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Sequester may force USAF to retire entire fleets of aircraft
Flight International ^ | 09/18/2013 | DAVE MAJUMDAR

Posted on 09/18/2013 3:04:39 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Neidermeyer

I am glad I wasn’t the only one thinking SALE. A10s work for me and I must have a supersonic jet or two plus a couple of choppers. Do we get a discount since we already paid for them through tax dollars?


21 posted on 09/18/2013 4:29:11 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Turn the A-10s over to the Army. They are the ones that need them anyway.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 4:36:50 AM PDT by MCF
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To: Doogle; sukhoi-30mki; shibumi; Hardraade

0bama’s Secret $8 Billion Bribe To The Muslim Brotherhood

July 18, 2013 by Kris Zane

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-secret-8-billion-bribe-to-the-muslim-brotherhood/


23 posted on 09/18/2013 4:41:51 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Pump money into naval air. They are the first line of defense. The Air Force is obsolete. So is the Army for that matter. The Marines should be the size of the Army and vice versa. Sorry Army/AF types but that is the way I see it.


24 posted on 09/18/2013 4:48:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"The US Air Force will likely have to cut entire fleets of aircraft to comply with the Congressional sequestration law"

Congressional sequestration law??? It's the OBAMA sequestration law. EVERYONE going forward, particularly Republican politicians, needs to make sure that the word "sequestration" is always preceded by the word "Obama".

25 posted on 09/18/2013 4:53:15 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: saganite

My immediate thought, too. The USAF leadership couldn’t be more transparent if they were made of Plexiglass.


26 posted on 09/18/2013 4:56:58 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Reminds me of a bumper sticker:


27 posted on 09/18/2013 5:01:29 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Want to really save money, USAF? Close down the 89th Airlift Wing at Andrews AFB. The 89th and its subordinate units provide transportation for all the top government big shots including POTUS. If not a complete close down then eliminate 75% 0f the aircraft including: 1) VC-25A “AF One” B747-200B (2 assigned); 2) C-20B/H Gulfstream III/IV (7 assigned); 3) C-32A B757-200 (6 assigned); 4) C-37A Gulfstream V (4 assigned); 5) C-40B B737-700 (2 assigned).
28 posted on 09/18/2013 5:09:31 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: shibumi
bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears bears (repeating)

I don’t suppose they’d consider defunding Al Qaeda instead?

29 posted on 09/18/2013 5:22:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Henceforth, the Office of the President shall be known as IMPOTUS)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The “Padlock the Statue of Liberty” Strategy


30 posted on 09/18/2013 5:22:47 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The US can afford to arm AlQuaida but not arm itself? mygosh


31 posted on 09/18/2013 5:25:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Exactly what percentage cut was made from the DOD??

Originally it was said to be 5%, but that must not be!


32 posted on 09/18/2013 5:28:07 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

hussein is pleased his plan is working so well and so quickly.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 5:29:15 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: kearnyirish2

“..I don’t think Americans will have an appetite for war for some time..”

our Islamist enemies have been planning for years to bring the battle to the streets of the USA. If they succeed American taste buds may have a dramatic change.


34 posted on 09/18/2013 5:33:29 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: central_va
sorta like the IDF..no service divisions/
interservice bickering..one service.

35 posted on 09/18/2013 6:02:54 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Hey. I've got an idea. lets spend multiple billions more on food stamps. That will solve the problem. After all, our strength is in our diversity, not our military might!
36 posted on 09/18/2013 6:34:25 AM PDT by Gritty (Nobody wants to hear about American exceptionalism when the issue is American ineffectualism-MSteyn)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Not only the A10 is questioned. Also the KC-10, the F-15C and CSAR helos!

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20130916/NEWS/309160005


37 posted on 09/18/2013 7:04:41 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: Gen.Blather
"If you don’t fly an aircraft something like every 90 days you lose its airworthiness certificate."

No, it becomes a hangar queen and there are numerous ops checks and inspections to perform, but it doesn't lose it's "airworthiness certificate".

" Once that happens you have to box the aircraft up, send it to the desert, it’s then rebuilt, flown, recertified and returned to service.

No, the maintenance crews or CLSS teams from the specific depot facility will come in and perform all necessary maintenance, inspections and ops checks in order to return the aircraft to flying status. In addition, a FCF (functional check flight) will be conducted by a specially qualified pilot to ensure that all systems are operating correctly.

"When Clinton was in office, he spent the spares money on non-military missions. Therefore they had insufficient engines, radios, radars, etc."

This has happened for as long as I could remember. Even during the 80s with Reagan we still had "Cann Birds". Nothing really new under the sun.

38 posted on 09/18/2013 7:13:36 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This article, IMHO, is ACC’s (aka the “Fighter Mafia”) attempting to keep all of their aircraft at the expense of the Republic’s security.

The General Mike Hostage, ACC/CC, failed to mention the last two, or is it three now?, Joint Operating Environment (JOEs) studies. These are unclassified studies signed off by all services that address security issues covering decades. In 2008, the JOE made a major shift in defense orientation when it stated that irregular warfare (aka terrorism, Iraq and Afghanistan) would be the predominate threat facing the US through 2025 because it was the only form of conflict that nations/non-nations who opposed the US could engage in and survive.

That report, again signed off by all the services, not just a major service component, meant that the majority of ACC’s aircraft are inappropriate for the threats facing us for the next 15 plus years. What good is a Mach-1 plus stealthy fighter with limited air-to-ground munitions loads in irregular warfare? Check the impact of the Mach-1 plus fighters with limited air-to-ground munitions loads in Vietnam as documented by the GAO and AF Historian reports.

As for the MC-12W Liberty Aircraft; it is the primary method of locating ground irregular warfare fighters. Without it ACC would have to operate more expensive AWACS and JSTARS aircraft to collect some of the same targeting data required by the F-35 to be effective. Its a “kill chain” issue.

IMHO, General Hostage’s remarks are nothing less than another attempt by ACC to absorb Special Operations and spend its Congressionally controlled monies on ACC projects. I saw it first in the mid 1970s and again in 1995. That year I had documentary proof in the form of an ACC internal briefing recommending that AFSOC become a numbered AF under ACC control. The notes page for the first briefing slide cautioned staff members NOT to discuss the briefing with AFSOC or SOF personnel at any level. Things got interesting when the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict forwarded the briefing with notes to me and others for comment and review.


39 posted on 09/18/2013 7:39:46 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: kearnyirish2

It is a question of models not of secular powers. The Swiss one aint bad, the US constitution is best. Fail is fail, small or big. Abandoning custodies and responsabilifies to this or that makes absolutely no difference in cost, it is all the same retarded consciousness.


40 posted on 09/18/2013 8:19:45 AM PDT by lavaroise
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