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It's Fact, Not Anecdote, That ObamaCare Is Turning Us Into A Part-Time Nation
Forbes ^ | August 27, 2013 | Grace-Marie Turner, Contributor

Posted on 08/28/2013 6:38:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Obama administration continues to discount the huge impact its health overhaul law is having in turning America into a part-time nation, calling reports anecdotal and not based on complete data.

To paraphrase Groucho Marx: Who are you going to believe? Me, or your own eyes?

An avalanche of “anecdotes” continues to pile up as workers across the country are having their hours cut and their health benefits slashed across a broad range of industries.

Loren Goodridge, the owner of 21 Subway franchises, says he has no choice but to cut the hours of his employees to 29 a week to avoid the law’s penalties.

The negative effects of the law reach the education industry as well. St. Petersburg College, a public university in Florida, is reducing the hours of 250 faculty members because the college says it cannot afford to provide them with health insurance.

Joseph Hansen, the president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union that originally supported the law, says the health law will have a “tremendous impact as workers have their hours reduced and their incomes reduced.”

Bureau of Labor Statistics data show that the ratio of part-time to full-time jobs has completely flipped this year from historical trends. Last year, six full-time jobs were created for every one part time job. This year, only one full-time job is being created for every four new part-time jobs....

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; employment; fail; obama; obamacare; recession; ufcw; underemployment; unemployment
If he were intentionally trying to destroy the nation, what would he do differently?
1 posted on 08/28/2013 6:38:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nothing...because he is trying to destroy the nation. None in the lamestream media dare speak the truth, though.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

2 posted on 08/28/2013 6:42:45 PM PDT by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
part time nation...

3 posted on 08/28/2013 6:47:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode


4 posted on 08/28/2013 6:49:37 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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5 posted on 08/28/2013 6:50:44 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a great marxist Ponzi scheme!
Those who never wanted it to get to pay a penalty to not have health insurance, and those who have no income are covered but pay nothing!
But wait, there’s more: The government has even more imaginary money to spend on the massive bureaucratic infrastructure necessary to run the `Affordable Care’ Frankenstein monster, and the working class get to take even more swift kicks to the `nads.
It’s like April 15, but all year `round!


6 posted on 08/28/2013 6:51:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Democrats have convinced themselves that Obamacare is going to be OK after the bugs are shaken out.

Social Security is OK now, right?
Medicare is OK now, right?
Medicaid is OK now, right?

The Democrats are invoking the ghost of F. D. R. but they are just whistling past the graveyard.


7 posted on 08/28/2013 6:52:56 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

that was the plan. our standard of living being brought down, to match more of lower middle class europe and lower.


8 posted on 08/28/2013 6:55:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Socialists, Communists, and their Fascist friends understand the barrel of a gun and the jail cell, but they do not understand human nature.


9 posted on 08/28/2013 6:58:22 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: wku man

A great tragedy for many good working people. Sux


10 posted on 08/28/2013 6:59:18 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, the shift to part time is rotten. But boehnercare is still coming, and it’ll be right on schedule. Both the gop and ‘rat wings of the uniparty are positively salivating over it.


11 posted on 08/28/2013 7:02:06 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Mike Darancette

Medicare is really not OK

I was stunned when I read this because I am on Medicare.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/2013/08/24/despite-long-hospital-stays-some-patients-never-admitted-leaving-them-with-huge-bills/UjD0YLmFZE2XMtBee6KveN/story.html


12 posted on 08/28/2013 7:03:50 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears
if you ever have to into the hospital overnight for observation, make sure to tell them if they don't do a full admit, they will never get paid...
13 posted on 08/28/2013 7:07:10 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was a member of a UFCW local when Obamacare was being debated. The went whole hog saying how it would save us money, we would keep our current insurance, etc. Guess what, they are dropping all their “bothers and sisters” onto the Exchanges. Hahahahahah.


14 posted on 08/28/2013 7:12:00 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Veto!

I am happily self employed and paying about $800 per month for my families major medical health insurance. Just found an Obamacare calculator online and if its right I will have to buy a $1500 per month policy but I would get a $700 per month subsidy so I will end up paying about what I pay now if I buy thru the exchange. The $700 subsidy far exceeds what I pay in federal taxes. So in summary, I was happy and self sufficient and a net contributer to federal revenues. After the government fixed health care over my objection, I now will be a moocher, a net drainer from from the federal teat - unless I choose to pay the additional $700 per month out of pocket. Quite a choice.


15 posted on 08/28/2013 7:15:24 PM PDT by keyesguy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My health insurance just went up. Thank you Zero.

They were supposed to go down. Not up.

Obama probably meant that only his health insurance will be lower when Obamacare is the law instead of everyone else’s rates.


16 posted on 08/28/2013 7:20:18 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’ll be interesting to hear the useful idiots next year once they get what they think they want.


17 posted on 08/28/2013 9:11:56 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And sorry to say that pointing out how this is taking money that could be used for hiring isn’t going to click with many people. Most of the supporters I’ve talked to about this bill seem to think that businesses have some kind of voodoo power to just make money out of thin air.


18 posted on 08/28/2013 9:16:30 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot

I think the accurate way to see this....is that most Americans are fairly naive and have no grasp of the business community around them. If they drove down to the local fast-food district and suddenly noticed half of the operations shut-down, they’d ask questions. But I seriously doubt that they’d understand the answers over how a business fails.

It’s also the same with the banking industry, the credit card industry, and even the electrical company industry. If you ask folks how the majority of their power is created....the vast majority would just give you a funny look.


19 posted on 08/28/2013 9:48:43 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Secret Agent Man

“that was the plan. our standard of living being brought down, to match more of lower middle class europe and lower.”

Even lower middle class Europe gets a month vacation; our standard of living is falling to meet that of Red Chinese serfs.


20 posted on 08/29/2013 4:07:11 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: pepsionice

“If they drove down to the local fast-food district and suddenly noticed half of the operations shut-down, they’d ask questions.”

In my area even the fast-food restaurants have never been so slow in terms of business. The poverty has trickled down where an increasing number of families are dining on ramen noodles; only government workers still enjoy eating out and other vestiges of the “beofre-times”. I know some other people are doing OK, but they don’t/wouldn’t live around me (in what had been a middle-class area).


21 posted on 08/29/2013 4:09:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I work for TGI Fridays, a Carlson Company unit, they still hire full time and provide health insurance. Idk if they got a waiver or not, but all the other chains in the area are part time only. I try n explain that to my employees when they feel like leaving. Most people anymore are forced to work 2 or 3 jobs just to exist. Of course the govt freeloaders don’t have to do anything. It’s difficult out here.


22 posted on 08/29/2013 5:27:40 AM PDT by eak3
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To: keyesguy

That is exactly the intention - to get you addicted.

Because when enough private insurers are driven from the marketplace, the .gov will declare “OMG! IT’S A CRISIS!” and those teats will now be dispensing socialized medicine... with no alternative private option.

Unless, of course, you’re in the government.


23 posted on 08/29/2013 6:24:47 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need a Huge Government Program to encourage Full Time Work, and eliminate Part Time Work.


24 posted on 08/29/2013 6:25:16 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Cram black misbehavior down their throats until they change.)
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25 posted on 08/29/2013 7:21:56 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should have read it to see what was in it. Except most who were for it before they were against it can’t read.

I really don’t see any of this as a problem. Obama will change it to where employers have to provide insurance for workers who work 1 hour or more per week. Anytime he wants to change the law he simply says “Change it” and it changes. For the king’s word is law.


26 posted on 08/29/2013 7:55:42 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: wku man

All he has to do next is get Russia and China to bomb the hell out of us and he’s working on that.

It’s been confirmed that the IRS doesn’t have the authority to fine anyone who doesn’t have insurance. All they can do is keep peoples’ refunds. So, everyone can claim 8 exemptions and make sure they don’t have a refund coming. I did that after my ex claimed the kids when I was supposed to be claiming them. The IRS ruled in her favor so I never got another refund until it was all paid.


27 posted on 08/29/2013 7:59:01 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d say it’s about time for SF to change its football team to the “29ers”


28 posted on 08/29/2013 7:59:45 AM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For most of this year, I have been posting about businesses in CaliforniataxyourA$$es off and in particular the whino counties north of gay Frisco, cutting the hours of their businesses because of ObozoliarCare.

Some of the more caring business owners are working with other owners lining up second jobs with them and for their needs.

Two other medical costs increases re higher basic insurance costs per month and very high deductibles are forcing many younger people to negotiate cash visits due to new higher yearly deductibles. Often those deductibles are over $2400 per year.


29 posted on 08/29/2013 8:16:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to raise the import tariffs and put American’s back to work.

Obamacare provides an incentive for part-time work. But that only works if there is excess labor. If companies are competing for labor, they’ll hire full time and provide benefits.


30 posted on 08/29/2013 9:44:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to raise the import tariffs and put American’s back to work.

Obamacare provides an incentive for part-time work. But that only works if there is excess labor. If companies are competing for labor, they’ll hire full time and provide benefits.


31 posted on 08/29/2013 9:44:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leisure time is up for Americans!

Praise the Obamessiah!


32 posted on 08/29/2013 11:11:15 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Mears
I was stunned when I read this because I am on Medicare.

Medicare Supplement takes care of that.

But Medicare is in the toilette too.

33 posted on 08/29/2013 12:16:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Even lower middle class Europe gets a month vacation;

Part time gets no vacation.

34 posted on 08/29/2013 12:20:39 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: kearnyirish2
In my area even the fast-food restaurants have never been so slow in terms of business.

Lots of people marching around asking for $15/hr and unions.

35 posted on 08/29/2013 12:23:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Some of the more caring business owners are working with other owners lining up second jobs with them and for their needs.

Caring? More like a conspiracy.

36 posted on 08/29/2013 12:31:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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“Lots of people marching around asking for $15/hr and unions.”

Not in NJ; the closest strike to us is in NYC. NJ has replaced all of the American fast-food workers with Hispanics already; they’re happy to have a job. Last time they had a strike the ones around me didn’t take part, either.


37 posted on 08/29/2013 1:46:59 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mike Darancette

Yep, caring.

They could just cut the hours of their employees and let them find another part time job.

Anyone who thinks that a country or company owes its citizens health care can move to Cuba. Cuba has free health care and school and often no breakfast, lunch or meals.


38 posted on 08/30/2013 8:10:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obozoliar and his thugs in his outhouse lie 24/7/365. They are unable to tell the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If he were intentionally trying to destroy the nation, what would he do differently?”
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Well, it might be I ain’t none too smart but near as I kin figger tha anser is nuttin.


39 posted on 08/30/2013 9:50:13 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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