/2013 4:46:24 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Perhaps even stranger, yet not altogether surprising, is the Democrats’ new favorite line of argument about Obamacare — namely, that it’s the law and therefore not only Republicans but all Americans should just deal with that. The clear implication is that the American people are powerless to act, through their elected representatives, to repeal laws they don’t like. This, of course, is ridiculous....

Very good point. Basically, Obama sees the legislature and the popular will to be simply an obstacle - but not a very big one - to his wishes.

As several other people here have already pointed out, any time Obama doesn't like a law, he doesn't bother to go to the legislature and the people and get it redone. He simply voids it through an executive order or ignores it and acts as if it had never happened, without going to either the legislature or the courts.

So it's no wonder that he doesn't think the legislature has the right to change or revisit a law that the people don't like. He honestly doesn't care, and while his not caring should theoretically be slapped down by the courts as unconstitutional, he just simply ignores that, too. And there are never any real consequences to him or his minions.

19 posted on 10/01/2013 4:50:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Harriet Tubbman.....

Abraham Lincoln

Both flaunted the law of the land and did not deal with it.


20 posted on 10/01/2013 4:53:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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