Skip to comments.Pope breaks with protocol by bowing to Queen Rania of Jordan
Posted on 08/30/2013 10:39:56 PM PDT by bimboeruption
As head of state at the Vatican, not to mention the leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics, protocol requires visitors to bow to him when they meet him at the Holy See.
But Francis, who has made the forgetting of formalities a trademark of his papacy, bowed when he met a smiling Rania as she visited the Vatican with her husband King Abdullah II on Thursday.
"Up until the 19th century visitors would kiss the pope's shoes, and the tradition is still that all visitors, women included, bow to him, but Francis behaves as he did before he became pope and is not interested in protocol," a senior Vatican official told The Daily Telegraph.
It is not the first time the Pope has eschewed formality when receiving visitors.
When Cristina Kirchner, Argentina's president, met him in March, a day before his formal inauguration, he gave her a kiss after she presented him with a gourd for mate, the traditional Argentine tea.
"Never in my life has a Pope kissed me!", Mrs Kirchner said afterwards.
When she met the pope in July, Brazilian's first female president, Dilma Rousseff took the initiative, kissing Francis on both cheeks.
Francis' bow was just the latest in a series of signs the pope has no time for ceremony.
On Wednesday he showed up in central Rome for a religious ceremony in an unmarked Ford, without the papal flag or number plate, driven by a Vatican gendarme.
He then entered the church carrying his folded mitre tucked under one arm. The incident recalled his carrying a personal briefcase up the steps to the plane on which he flew to Brazil in July.
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Hey, you bow at his feet if you wish to. If he thinks he is a humble person and rather do some bowing himself, then so be it.
I don’t bow to anyone.
Why is he bowing to a raghead?
Two things bothered me about this story.
One was his bowing, thrown in with the President’s bowing, one has to ask what the heck is going on with all this bowing, and why now, to Islam?
The other was that the writer implied that everyone bows to the Catholic Pope, I can see Catholics and Europeans doing that, but do Americans, would Reagan, or Rick Perry, or Billy Graham, or the squirrel hunting guy on the Walking Dead bow, to anyone?
Someday he will bow at the feet of Jesus and try to explain this.
freakin muslim president bows to muslims. now the pope. Christ can’t get back here fast enough.
I admire Pope Francis, but this could have come from The Onion.
I’m with ya.
I think he is bowing with respect to the wife of a leader of the country as a gentleman.
Christ didn’t act from what we read in the Gospels like he was on a throne here on earth either.
I open doors for women, maybe nod to people and greet them with a “good day”. Showing signs of accessibility and respect isn’t the worst in life IMO.
She is bow worthy.
Right, we have no King but Jesus and EVERY knee will bow before Him.
Not to me.
Amen and again I say, amen.
Obozo strikes again!!! Err, oh wait, Francis bowed to a Muslim? Uhhh, errrr, huh?
I’ll defer to the Pope on this one.
You’re right...Why would a head of state or a head of a church bow to a raghead?
So all Popes do this, this is just another goofy media tale?
and to be clear, it’s not slamming the pope for being humble. it’s this whole crap deal of bowing to these muslim pieces of trash that would soon round us all up and either force convert us or behead us, if they could - as they do in the countries where they do this.
Yes, Christ was humble, but did he bow to unbelievers?
Obama thinks he’s the pope, and the pope thinks he’s Obama.
yes but you know exactly how this plays in the muslim world. they give two craps about what Christ did or didn’t do. they see a leader of another religion bowing to muslims.
Well said and very much on the mark.
not to the pharisees, not to pontius pilate.
Yeah, I just don’t see taking a subservient posture before someone who wants to do harm to me and everyone who believes as I do.
I’m beginning to question his fitness for the job. I’m a Baptist who respects Catholicism (the kind that still has the b@ll$ to be true to the faith). But the new Pope seems more are more to be deviating from the true church.
Yeah, I remember John Paul at times bowing in respect to others. I don’t know about this story being an issue.
I don’t know about who Christ did and did not bow to. Do you have some video to back this up?
God in many cases used the worst people on earth to at times achieve stuff to His end. Christ even bothered to help prostitutes against judgment, so it seems to me he might have greeted people the same way others did in His time.
Thinking about it logically, I do thing Christ could have bowed to unbelievers since he was trying to hang with them all to bring them home to Dad later. I mean you get farther with some sugar than you do sour fruit.
You see a man civilized enough to show a sign of respect to others. You do not see him cut off heads and scream god is great.
I mean the end result seems OK to me.
You should give us the examples of the Popes bowing to Islam’s Queens so that we can challenge this article.
Popes wave all the time at people. What makes you think that they have not ever greeted any leaders in typical ways?
I mean the Pope just isn’t going to stick his tongue out at these people and spray them with port, sorry.
Why would the son of God touch lepers? Or wash the feet of his followers? How much do you know about Christianity?
Pork, not port...
I am typing poorly tonight.
Wow, you really crumbled there, suddenly you went from asking about video of Christ in post 32, and pretending that this was routine for Popes, to raving about waving, Popes sticking their tongues out, and spraying people with port.
If you were just making things up, why bother?
i don’t know. i just don’t like this “trend” of non-muslim leaders bowing to muslim leaders. rubs me wrong. don’t care how “nice” they are, don’t care about “respect”, don’t care about any rationalization tossed out to explain it away. they don’t read that behavior the same as we do in the west, and WE ALL KNOW IT, so we shouldn’t do it because we know how they WILL view it, and how it will embolden them to do more jihad against the rest of the world.
So the Popes always bow to Royalty?
Did any American president before Obama?
Hey, you believe Popes stand around like statues waiting to have people bow to them all day if you wish. No harm IMO.
Meanwhile here is JP2 kissing and bowing to the Koran.
Christ washed the feet of his betrayer and before bowing his head and dying, He prayed to His Father to forgive his executioners for they did not understand what they were doing.
Why do you lie about me and claim such a silly thing.
You sounded calm when you first made your claim, then when I asked for some evidence so that we could challenge this article, your calm fell apart and you started raving and spewing nonsense.
It is clear that you are just throwing out BS out of some weird desperation, who knows why this article so upsets you that it would cause you to embarrass yourself like this.
See #45 that someone else calmly left for all of us.
I can understand using sugar to open up a dialogue, but JP2 IMO went too far. So lets make up for that by making him a saint, right?
Maybe he was getting a closer look at her finger nails. They may have had a message on them like “ISLAM SUCKS”. I don’t know.
Maybe he was looking at the wedding ring and said he knew a good jeweler that could get her a deal in the next diamond if she wished? Again, we do not know.
Now you want to change the topic, the article is not about him kissing a book, it is about him bowing to an Islamic Queen.
You claimed that bowing to Muslim Queens is normal, I asked you for your evidence so that we can challenge this article that says it isn’t, that it is a break with tradition, and so far all you have done is go kind of nuts, posting about everything except for what you and I and the article are talking about.