Posted on 09/21/2013 10:14:52 AM PDT by rhema
The only thing I can think of with his taxes angle is that he’s expressing the earthly reason why the Romans wanted to kill Jesus, and it fit into God’s plan of His Son dying for our sins and for our salvation. But I always thought that Jesus was killed by the Romans because they feared Him as He was proclaiming that He was a king, and the Roman king felt threatened.
I don’t know of any scripture that supports a claim that the Romans killed Jesus over taxes. That’s what O’Reilly is claiming.
There certainly must have been many motivations involved, both worldly and spiritual, in Christ’s death. However, nowhere does it state or imply the Romans killed Jesus over taxes, and even if so, it misses the far larger and more important spiritual reason for Christ’s sacrifice, propitiation for our sins.
Well that’s where I’d need to see more details to say more about the book, but ultimately if we see Bill in person making out the Cross ministry of Christ to be less than it really was, we need to firmly correct that. Book or no book. Because God’s grace is awesome and God will not brook us treating it lightly.
To be fair, O’Reilly only claimed (on his show) the Romans killed Jesus over taxes, and the online excerpt from his upcoming book doesn’t cover that portion of history. Nevertheless, O’Reilly’s claim has no founding in scripture that I know of. It definitely does NOT fit the Biblical characterization of Pontius Pilate, the governor and supreme Roman judge over Judea at the time of Christ’s death.
” “When is MSNBC more reliable than Fox News?” The answer is when Martin Bashir has to correct Bill O’Reilly about the true reason for the death of Christ.”
O’reilly is an idiot, always was and always will be, but so is anyone that thinks the brainless blob of flesh that is Martin Bashir could correct anyone about anything.
I stopped watching this jerk quite some time ago. My wife liked to watch him but finally she realized that he is a complete blowhard. In my opinion, he is an egotistical twit, besides being a total a**hole. Have I made myself clear enough!!!
Elsiejay: “The immediate cause of Jesus’ crucifixion was the Jews, although Christians know the fundamental, existential cause, why He had to die.”
That’s my understanding—based on scripture—too. The most immediate, worldly cause was due to Jewish leaders. They likely wanted Jesus killed because He threatened their leadership, and they claimed Jesus was usurping Caesar’s authority by claiming to be King of the Jews. They did that because the Romans had no reason to execute Jesus on religious grounds. That’s not the reason why the Jews themselves wanted Christ killed.
Of course all of this misses the much more important reason for Christ’s crucification. It was done, as prophesied, as propitiation for our sins.
He is owned by the Elite. He is very selective on what he says or goes after. When the real true is exposed, BOR is in league with the liberals.
WHY?... It’s an old story.. 30 pieces of silver... and negative attention..
He may call it journalism and truth seeking but it’s Not..
It’s secular Religio-SPIN... worldly paranormal activity..
Holy Ghosting by those that do not believe in ghosts...
Agnosticism clothed in robes... Journalism Kabuki.. with bad guys and good guys.. Goth O’Reily-lore..
“...the love of money is the root of all [kinds of] evil.”
Thank you for getting the quote right. It is amazing how many people leave off the first three words.
bill o’bloviator could not stand to take the pointed criticism that he would surely endure in the Manhattan parties that he attends... and directly from the left wing liberal dim party (New Yawk) societal elites... if he even dared to to quote scripture in any way. He spurns GOD’s words to be cool and his soul will pay in eternal heat for it... unless he repents.
I love CHRIST and THE FATHER. To doubt EITHER is to hurt the ONE that made you from nothing. How can anyone do that... anyone that believes in the Trinity? I understand sinning... I am a sinner. I try not to be but sometimes my language gets rough or I let anger flash over common sense but I still endeavor to be a better man. Only those that hate GOD or do not believe in HIM could doubt HIM. There is just no other way to explain it... at least none that I can think of.
When you look at the Gospels in their historical context this makes a lot of sense. The Romans existed in that place and time outside of the ongoing relationship between the Chosen People and God (with all of its ups and downs through history), and as such they were far more likely to look upon someone like Jesus Christ in a very objective manner and react to Him the way an ordinary person would.
For example ... I cannot imagine how someone in those times could watch Christ cure a leper or make a blind man see and not be shaken to his core by what he's witnessed. And yet an awful lot of people stood there and rationalized such a remarkable turn of events away.
I like it... precise, skewering and the absolute truth!
When I read through the Gospels one of the things that really stands out to me is what seems like a complete sense of detachment by Pontius Pilate in his conversation with Christ. It's like he just got out of bed that morning and did his job like he did any other day.
They haven't failed O'Reilly. Unfortunately, he has avoided telling the truth with them in this book.
O'Blowhard has finally jumped the shark and is spreading false teachings and doctrine - and I can confidently say that not even having read his book, which I don't plan on wasting my time doing. All one needs to do is listen to what he says about it.
He is either a false prophet or an incredibly stupid one. I choose "all of the above", Alex.
murron: “But I always thought that Jesus was killed by the Romans because they feared Him as He was proclaiming that He was a king, and the Roman king felt threatened.”
Pontius Pilate was Roman governor of Judea. Pilate’s wife dreamed that Jesus was an innocent and righteous man and sent a message to Pilate to have Jesus released. If Pilate feared anything about Christ, it was fear of executing Him.
Here’s the relevant scripture:
Matthew 27:11-26
“11 Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor questioned Him, saying, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And Jesus said to him, “It is as you say.” 12 And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He did not answer. 13 Then Pilate *said to Him, “Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?” 14 And He did not answer him with regard to even a single [e]charge, so the governor was quite amazed.
15 Now at the feast the governor was accustomed to release for the [f]people any one prisoner whom they wanted. 16 At that time they were holding a notorious prisoner, called Barabbas. 17 So when the people gathered together, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release for you? Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?” 18 For he knew that because of envy they had handed Him over.
19 While he was sitting on the judgment seat, his wife sent him a message, saying, “Have nothing to do with that righteous Man; for [g]last night I suffered greatly in a dream because of Him.” 20 But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowds to ask for Barabbas and to put Jesus to death. 21 But the governor [h]said to them, “Which of the two do you want me to release for you?” And they said, “Barabbas.” 22 Pilate *said to them, “Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?” They all *said, “[i]Crucify Him!” 23 And he said, “Why, what evil has He done?” But they kept shouting all the more, saying, “[j]Crucify Him!”
24 When Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this Man’s blood; see to that yourselves.” 25 And all the people said, “His blood shall be on us and on our children!” 26 Then he released Barabbas [k]for them; but after having Jesus scourged, he handed Him over to be crucified.”
Christ represented zero threat to Pilate’s secular power or authority.
>>How can a Catholic not understand Jesus’ death.<<
Very simple and in two words - Jesuit taught.
I am looking forward to having a glorified body and a sinless mind.
Luke 23.2 has Pilate being told that Jesus tried to prevent the payment of taxes to Caesar.
Bill Eeee-go-reilly writes books the same way he “drives” himself to work on the Long Island Expressway. One of the biggest frauds ever. He’s nothing more than a glorified Entertainment Tonight “Beyonce” reporter.
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