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1 posted on 09/28/2013 11:36:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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Obama cannot agree to this without some massive loss of face; it will effectively be an admission of the horrific disaster that his hallmark legislation turned out to be.

He will let this nation crash and burn before he admits to failure.


2 posted on 09/28/2013 11:38:39 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Sorry, not good enough.


4 posted on 09/28/2013 11:40:45 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Big O and the Old Man Reid painted themselve in the corner! Instead of negotiating, they would not listen to reason at all!

FUBO and FUHR and FUDEMS.

Lesse, did I run out of FU?


5 posted on 09/28/2013 11:43:27 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (what does it prove if we get involved in it?)
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It would be a plan if the proponents were such that promises they have ever made or make would be kept, but history has shown us this is not the case.

To delay the instantiation of Obamacare for the common man and woman not associated with an Obama Privileged Exempt Group could be beneficial IF our RINO proponents actually intended to do something like get rid of, or try to defund (again) this socialist law. However, they have no such intention. In fact, their delay actually helps Obama and the Democrats because it removes the personal tragedies and financial heartache from the 2014 Congressional Election mix completely. In other words, at the 2014 elections, it would be a law-not-yet-implemented and the subject of many many lies that could not be refuted.

Our Republican leadership is power-corrupt, and they will say or do anything to maintain that power. Do not listen to them, do not believe them, do not trust them. They only want their power and they will sell your children down that river to keep it.


6 posted on 09/28/2013 11:46:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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I would love to see one of the two scenarios.

Reid does what he did this last time...with the Rinos he strips out the health funding, and sends it back to the HOuse.

Boehner faced with a govt shutdown passes a bill to fund the govt for six months. He says we will not have the American people held hostage.

And let the damn Obamacare kick in. The people very quickly will see what the results are, and feel the pain.

or REid passes the House bill as is and sends it to the president who vetos the bill.

Then back to the House where Boehner agrees to fund the govt.

I see know benefit in letting low information voters off the hook here. They need to feel the effects of this terrible health care law.


7 posted on 09/28/2013 11:48:26 AM PDT by nikos1121 (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.” Alexander Pope (1688-1744) English poet)
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It is my belief the Obamacare Law is illegal to begin with.

It required the bribing of several senators to get it to pass. That act of voting fraud is definately illegal!

That among several other things!


9 posted on 09/28/2013 11:50:10 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (what does it prove if we get involved in it?)
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Reid can then hold a vote on cloture,
add an amendment deleting the obamacare delay,
gets 51 votes to pass the amending bill,
and send it back to the House.

Just like the senate did with the first continuing resolution.
Reid’s senate mafia can do this over and over again.

It is ugly, but it is true.


13 posted on 09/28/2013 11:54:51 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Here’s an idea, instead of delaying this monstrosity, just destroy it, throw it into a fire and burn it..of course it wont happen since libs have been wanting for centuries to be able to control who lives and who dies


14 posted on 09/28/2013 11:55:58 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Pull the bammycare back out.

March the entire House out on the steps and fire up the cameras.

Pass out full text (three sentences) copies of the fifteen second speech.

"Here is the bill to the Senate, we funded everything except the Un-Affordable No-Care Act"

"They will never see any money for that."

"Thank you."



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15 posted on 09/28/2013 12:02:53 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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What are those of us who already got kicked off our plans supposed to do for the next year? I will guarantee no one is going to be taken back on their old plans. This is not just a philosophical issue; many of us need frequent ongoing treatment.

This would be a serious mistake in many ways including letting Obama off the hook for the 2014 elections.

16 posted on 09/28/2013 12:08:53 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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Awesome. Now the Dems can sweep the midterms next year by bragging about the great Obamacare that they created for America, which the evil Republicans made us all wait another year before being able to enjoy.


22 posted on 09/28/2013 12:23:01 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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Republicans in the US House are scum if this is true, this one year delay will allow voters to not experience the pain of Obama care before the election thus aiding democrats to win.


26 posted on 09/28/2013 12:44:38 PM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come..or we need to drag them to it..)
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Re: “New House GOP bill delays health law by 1 year.”

We are so stupid.

That is EXACTLY what every Democrat wants!

Delay ObamaCare until AFTER the 2014 election.

27 posted on 09/28/2013 12:45:43 PM PDT by zeestephen
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I think I am alright with this. I was originally opposed thinking it would give the dems time enough get the bugs fixed. But if funded in October they will work on fixing the bugs anyway...it will not fall apart under its own weight. They will not let that happen

There is a good chance we can win the Senate in 2014 and hold the House. If that occurs we can then kill it dead.

28 posted on 09/28/2013 12:46:54 PM PDT by george123 (gesully)
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So how does delaying the bill help anyone but the Democrats to give them a clear shot at 2013?


36 posted on 09/28/2013 2:27:40 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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Good for them — put the ball back in the Senate’s court and see if the Republican Senators will grow a pair in the meantime.


37 posted on 09/28/2013 2:45:21 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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This is a mistake.

Half measures never get the job done.

39 posted on 09/28/2013 2:46:36 PM PDT by Pietro
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Harry Reid, D-Nev., has insisted the Senate would not pass a bill that alters the law

That is such a joke.

They've altered that bill for big business, and they've altered it for insider cronies, and they've altered it for members of congress and their cronies, but they won't "pass a bill that alters the law."

Reid and his and Obama's minions are despicable.

40 posted on 09/28/2013 2:48:26 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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This will be fun.

Reid and Obambi have already said they want a shut down, and will blame it on the House GOP (and the TEA party). The MSM is geared up for that, and so is the Senate. Up to the point where Harkin and others are hinting that “something needs to be done” about the TEA party.

Yet, the House GOP follows along the script.

The Senate holds the power, and I fully expect that to become clear soon. Or that Obama will just order healthcare bill enforced, and let the courts settle out who pays.


41 posted on 09/28/2013 2:49:09 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Yeah, put it off til the election after next.

No wonder the RINOs are going for it.

44 posted on 09/28/2013 3:11:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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