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A Nation of Working-Class Dropouts
Taki's Magazine ^ | August 23, 2013 | Gavin McInnes

Posted on 09/02/2013 12:01:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Every time a liberal sees someone behaving badly they sigh and say, “They just need education,” but the solution to America’s problems is less education, not more. If we got over this myth that everyone needs infinite academia, we would have less unemployment, more manufacturing, a stronger economy, less student debt, and less school tax. The economy would be stronger and we would all be happier. Ironically, in an effort not to hurt anyone’s feelings, we developed a system where everyone has to go to college, even the stupid people, until we all feel like shit.

When everybody’s special, nobody is. Getting everyone into college means you have to dumb down the curriculum until it is nothing but meaningless drivel that has no application in the real world. Colleges aren’t going to complain when you stick them with more customers. They just take the check, lower the bar, and say, “Come on in.” But getting a gold star on your math test does not a computer programmer make....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: college; education; employment; trades
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1 posted on 09/02/2013 12:01:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We should consider these arguments the next time we hear some leftist indignantly proclaim that the income gap has widened. We should not let the leftists get away with the idea that inequality of income or wealth is bad any more than we should let them get away with the idea that inequality in IQ distribution is bad.

Above all, we should not let them get away with trying to fix it.


2 posted on 09/02/2013 12:39:39 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

We need to take back the vocabulary, then the entertainment industry (or at least have a viable alternative), the media and the rest of pop culture or it’ll never happen. And no, I don’t know how to go about starting that, much less doing it.


3 posted on 09/02/2013 12:43:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
stupid people, until we all feel like shit.

Gee, real conservative language there, and this piece is about education?

4 posted on 09/02/2013 12:46:58 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm not sure I know either.

One can be encouraged by straws in the wind, for example, Downton Abby portrays aristocrats of the Edwardian era in a reasonable light as compassionate and caring people who do not condescend to their economic and social inferiors and who are, for the most part, honorable.

Of course, to change the culture you need to reach the youth and that means you have to have sex appeal. The problem is that Hollywood confuses edginess with sex appeal and so is always pushing the envelope as we saw recently with Miley Cyrus. If we could find a way to channel the erotic lusts of youth and capture their attention while subliminally bringing them to conservative righteousness, we will have squared circle and done the world a great service.


5 posted on 09/02/2013 12:50:01 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: ansel12

A) It’s 2013, not 1953 and (B) is he right or wrong? Besides, I’ve heard worse from 8 year olds in the mall, haven’t you?


6 posted on 09/02/2013 12:51:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: nathanbedford
Cyrus. If we could find a way to channel the erotic lusts of youth and capture their attention while subliminally bringing them to conservative righteousness,

dude, are you on drugs?

7 posted on 09/02/2013 12:54:58 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Hey, I thought it a rather profound statement seemingly impossible, but If you can’t produce the thought, you won’t be able to cause the action.


8 posted on 09/02/2013 1:15:06 AM PDT by wita
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lake Woebegone where all the children are above average...


9 posted on 09/02/2013 1:34:49 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GeronL
dude, are you on drugs?

No but I am on the side of history.


10 posted on 09/02/2013 1:35:02 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the reasons why liberals are so bound and determined to enforce the idiocy of sending everyone off to college to gain the credential of at least a four-year degree is that, while liberals worship at the altar of “evolution” as a theory, they cannot stand to admit that natural selection occurs in practice on humans.

Intelligence is a heritable trait, and the brutal, unrelenting truth is that there are some races and geographic cohorts which are more intelligent than others.

Businesses used to test for ability to perform the job and mental ability, but liberals got the courts to do away with those tests. As a result, businesses effectively substituted the possession of a four year degree as their selection criterion, and this the liberal thought they could fake with affirmative action and lots of easy money to pave the way.


11 posted on 09/02/2013 2:12:53 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ansel12
A) It’s 2013, not 1953 and (B) is he right or wrong? Besides, I’ve heard worse from 8 year olds in the mall, haven’t you?

Agreed. We've got a number of stick-up-the-a** people who are convinced that, in an age of leftist a-holes teaching kindergartners about fisting, if we would would just refrain from engaging in profanity and avoid subjects which refer, however indirectly, to human genitalia, we'll surely win over the newest generations!

Guess what, people - they're calling us c***suckers while we call them cads, and we get laughed at. Take the gloves off, already. Quit pretending that good taste wins the day. Prepare to get down and dirty.
12 posted on 09/02/2013 2:14:40 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: nathanbedford

Thanks for your input on this thread and others this evening. You are exactly correct about the culture proceeding apace while conservatives are running behind attempting to change laws instead of minds.

As far as this subject? Well, years ago I tried to make the case that conservatives should cease their mindless support of global economic anarchy in favor of the American middle class. We have our own below average citizens to either employ or support through welfare. That entails having a broad base of potential employment opportunities including lower-level manufacturing jobs.

I was roundly criticized by one poster who scoffed at the idea of his children having to “get their hands dirty in this day and age.” Another laughed at me for suggesting that half of the population was at or below mean I.Q.

Now the same people complain about creeping socialism and the government takeover of healthcare after they cheered on the destruction of a large part of the economy and lost the votes of millions of blue-collar workers (the Reagan coalition).

Where do we go from here?


13 posted on 09/02/2013 2:17:53 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: NVDave

But, it’s not just liberals Dave. I was excoriated on this very forum for suggesting that we needed to keep manufacturing jobs in this country because we have our own lower I.Q. citizens to either employ or support via welfare.

The vitriol directed at me for that opinion back in 2006-2007 was such that I quit posting on the subject. The CATO conservatives have used the same argument about “Americans not needing to get their hands dirty” when it suits their purposes.


14 posted on 09/02/2013 2:35:16 AM PDT by garandgal
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To: garandgal
I live in Germany and have for some time now and I think you might find some features of the way the Germans manage their economy to be congenial.

As to working as tradesmen, the Germans have been famous since Bismarck for their apprenticeship system which is thoroughgoing and ubiquitous. The man who came to install a wood burning stove in my home had had about six years of training and combined study, some of it in Germany some of that in Switzerland, to obtain his meister certificate.

As to practicing mercantilism instead of hollowing out their economy, we should reflect that this is Bavaria which drove Walmart out. It was not explicitly outlawed it, Walmart was simply undermined to death.

It is the practice in Germany to be a few years behind innovation in America. At first I thought this was backwardness but now I think it means that the Germans would not admit the new technology, such as Internet, until they can train up their own cadre of workers and executives to handle the job. Similarly, they've gone about privatizing their formally socialistic concerns such as the telephone company in an orderly way and it now rivals the kind of service you would get in the United States when, as a socialist entity, it was insufferably arrogant.

They have managed to protect much of their manufacturing and remain one of the primary exporters in the world.

I agree with you, with the proper government policies, which means repealing much of the government policies in place in the United States including tax policy, much can be done to protect blue-collar workers as well as white-collar workers.

I think you are right, why can't the Republican Party explicitly identify itself with Joe the plumber and act to protect him as an entrepreneur? They thrive here in Germany.

The Germans talk training, the Republicans talk taxes, and the Democrats talk class warfare I think Republicans should change the subject or at least broaden their vocabulary.


15 posted on 09/02/2013 2:46:03 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Pat Buchannan tried to move the GOP on a more populist/blue collar track along with keeping jobs here & controlling the border, but too many people on the left & right were more concerned with calling him names.

Now we have nothing....no jobs, no borders, no real future. But we got to call Pat all kinds of nmes, so I guess that’s somethng.

BTW...I have family in Germany, and I love the place. They are going to survive the colapse of the West better than most. Us, not so much.


16 posted on 09/02/2013 2:54:42 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

College is overrated and blue collar work is underrated. My cousin graduated high school and spent a year or so in college, which did not work out well for him. He went into auto body work and painting, which he has been quite successful at. He currently lives in a nice, little house just north of the MD/PA border with his girlfriend and daughter.

(Yeah, yeah, I know, he’d probably do better marrying her, but my uncle is tickled pink at having a granddaughter.)


17 posted on 09/02/2013 2:56:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: LongWayHome
You are absolutely right about Germany surviving the collapse better than will the United States.

In a not unrelated telephone conference with a friend of mine in the states, I said I was not sure that it was any longer true that he enjoyed more freedom there that I am now enjoying in Germany.That is a turnaround of significant dimensions.

As to Pat Buchanan, I have posted countless times, almost never without receiving abuse, that Pat Buchanan has been right in virtually everything he said and he has been saying a lot for a long time. His convention speech, (when was it 1988 or 1992?), was prophetic but, as you say, it was bombed to oblivion as the target of abuse from left and right. They have played the anti-Semitic card on Buchanan so, whether he is an anti-Semite or not, his good ideas were discredited.

Pat, you were right and they were wrong but it does not hearten me but saddens me that some of us knew it at the time. We are as saddened now as we were frustrated then.


18 posted on 09/02/2013 3:11:53 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: NVDave
Intelligence is a heritable trait, and the brutal, unrelenting truth is that there are some races and geographic cohorts which are more intelligent than others.

Bassett Hound vs Border Collie? Yes, there is a difference in intelligence. Also a difference in nature. ie Pit Bull vs English Pointer.

19 posted on 09/02/2013 3:22:46 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: nathanbedford

A GOP, along the lines of what Pat Buchanan envisioned, IMO would now be in total control of every branch of government if the GOP had allowed itself to be remade back in the 90s.

The GOP we have now is an absolute laughingstock. So-called free trade, open borders, Invade the world/invite the world social policy....madness.

The anti-Semite stuff was by & large overstated....but it did the job on Pat that the left & right wanted.


20 posted on 09/02/2013 3:23:17 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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