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Hero father died in Kenyan massacre offering himself as a hostage to save lives of children
Daily Mail ^ | 28th September 2013 | Sara Malm

Posted on 09/27/2013 8:05:36 PM PDT by the scotsman

'A British man who offered himself as a hostage to save the lives of a group of children was today described by colleagues as a 'born leader'.

Mitul Shah, 38, a sales executive from London attempted to strike a deal with the terrorists, replacing children with himself, a heroic act which gave several victims vital time to escape.

The selfless father did not get through to the gunmen and was shot alongside a number of children in the Kenyan tragedy, leaving behind his wife and two-year-old daughter.

Today his employers, the cooking oil company Bidco Oil, and his work colleagues spoke of their grief at his loss.

The firm said in a statement: ‘He was a born leader and an inspiring soul loved by one and all.’

Mr Shah, who was born in April 1975 in North London, held dual British and Kenyan citizenship.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: africa; genocide; kenya; kenyamallhero; kenyamallmassacre; obamakenya; obamaland; obamaodinga; obamaspeople; odinga; somalia; terrorism; threatmatrix

1 posted on 09/27/2013 8:05:36 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Please note that this hero was a Hindu, not Muslim. Shah is a Hindu surname. This man was a Gujurati by descent.


2 posted on 09/27/2013 8:07:42 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman; Kenny Bunk

Dear Sir,
We are well aware that this fascinating multifaceted story of good, evil, heroism, sacrifice, etc. will increase readership and advertiser revenue, nevertheless, we have decided to stop covering this story. Naturally our decision is based on sound editorial policy.
Sincerely,
Every Mainstream Media Outlet This Weekend and Moving Forward Into the Week.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 8:14:23 PM PDT by golux
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To: the scotsman

The stories coming out about this make the event more and more tragic.


4 posted on 09/27/2013 8:16:49 PM PDT by berdie
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To: the scotsman

I have no interest in these tearjerker stories. They just piss me off. If just a handful of victims had been permitted by the Kenyan government to carry guns, no more than a dozen people would have been killed. That’s the real story of this mall carnage. It is the ultimate lesson of the price of gun control.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 8:19:36 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: the scotsman

had they already been beaten raped and “converted”?


6 posted on 09/27/2013 8:23:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: the scotsman

Actually, to be sure, both Hindus and Muslims have the surname Shah. This is one of those cases where it is difficult to tell simply by his name what religion he is. In any event, this is one of those cases where I don’t think his religion or ethnicity truly matters, unless someone is a special interest “activist” group that wants to exploit his heroics for his or her own ulterior motives.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 8:27:05 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: the scotsman

He could only fervently appeal to the better natures of the terrorists. He was unarmed. Like the heroic teacher who died in the closet while trying to cover her students, wouldn’t it be even more heroic to die (or survive) while killing or trying to kill as many terrorists as possible, preferably with your own concealed weapon?


8 posted on 09/27/2013 8:51:30 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: the scotsman

I am starting to think that hanging terrorists is too good for them. We should treat them like the demonic witches they are and burn them at the stake.

...On a different tangent. I had a debate with a liberal this week on gun control. He was telling me that more guns were not the answer, “Just look at all the guns at the Navy Yard and it did nothing the stop the massacre”. First, I disabused of him of the notion that there are a lot of guns on a military base (only a relative few have access to guns and ammo. It is basically a gun-free zone). Then, I told him the Navy Yard and the Kenya Mall attack are perfect examples of why ordinary citizens should be allowed to be armed. He replied that he did not think that the average military or civilian person had enough expertise to be armed...They would create more problems. Only qualified police should carry weapons in public. I replied when seconds count, the police are minutes away. I also told him that if a service member could not be trusted with a gun said service member should get a new profession. The points I made did not resonate with him. I am sure he would feel quite different if he were ever put in that situation. I sincerely hope he never has to find out.


9 posted on 09/27/2013 8:51:51 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 3Fingas
I sincerely hope he never has to find out.

Why?

It's my hope that all these dimbulbs have a chance to find out just how twisted their worldview is. And that's a very sincere hope.

Experience is the best teacher, and these people have NONE.

10 posted on 09/27/2013 9:05:26 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

JV,

I don’t think you really mean that. He’s not evil. He is just indoctrinated. I don’t wish hurt on anyone even if they are acting terminally stupid. It’s easy to get frustrated with people who are anti-gun, especially if they try to push their gun phobia on you with gun control laws.

Terrorists shooting innocents is a different matter.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 9:17:51 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: freedom462

Mitul is a Hindu name, not Muslim.

Shah is a Hindu surname and also similarly spelt, a Persian (not Muslim) title.

Mitul Shah is Hindu.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 9:27:06 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: freedom462

Other reports have confirmed that he is Hindu.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 10:04:10 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Fair enough, he certainly showed the fighting spirit that Hindus have become very well known for in the past 1000 years, for example the Rajputs, the Marathas and the Gurkhas.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 10:07:05 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: 3Fingas

I don’t want anyone shot! I want them to be brought into the real world so that these sorts of bad outcomes can be avoided.

That requires these individuals to gain experience. These folks are not necessarily stupid or evil; they are merely terminally sheltered - they are childlike; naive and foolish.

A child learns that hot things are dangerous by touching them. Third party explanations don’t carry weight.

When you wind up with a majority population of inexperienced, foolish people, who knows - they might elect one of their own as President - and then wouldn’t we be in a fix!


15 posted on 09/27/2013 10:36:08 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: CitizenUSA
wouldn’t it be even more heroic to die (or survive) while killing or trying to kill as many terrorists as possible

It is not possible for it to be more heroic. If you're lucky, or a good shot, it might be more effective.

"Greater love hath no man, than he who gives his life for his friends."

16 posted on 09/28/2013 12:32:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: James C. Bennett

Mitul Shah is Hindu. The majority of people with this surname are Hindu, but there are a great many Muslims, including famous ones, who also carry it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_(surname)

Watched an Indian movie where an Indian Muslim man marries a Hindu woman in America. Their little business is destroyed after 9/11 because the bigoted Americans refuse to do business with a Muslim anymore.

How do they know they’re Muslim? The family surname is Khan. As if most Americans would know that Khan is a Muslim surname.


17 posted on 09/28/2013 12:39:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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Islam is a war plan.


18 posted on 09/28/2013 12:58:18 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 3Fingas
9 posted on 9/27/2013 10:51:51 PM by 3Fingas: “He was telling me that more guns were not the answer, ‘Just look at all the guns at the Navy Yard and it did nothing the stop the massacre.’ First, I disabused of him of the notion that there are a lot of guns on a military base (only a relative few have access to guns and ammo. It is basically a gun-free zone). ... He replied that he did not think that the average military or civilian person had enough expertise to be armed... I also told him that if a service member could not be trusted with a gun said service member should get a new profession. The points I made did not resonate with him.”

It sure looks like consistency is not his forte.

So he thinks there are “lots of guns” on a military installation but “the average military or civilian person (does not have) enough expertise to be armed”?

Some liberals are consistently wrong. They know what they believe and have worked out their beliefs to their logical conclusions.

I can respect that. Honesty and integrity are to be encouraged, not in the least because somebody who honestly is seeking the truth can be reached with the truth. The best conservatives are former liberals who have seen the light and realized their errors.

But inconsistency such as what you are quoting here indicates that the person with whom you were talking either doesn't know what he is talking about (likely) or is letting his gun phobia blind him to facts.

19 posted on 09/28/2013 3:43:21 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: the scotsman

Thanks for sharing. I think he was a hero despite what others on this forum might think. The good really do die young.


20 posted on 09/28/2013 4:40:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Hindu version of the name is shortened from a longer Sanskrit word.

That said, Bollywood is disproportionately Muslim, and this is what my indian friends tell me.


21 posted on 09/28/2013 4:59:30 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

thanks the scotsman.

Kenyan Mall Massacre: President Barack Obama owes world explanation about why he supports al-Qaeda
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3070118/posts


22 posted on 09/28/2013 5:15:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: darrellmaurina

The person in question is a smart guy but is typical of many leftists. He bashes fox news as biased and goes on about how MSNBC programming is much better. Anybody who is not blinded by propaganda will tell you that MSNBC is at least a biased as Fox News and truth be told is more so. Basically, the guy is very smart about computers but has taken the lazy way to learn about politics, cliff-notes from the leftists at MSNBC and regurgitating pap from his college days. He also suffers from a superiority complex that which afflicts many liberals. I have to work with him on a semi-regular basis, so I usually try to keep our conversations related to the task at hand or on inconsequential pop culture or sports.


23 posted on 09/28/2013 6:02:07 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 3Fingas

“A man’s morality will dictate his theology”. It will also influence his politics and his ability to accept certain glaring facts.


24 posted on 09/28/2013 7:46:03 AM PDT by Gritty (We are quickly running out of 'boxes'...)
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To: montag813

This is really a story of the fact that our lives do not only consist of getting all we can from this world but our lives consist of getting to the next world and meeting our Creator face to face. God seems to be taking all the good ones out of our world so what’s left will only be the ones who want to settle things by killing others. Too bad, man was really created for so much more.


25 posted on 09/28/2013 1:05:07 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: SunkenCiv; golux; IChing; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...
The President's history with Muslim violence in Kenya precludes him (a) helping, (b) seeing the situation through a western christian perspective.

In 2006, then-Senator Obama campaigned for, and raised funds for Raila Odinga. Odinga is today Prime Minister of Kenya solely as the result of Obama's machinations after Odinga lost the election for President. Our Resident and the butcher Odinga are linked by blood and faith.

To recap, after Obama (and The Dick Morris) campaigned extensively in Kenya for Odinga, he lost the internationally monitored election by a fairly wide margin. Whereupon Odinga led a violent insurrection that included the internationally reported (except here) massacre of some 2500-3000 Christians. So many Christian farmers were forced to flee their lands that as a result, Kenya was plunged into famine!

Odinga's Campaign platform as heartily endorsed on the stump by Cousin Obama: Sharia Law within Muslim Provinces, Expulsion of Missionaries, Expulsion of Christians from the Kenya Government, Confiscation of Christian-owned land within Muslim Provinces, Collective Farming, etc. (Odinga is an East-Gernman educated communist, as are several Obama and Odinga relatives now active in Kenya, using Jihad to further marxism.)

If anyone still gives a rat's patoot about the law, what Obama did in Kenya was absolutely illegal; an activity specifically proscribed to members of Congress.

President Barack Obama owes the world an explanation about why he supports al-Qaeda

Sunk, don't hold your breath on that.

26 posted on 09/30/2013 8:56:30 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: IChing
Please reiterate your Social Media Campaign to now ... after long last ... to bring this story to the attention of the thinking American Public.

During the campaign of '08, The McCain Team refused to touch the story, as did all of the "Right Wing Talk Radio Hosts," except G. Gordon Liddy.

Of course, the MSM ignored it.

27 posted on 09/30/2013 9:00:22 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: LucyT; lowbridge; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn

Spread the word, PLEASE, ping


28 posted on 09/30/2013 9:01:42 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: Kenny Bunk; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...
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From # 26 and # 27:

The _resident's history with muslim violence in Kenya precludes him
(a) helping,
(b) seeing the situation through a western christian perspective.

In 2006, then-Senator 0bama campaigned for, and raised funds for Raila Odinga.
Odinga is today Prime Minister of Kenya solely as the result of 0bama's machinations after Odinga lost the election for President.
Our _resident and the butcher Odinga are linked by blood and faith.

To recap, after 0bama (and The Dick Morris) campaigned extensively in Kenya for Odinga, he lost the internationally monitored election by a fairly wide margin.

Whereupon Odinga led a violent insurrection that included the internationally reported (except here) massacre of some 2500-3000 Christians. So many Christian farmers were forced to flee their lands that as a result, Kenya was plunged into famine!

Odinga's Campaign platform as heartily endorsed on the stump by Cousin 0bama:
Sharia Law within Muslim Provinces,
Expulsion of Missionaries,
Expulsion of Christians from the Kenya Government,
Confiscation of Christian-owned land within Muslim Provinces,
Collective Farming, etc.
(Odinga is an East-Gernman educated communist, as are several 0bama and Odinga relatives now active in Kenya, using Jihad to further marxism.)

Please reiterate your Social Media Campaign to now ... after long last ... to bring this story to the attention of the thinking American Public.
During the campaign of '08, The McCain Team refused to touch the story, ... as did all of the "Right Wing Talk Radio Hosts," except G. Gordon Liddy.

Of course, the MSM ignored it.

If anyone still gives a rat's patoot about the law, what 0bama did in Kenya was absolutely illegal; an activity specifically proscribed to members of Congress.

(The) _resident Barack 0bama owes the world an explanation about why he supports al-Qaeda.

Thanks, Kenny Bunk.

29 posted on 09/30/2013 9:58:12 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: the scotsman

Here’s hoping those children fully understand and appreciate what he did. Here’s to them growing up to lead productive lives and not turn out to be the same as the monsters.


30 posted on 09/30/2013 10:50:44 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: LucyT
Odinga is an East-Gernman educated communist, as are several 0bama and Odinga relatives now active in Kenya, using Jihad to further marxism.

So it's all falling into place. . Wake Up America!


31 posted on 09/30/2013 11:26:52 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: ScaniaBoy; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; ...
Sorry for any double pings. It happens.

During every tragedy, we see miracles even amidst the horror. An angel appears, maybe more than one, and we call them heroes, but we know where they came from even if we don't understand how such horrors happen or why. There are reasons beyond our knowledge and we pray for the souls who had to endure such agony.
I, at least, also pray that the people who allowed this, who incited this, who supported such evil, endure the agonies of their victims a hundredfold for the rest of time. And that includes the biped who has occupied OUR house and all of his mnions who walk around in the blood of innocents today.

This is a Threat Matrix list documenting threats within and without. Anyone wanting on or off please advise.


32 posted on 09/30/2013 1:12:58 PM PDT by MestaMachine (--0)
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To: MestaMachine

https://twitter.com/mitulbidco
His twitter page.
Last Tweet:

20 Sep
Wondering on what to do today, come for #Superchefjunior Westgate rooftop from 11am and Have fun with the Kids as they battle it out.

(sniff, sniff)


33 posted on 09/30/2013 1:22:50 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Sorry, it was a retweet...
I don’t twitter. Can you tell?


34 posted on 09/30/2013 1:24:22 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LucyT

Thanks for posting the truth about Obamas 2006 escapade in Kenya. He broke the law doing it.


35 posted on 09/30/2013 5:36:39 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: LucyT

Thanks LucyT.


36 posted on 10/01/2013 4:49:54 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MestaMachine

yes, there are Angels traveling among us. I believe, I believe.


37 posted on 10/01/2013 4:53:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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