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Syrian Warplanes Test British Air Defenses in Cyprus
inn ^ | 9/8/13 | Elad Benari

Posted on 09/08/2013 5:30:02 PM PDT by Nachum

RAF Typhoon fighters won a mid-air showdown with two Syrian warplanes heading towards Britain’s main base in Cyprus, the Sunday People reports.

The dramatic confrontation came after President Bashar Al-Assad’s air chiefs sent two Russian-made Sukhoi Su-24s to probe British air defenses, the report said.

The Syrian bombers refused to respond to repeated attempts by the control tower at the UK’s Akrotiri air base to contact them.

RAF pilots flying the advanced combat jet were scrambled before the Sukhois could enter our 14-mile air exclusion zone.

The Typhoons – which can scream from runway standstill to seven miles high in 90 seconds – soared into the sky to make visual contact with the Syrian pilots, reported the Sunday People, which added that the moment the Syrians spotted the British planes on their radar they high-tailed for home.

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Things are getting hot.
1 posted on 09/08/2013 5:30:02 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

This is such a hateful nightmare. (BTW did you miss putting all the names in the To box or just didn’t do it yet?)

I’m in a sort of constant background (or even foreground) nervousness about this.


2 posted on 09/08/2013 5:32:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Nachum.


3 posted on 09/08/2013 5:34:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Nachum

99 red balloons


4 posted on 09/08/2013 5:36:17 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Jeff Head; Squantos; FreedomPoster; Stonewall Jackson

A new development.


5 posted on 09/08/2013 5:37:35 PM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: Nachum

Things are getting hot.


Syrian fighter jets would last about 20 seconds in a fight with the Typhoons, assuming the pilots were Russian “Mercenaries”.

Les than 20 seconds if the pilots are Syrian.


6 posted on 09/08/2013 5:37:43 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Su-24s likely wouldn’t engage the Typhoons. It is more likely that this was a probe to determine the response of the British. The Su-24 is an attack/strike aircraft similar to the F-111. The Su-24 can carry anti-ship missiles, though.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 5:41:50 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nachum

Bump


8 posted on 09/08/2013 5:47:42 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: little jeremiah

There is no “to” box in the original post. So people making an OP, and pinging a ping list, do the ping list in post 2 (or 3 or 4 if people are quick onto the thread).


9 posted on 09/08/2013 5:50:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Nachum
The Typhoons – which can scream from runway standstill to seven miles high in 90 seconds

Not bloody likely mate. They are fast but not that fast. However, point taken. The Syrians beat feet rather that getting shot up then down.

10 posted on 09/08/2013 5:53:06 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Army Air Corps

It was a rather Russian thing to do.


11 posted on 09/08/2013 5:55:08 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Army Air Corps
Agreed, and it speaks volumes about the current state of affairs that the Syrians are actually daring to give it a go.

Must have been an interesting ride for the Su-24 aircrews.

12 posted on 09/08/2013 5:57:10 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Nachum

It makes me sick to think that all it took was an illiterate community organizer to bring us all to the brink of WW3 If he is trying to have his Bay of Pigs moment he had better wipe the white stripe off his back and be prepared to not only protect this country, but Israel as well. Sadly, since he is such a coward, we just might be in for a ton of hell on earth.

I see boots on the ground in our near future thanks to the jackass and his pathetic admin.


13 posted on 09/08/2013 6:01:36 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: FreedomPoster

You’d think I’d remember that since I’ve been pinging one more more lists since 2003.

I’ll slink away in shame now...


14 posted on 09/08/2013 6:02:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mardi59

I see boots on the ground in our near future thanks to the jackass and his pathetic admin.


And the entire military world knows he is a loose cannon.. with a broken wheel..


15 posted on 09/08/2013 6:07:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

And the entire military world knows he is a loose cannon.. with a broken wheel..

********

He’s a sociopath and extremely delusional. He cannot take criticism and anyone that expresses disagreement with the dictator had better be careful. He knows we know he’s a failure and now he is on a dangerous bent to prove himself. This country and our military will pay the price for his arrogance and ignorance.


16 posted on 09/08/2013 6:17:21 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Army Air Corps

The Su-24 can carry some pretty significant anti ship weapons. Not so dismissive of a probe anymore.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 6:18:08 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Don Corleone
Link
The Typhoons service ceiling is listed at 65,000 feet with a rate-of-climb equal to 62,000 feet per minute.
Apparently.
18 posted on 09/08/2013 6:21:31 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: Army Air Corps

They may be trying to determine how quickly the British respond, get some insight into intercept methods, maybe to pick up possible comm frequencies. Either preparing for a wider war in the Med., or at least trying to show Obama that they are ready for one.


19 posted on 09/08/2013 6:23:07 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: Army Air Corps

” The Su-24 can carry anti-ship missiles, though.”

Looking for a blind spot in the fleet defenses. I read in a Russian article will any missile launch will likely come from the opposite side of Cyprus.


20 posted on 09/08/2013 6:24:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Nachum

Why test British defenses? Didn’t they vote “no” to war with Syria?


21 posted on 09/08/2013 6:24:39 PM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: Nachum

We’re those typhonies part of the 2 active squadrons the brits are currently flying?


22 posted on 09/08/2013 6:28:56 PM PDT by kneehurts
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To: virgil

“It was a rather Russian thing to do.”

Quite correct....
With all of the bluster from Obama, the Russians are probably telling them to use the assets, and don’t get them taken out on the ground, like everyone else has done against us.

And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was directed from Armavir.


23 posted on 09/08/2013 6:29:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Army Air Corps

The administration’s working assumption seems to be that the Syrians can’t possibly strike back. Iran purchased 12 Kh-55 Kent cruise missiles from Ukraine in about 2001. The Iranian Meshkat cruise missile is rumored to be a reverse engineered Kent. If this rumor is correct and Iran were to provide the Meshkat to their ally Syria, assuming the missile is any good, it could make life exciting for the 6th Fleet and anyone else in the Eastern Med.


24 posted on 09/08/2013 6:31:02 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Nachum
RAF Typhoon fighters won a mid-air showdown with two Syrian warplanes…

They did not win anything. The Syrian pilots did exactly what they were suppose to do. They were only testing the RAF response. It was not a actual attempt at bombing Cyprus.

25 posted on 09/08/2013 6:32:45 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: mardi59

“...arrogance and ignorance...”

Two of three ingredients needed to make a perfect “stupid” martini. Add ice, gently stir, toss in an olive and you’ve got the perfect Stupid Cocktail.

There is nothing more dangerous in the world than arrogance and ignorance together. Obama has both in spades.


26 posted on 09/08/2013 6:33:10 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: tcrlaf

The soviets did this stuff a lot during the cold war. It’s recon, but also has a psychological effect. Curious that they directed it towards Cyprus. Maybe Syria (Russia) doesn’t quite believe the Brits are sitting this one out completely.


27 posted on 09/08/2013 6:44:12 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

Yep...that and Putin knows how well Obumba slighted the Brits. Maybe he’s hoping they’ll back out completely once they realize this could end badly for them.


28 posted on 09/08/2013 6:55:42 PM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: gr8eman; virgil

That all adds up. Putin knows that the Brits are still allowing us access to their intelligence reports. This move may have punctuated some back-channel message to cease that activity, or risk being treated as a full combatant.


29 posted on 09/08/2013 7:11:48 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Nachum

Wasn’t too long ago that Turkey was playing chicken with Greece the same way in the same neighborhood.


30 posted on 09/08/2013 7:20:50 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check highlights every single word.)
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To: Charles Martel

It’s a not so subtle message to Cyprus too. Air attacks launched from there make Cyprus a target for attack. Obama is ready to start a general war in the middle east to help his Saudi funded MB bretheren.

There is no American interest.


31 posted on 09/08/2013 7:23:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Nachum

Anyone else have the image of a bunch of kids poking a guard dog with a stick, then screaming when it turns and snaps at them?


32 posted on 09/08/2013 7:40:57 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: MRadtke

I quite agree. This is a bit like some of the probes during the Cold War.
If memory serves, the Syrian Air Force operates the Su-24MK.


33 posted on 09/08/2013 7:47:06 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
The administration’s working assumption seems to be that the Syrians can’t possibly strike back.

A very dangerous assumption for them to make.
34 posted on 09/08/2013 7:50:55 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Don Corleone

Well, the rate of climb is quoted at 62,000 ft/minute.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 8:01:34 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Nachum

Scripture is clear there is to be a limited war which ushers in the one world leader.. it is also noticeable that the west, particularly America, are to not be an influence. Perhaps this war will escalate to the point of a limited nuclear exchange, resulting in the demise of the US. Hopefully they will limit their attack to key military targets, dc, ny, la. And leave the rest of us alone because we clearly don’t want this war as far as the fly over country is concerned.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 8:08:20 PM PDT by Deathtomarxists (hillary's cankles smiled at me)
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“Well, the rate of climb is quoted at 62,000 ft/minute.”

That’s a bit over 700 MPH- straight up. Hmmm...

37 posted on 09/08/2013 8:15:42 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: Nachum
Interesting.
38 posted on 09/08/2013 8:29:26 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Another option: Israel’s INS Hanit had an encounter with a Hezbollah C802 in ‘06. If the Hezzies have them, so do the Syrians.


39 posted on 09/08/2013 8:58:59 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: MRadtke

The three fastest climbing jets ever, the English Electric Lightning, the MiG-25 and current MiG-31 derivative, and the F-15 Eagle, could/can climb about 50,000 feet in one minute.


40 posted on 09/08/2013 9:04:21 PM PDT by SRT8 man (I recommend SRT8 for your muscle car needs)
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To: Nachum

interesting


41 posted on 09/08/2013 9:06:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Nachum

They’d get creamed in air-to-air but even a blockheaded Syrian tribal (much less a Russian) can be taught how to point an anti-ship missile in the right direction and let ‘er rip.

Not good. Not good at all. This says volumes about us, more about England, and has dire suggestions for the future.


42 posted on 09/08/2013 9:07:16 PM PDT by Me1onCollie
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To: Army Air Corps

SU-24’s are a lot like F-111’s like you said, I think they might even have an on-board toilet because of those long distance flights.


43 posted on 09/08/2013 9:07:37 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Nachum

Never mind, I was thinking of a different bird


44 posted on 09/08/2013 9:08:58 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Army Air Corps
Su-24s likely wouldn’t engage the Typhoons

Then they would get to go back to Syria, in hostilites, they wouldn't escape.

The Su-24 can carry anti-ship missiles, though.

Then the Navy CAP will kill them and give 0 the provocation he desires.

45 posted on 09/08/2013 9:18:25 PM PDT by xone
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To: Me1onCollie
can be taught how to point an anti-ship missile in the right direction and let ‘er rip.

Then Assad dies, Syria would be wise to take the Tomahawks that are likely coming and call it a day. No military response, some good photo ops at the baby milk factory, 0 is done.

46 posted on 09/08/2013 9:24:20 PM PDT by xone
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To: Don Corleone
The Typhoons – which can scream from runway standstill to seven miles high in 90 seconds

Not bloody likely mate. They are fast but not that fast. However, point taken. The Syrians beat feet rather that getting shot up then down.


The specs are saying it has a rate of climb of 62,000 feet per minute. Not sure if the human can make that climb that fast, but they say the plane can. Takeoff to vertical, I'd think they could make 36,000 feet in 90 seconds.
47 posted on 09/08/2013 9:29:46 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: xone

And the anti-aircraft missiles in Syria and the Russian warships?


48 posted on 09/08/2013 9:57:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
And the anti-aircraft missiles in Syria and the Russian warships?

I don't think Putin is a fool, AA missiles against cruise missiles (especially the latest and most expensive ones)is problematic and an unlikely successful tactic. Assad may need them for the AC coming later if dopey can make a provocation case. If I'm a Russian, defense measures would come from Syria, not my ships.

49 posted on 09/08/2013 10:07:09 PM PDT by xone
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To: Pan_Yan

Turkey reportedly launched 2 f-16’s for this incident.


50 posted on 09/08/2013 10:24:55 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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