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Sen. Cruz says hes been talking with House conservatives
The Hill ^ | September 27, 2013 | Russell Berman

Posted on 09/28/2013 2:49:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Sen. Ted Cruz on Friday appeared to confirm that he plotted with House conservatives to prevent Republican leadership from shifting strategy in the government shutdown fight.

“We’ve had numerous conversations with numerous members of the House,” Cruz (R-Texas) said after the Senate approved a continuing resolution that was amended by Democrats to preserve funding for ObamaCare.

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The conversations indicate that Cruz is seeking to wield influence not only in the Senate but in the House, where the leadership can afford only 16 defections if it wants to pass legislation without relying on Democrats.

A Boehner spokesman declined to comment.

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Meanwhile: Romney warns threat to shut down government not ‘effective’

...."I think there's a better way of getting rid of ObamaCare — my own view — and that is, one, delaying it by at least a year,” Romney said. “That was Senator (Joe) Manchin's idea, the Democrats' idea.”.....

1 posted on 09/28/2013 2:49:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only an observation....but if Cruz can step across the line and generate his own ‘caucus’ in the House...then McCain and the dozen other ‘French Republicans’ can basically retire or resign.

Cruz is proving on a dozen levels the bogus nature that the Obama-crowd talked up about the President’s way to work deals and arrange compromises as he learned as a Senator. The President has no such skills. If Cruz works the House in some fashion....I’d say he just proved he’s way ahead of the crowd and ready for the Presidency already.


2 posted on 09/28/2013 3:02:34 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I imagine conservative House members sought him out as much as he was eager to work with them.

They want to win the battles.

They want to stop the destruction of the country.

They want to do what their constituents elected them to do.


3 posted on 09/28/2013 3:06:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Obama to Republicans: 'I will not negotiate'

The president used his weekly address to the American people to demand that Congress meet its two responsibilities: “pass a budget on time and pay our bills on time.” Despite Republican attempts to defund his signature healthcare reform law, the president promised that the next phase of the law will kick in on October 1 “no matter what.”

“I will work with anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about our economic future,” Obama said. “But I will not negotiate over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills it has already racked up. I don’t know how to be more clear about this: no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the United States of America just to extract ideological concessions.”.................

4 posted on 09/28/2013 3:13:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If the conservatives/Cruz are thwarted by the Republican establishment such that no significant change to ObamaCare implementation (defund or delay) it is either the end of the RHINOs or the endd of the party. Obamacare itself may take care of the democrats.


5 posted on 09/28/2013 3:22:47 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: LALALAW
Republican Leadership Needs to Watch Braveheart

............"Hollywood’s heroes, like William Wallace, resonate because deep down people want leaders who fearlessly strive for what they believe, and not noblemen who are noble in name only. The people want larger than life figures who will fight for them. And ultimately, they want leaders they can trust so they can live their lives, raise their children and enjoy their limited time on this green earth free from worry about an avaricious government. Today’s noblemen of D.C. face choices in these upcoming weeks that will stay with them for a lifetime. Obamacare will either be implemented or it will be gutted.

While some may take the Braveheart analogy as too simplistic, it will be impossible to explain the nuances of the day to someone a few years from now unable to access health care because of the Obamacare doctor shortage.

Now is when the decision is made and there will be no turning back. It is time for Republicans to choose whether they will claim their historic legacy as our nation’s freedom party, or if they will recede into the history books replaced by those who are willing to take the mantle of freedom fighter from them."

6 posted on 09/28/2013 3:40:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Would that Sarah Palin was in the House to speak up for the will of the Tea Party. We must rally to support the Tea Party in the House—Stand with Ted Cruz and Mike Lee! Let us support those who are giving their all for Freedom!


7 posted on 09/28/2013 3:56:53 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Americans should be in the streets marching to end Obamanation of Obamacare! We should be rallying to support the Tea Party not sitting back. Just wait till you feel the pain in the wallet! Its coming and all the “Blame Bush” will not work!


8 posted on 09/28/2013 3:59:41 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cruz takes the GOPe to leadership school but they won’t lead, can’t follow, and thrive on getting in the way.

Cruz is setting the standard, raising the bar far above self service, making integrity, honesty, boldness, character and sacrifice, once again the principles of leadership, he is quickly gaining the respect, confidence and loyalty from all those who wish to once again see a free republic.


9 posted on 09/28/2013 4:01:38 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

Very well stated and articulate post!


10 posted on 09/28/2013 4:04:14 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: pepsionice

Yep. If Mcshithead can have a gang so can Cruz.


11 posted on 09/28/2013 4:16:10 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cruz is doing his job.

This article reads like he is breaking some sort of rules.

Of course he is speaking to Conservatives, that is what you do when you form a coalition.

Cruz is leading—and that is something Boehner and Mitch McConnell do not know how to do.


12 posted on 09/28/2013 4:27:16 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Senate conservative Republicans HAVEN’T been working with House conservative Republicans all along, then this is a sad commentary on the conservative leadership in both houses.


13 posted on 09/28/2013 4:38:46 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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Conservatives “plot”, Liberals “solve”.


14 posted on 09/28/2013 4:41:07 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bttt


15 posted on 09/28/2013 4:43:14 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade; PoloSec; DainBramage; Venturer; Wonder Warthog

BUMP!


16 posted on 09/28/2013 4:46:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ah! We see Romney is STILL preferring to do things the Dim way! Nothing's changed with this guy.

Meanwhile, Ted continues to step over the RINO road blocks, to lead the way.

Go Cruz!!

17 posted on 09/28/2013 4:53:49 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

During his stand on the Senate floor, Sen Cruz said 1,500,000 had signed up.

This morning, just shy of 1,900,000 have now signed up.

In 2 1/2 days when the clock at the site linked below runs out, there will be 2,000,000 + signed up.

I think that will grab the attention of our soon to be gone compliant representatives and senators.

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/?gclid=COX1rM2C7rkCFQLxOgodm0wATw


18 posted on 09/28/2013 4:55:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jane Long

Cruz will run out of gas when his family is threatened, dont think it doesnt happen


19 posted on 09/28/2013 4:57:38 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (What you get when you refuse to vet)
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To: pepsionice

EXCELLENT POINT.

The RATS in the Senate along with 25 Republicans just jammed 0bamacare down our throats while exempting themselves, their families and their worthless staffers!

This aint over!


20 posted on 09/28/2013 5:00:34 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Those who say to delay it, and believe me I want it delayed if that’s all we can have, expect us to believe that the Communist Dems will agree to delay it, therefore they won’t shut down the government.

Hello?

Hate to borrow from Hillary, but to the Communist Dems, what difference does it make? As between defund permanently or delay a year, they choose NEITHER.

In order to achieve delay, the same process would need to be followed as in order to achieve defund. And a shutdown would loom when the Communist Dems refuse to delay it.

Am I missing something?

Well, maybe I’m only missing the fact that Senate craven RINOS wouldn’t stand up for a delay, either.


21 posted on 09/28/2013 5:02:53 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: rrrod

This aint over!

AMEN!

22 posted on 09/28/2013 5:03:44 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: txrangerette

Yes! The country is used to seeing Republicans fold.

The bigger the stink they make now, the more people will perk up and listen (and those who are listening and know what is going on will line up to support them).


23 posted on 09/28/2013 5:10:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Cincinatus' Wife.
Cruz on Friday appeared to confirm that he plotted with House conservatives
Partisan Media Shills ping.


24 posted on 09/28/2013 5:11:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You are correct. There is no wall of silence to prevent like minded legislators from talking and planning.

The term to describe the development of phenomenon is leadership.

No Republican has ever failed on the massive scale as Obama. His failure to implement Obamacare is the greatest Presidential failure and display of Presidential incompetence in the history of the Republic

That is to say....... again for emphasis...... The failure to roll out Obamacare in a smoothly working manner demonstrates the Presidents total imcompetence to hold the office


25 posted on 09/28/2013 5:12:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Wonder Warthog; Cincinatus' Wife

Unfortunately, until Cruz and Lee and to some erratic extent, Paul and Rubio arrived, there weren’t any true movement conservatives in the Senate.

It’s one thing to vote somewhat conservatively, it’s entirely another to function as part of a movement. There are a few good ones in the Senate and to their credit they tried to help in their ways, but they were mostly elder statesmen such as Roberts, Grassley, Inhofe and Sessions. Others were somewhat back-bencher types such as Risch of Idaho, Vitter of LA etc.

There wasn’t a movement leader among them, before Cruz, Lee and a tiny handful of others got there.

Not Toomey. certainly not Ron Johnson - who even voted for cloture, and these were thought to be the more conservative members.

I take your point that some in the Senate should have been working with their House counterparts all along. I’m just saying, the personnel to DO that simply were not in the Senate.


26 posted on 09/28/2013 5:16:44 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

A year’s delay would allow Congress some breathing room, or so they might think. They could attempt to “pivot”, and shove amnesty down our throats.


27 posted on 09/28/2013 5:19:58 AM PDT by Stalwart
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To: bert; Cincinatus' Wife

Would like to amend your point to this extent - obamacare is IMPOSSIBLE to effectively roll out and implement.

When something is impossible to do, then it’s a bit difficult to pin responsibility on someone for not being successful in doing it.

Government mandated, massively bureaucratic health insurance cannot work. In fact, those who pushed it mostly knew it couldn’t work and that was fine to them. They want to destroy the insurance industry. As soon as the insurance industry goes out of business, there is no one left but the government to provide health insurance.

Hello. Single payer, socialized medical insurance and medical care.

A Communist dream come true.

A nightmare for America and Americans.


28 posted on 09/28/2013 5:24:00 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

By taking up for Obama you commit the common conservative mistake of being nice.

Nice people finish last

To be effective one must attack and draw as much blood as possible.

I suppose though you would rather feel good about being nice than rid the country of Obama


29 posted on 09/28/2013 5:32:48 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: pepsionice

“Only an observation...”

And an extremely astute one at that. Thanks for posting it.


30 posted on 09/28/2013 5:37:17 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Stalwart; Cincinatus' Wife

Stalwart, you can’t get a year’s delay without the Dems agreeing to it, short of a government shutdown.

And the Dems no more want a delay than they want a defund. Just talking in theory about a delay is useless, is my point. Reid opposes a delay. Obama opposes a delay. Obama will delay anything he wants to delay, unilaterally like a dictator. But that’s not the same as a legislative delay across the board that he would accept.

There’s no painless way for Republicans to stand up for a delay, any more than there’s a painless way to stand up for a defund.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 5:42:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." (Glenn Beck))
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To: PoloSec
Very Good, and he is angering those who have sat around on their political ass for years collecting all of the perks and calling themselves the leadership.

GOP Leadership is anything but a leadership.

More like a conglomeration of puppets or Eunochs. Balless useless career politicians.

32 posted on 09/28/2013 5:44:29 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: LALALAW

“If the conservatives/Cruz are thwarted by the Republican establishment such that no significant change to ObamaCare implementation (defund or delay) it is either the end of the RHINOs or the end of the party.”

I think it’s the latter and it has already happened. The Senate gop publicly murdered their own political party yesterday.


33 posted on 09/28/2013 5:59:02 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One of the links at the bottom of that page is http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/323573-gop-rep-house-republicans-tired-of-being-abused-by-cruz which is talking about House R’s being all up in arms about Cruz pushing them to pass the CR in the House and then saying he would back down from the Senate fight. That article is confusing because it’s a week old but talks about Cruz’ plan to filibuster, yet Rep Duffy from Wisconsin was claiming that Cruz was waving the white flag and saying he wouldn’t fight in the Senate. Duffy was complaining that there were days they couldn’t get anything done because constituents were flooding the phone lines asking them to defund Obamacare.

But Cantor is in the House, and he’s the one who was talking about giving the Senate a symbolic vote to cover their tootsies in the Senate. Cruz did everything in his power to get the Senate morons to fight the battle there but they wouldn’t, and it wasn’t helped by those like Coburn and McCain, who publicly derided Cruz and said it’s their duty to roll over and die.

So I don’t know how the House is feeling about this. But the Alinsky tactic of demonizing Cruz and using jealousy and infighting to divide rather than unite the forces who need to fight together is alive and well in the media, and it sure seems like the R’s are being played for suckers because they’re making the tactic work.

We need to tell them to knock it off and engage in the real battle. We already tried telling the Senate R’s and they wouldn’t. Slime-balls. I sure hope the House R’s are made of better stock than that.


34 posted on 09/28/2013 5:59:35 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: ronnie raygun

“Cruz will run out of gas when his family is threatened, don’t think it doesn’t happen.”

What makes you think it already hasn’t? Some folks just aren’t all that amenable to blackmail.

Pray for him and his family.


35 posted on 09/28/2013 6:01:36 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Jane Long

“This ain’t over!”

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??!!

Nothing is over until WE say it’s over!


36 posted on 09/28/2013 6:02:50 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: ronnie raygun

Sidley Friends....... that is where the action will be


37 posted on 09/28/2013 6:07:00 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Uhh. ‘Cuse me, Mitch? He was agreeing with a GOP idea.


38 posted on 09/28/2013 6:14:34 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Republican Leadership Needs to Watch Braveheart


With all due respect Cincinatus, instead of watching a hollywood film, as good as the message was, we should ask them to remember the sacrifices our Founding Fathers made for freedom.

Bravehearts all.


39 posted on 09/28/2013 6:21:15 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: RetSignman

There are just two ways an individual citizen can effect the restoration of America.
1 Refuse to pay taxes, and risk imprisonment;
2 Voluntarily reduce income to the level at which filing a tax return is not required.

Nobody is willing to do either.


40 posted on 09/28/2013 6:30:36 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: HomeAtLast

Actually there are 3 ways.

3. Fire back


41 posted on 09/28/2013 6:45:05 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: unixfox

What do you mean, fire back? Who’s firing?


42 posted on 09/28/2013 6:59:52 AM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: pepsionice
Cruz is proving on a dozen levels the bogus nature that the Obama-crowd talked up about the President’s way to work deals and arrange compromises as he learned as a Senator.

The President is an ex-community organizer. Compromise and negotiation aren't really his MO. It's more like extortion under threat of disorder; manipulation of the legal system; and silver-tongued oratory that excites his backers and misleads those he wishes to extract concessions from.

You also have to consider Obama's street cred. "His" people don't know how little respect he commands internationally, but there's so much MSM attention paid to the budget crisis that he has to stand up and act tough. He's doing it on principle, "for them."

43 posted on 09/28/2013 7:02:15 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Venturer

“...Cruz is leading—and that is something Boehner and Mitch McConnell do not know how to do.”

OH BUT THEY ARE LEADING. They covered the sign that reads “Dead End” with a black cloth, and are leading down that road.

WHY!?

There’s no reason for it other than they are compromised individuals that have gone over to the other side. Their histories don’t seem to show they started out as Leftist infiltrators of the Republican Party, so what is it they are either afraid of, or how much is in their offshore for selling out America?


44 posted on 09/28/2013 7:30:18 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...."I think there's a better way of getting rid of ObamaCare — my own view — and that is, one, delaying it by at least a year,” Romney said. “That was Senator (Joe) Manchin's idea, the Democrats' idea.”.....

FUMR.

The best way to get rid of ZeroCare is to let it be a flaming debacle while kicking and screaming the warnings. Then win in 2014 and replace it in its entirety watching Zero veto every provision. That will elect a conservative President to finish the job.

45 posted on 09/28/2013 7:50:36 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

These RINOs need to take a tour of the Reagan ranch and get inspired. They are so yellow I could spread ‘em on my hot dogs.


46 posted on 09/28/2013 7:51:15 AM PDT by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama’s statement re closing down the government: “...no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the United States of America just to extract ideological concessions.”....

Why not? It’s been done before several times and we survived it. O’s full of rhetoric but lacking in truth.


47 posted on 09/28/2013 8:03:47 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>>>Now is when the decision is made and there will be no turning back. It is time for Republicans to choose whether they will claim their historic legacy as our nation’s freedom party, or if they will recede into the history books replaced by those who are willing to take the mantle of freedom fighter from them.”>>>

EXCELLENT, and bears repeating.


48 posted on 09/28/2013 8:08:13 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: kitkat

full faith and credit


I guess, we should all forget our credit rating was downgraded under his tyrannical administration.

Shhhhhhhhhhh


49 posted on 09/28/2013 8:29:57 AM PDT by RetSignman (Standing my ground against group think.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Asking for prayers for Cruz and his family is an EXCELLENT suggestion. I’ve already started.


50 posted on 09/28/2013 8:30:35 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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