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Defense Department guide calls Founding Fathers ‘extremist’
Daily Caller ^ | Saturday August 24, 2013

Posted on 08/24/2013 10:44:15 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

A Department of Defense teaching guide meant to fight extremism advises students that rather than “dressing in sheets” modern-day radicals “will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place,” and describes 18th-century American patriots seeking freedom from the British as belonging to “extremist ideologies.”

The guide comes from documents obtained by Judicial Watch and is authored by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute, a DoD-funded diversity training center.

Under a section titled “extremist ideologies,” the document states, “In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples.”

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KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; dod; extremism; extremists; foryourowngood; foundingfathers; liberalism; military; nannystate; obama; obamunism
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1 posted on 08/24/2013 10:44:16 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Fumigate the DoD.


2 posted on 08/24/2013 10:45:25 AM PDT by Amagi (God Save the Republic.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Yes, those who do not bow down to tyranny are extremist. How dare they not worship oppression! Reminds me of that leftist article I was reading the other night speaking about the people “serving Obama”. Serving? Oh excuse me, but last time I checked it’s suppose to be the other way around.


3 posted on 08/24/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Bigtigermike

And guess what azzholes? We’re still here!


4 posted on 08/24/2013 10:47:09 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Bigtigermike
The screws tighten. When will enough of us realize that reform and return to constitutionalism will not emerge from those who profit so well from the system they corrupted?
5 posted on 08/24/2013 10:47:31 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Defense Department guide calls Founding Fathers ‘extremist’

Well, we call people who call the Founders ‘extremist’ traitors!

So THERE!

6 posted on 08/24/2013 10:49:09 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: Bigtigermike

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

#30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm


7 posted on 08/24/2013 10:50:54 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Bigtigermike

(I knew the Confederacy had more in common with the US Founding than anyone wants to admit.)

If this is really true, it’s getting scarier.

God forbid you speak up and confront the politicos! (Unless they are perceived as conservative politicos - then it’s all good.)


8 posted on 08/24/2013 10:51:24 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Bigtigermike

This says more about the people who wrote the guide than the founding fathers. Only communists would call those seeking freedom, liberty and justice, “extremists”.

This is another “phony” scandal that needs to be relentlessly pursued. The people who wrote and approved the guide need to be put before the public and questioned.


9 posted on 08/24/2013 10:51:51 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Bigtigermike

To England, they were extremists and traitors. To this day, people in the UK consider our Founding Fathers nothing but traitors.


10 posted on 08/24/2013 10:54:49 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Bigtigermike

If the DoD has the funds to produce such drivel then clearly the sequester has not squeezed out enough waste, fraud and abuse from it.


11 posted on 08/24/2013 10:55:23 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Bigtigermike

12 posted on 08/24/2013 10:58:36 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE THERE IS ONLY GOVERNMENT.
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13 posted on 08/24/2013 10:59:09 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Bigtigermike

What exactly is the DoD now defending? it certainly isn’t us.


14 posted on 08/24/2013 11:00:40 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Does not surprise me at all.


15 posted on 08/24/2013 11:00:43 AM PDT by sport
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To: Bigtigermike; All

Extremists is an appropriate term to describe the Founding Fathers imo. However, the anti-constitutional republic Defence Department undoubtedly knows that “extremist” will mean different things to low information citizens than it will mean to patriots who have actually studied the Constitution.


16 posted on 08/24/2013 11:01:54 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Bigtigermike

Well, there you go——they’re completely open with it now.


17 posted on 08/24/2013 11:05:18 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: beethovenfan
"What exactly is the DoD now defending? it certainly isn’t us."

Muslims, queers, and blacks who murder whites.

18 posted on 08/24/2013 11:06:16 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: Bigtigermike
This calls for a concerted counter. It is serious--very, very serious--in what it could lead to. Traditional governments have repeatedly fallen, when troops sent to put down mob led insurrections, have defected & joined the mob. That is the scenario, when the mob are Leftist, and the Government falls to them.

The opposite situation, is when the public rises against tyranny, and the troops remain loyal to the tyrant, the rising is crushed. (For example when the Mongolian troops, sent into Hungary by Kruschev in 1956, crushed the Hungarian Revolution. The Kremlin did not dare trust Russians to do the job, because Hungary looked like paradise compared to Russia at the time.)

Why if the Obama Administration is not thinking in these terms, would they be trying to disparage the legitimacy of the Founding Fathers' vision for America?

We need to make very sure that those in the Armed Forces understand that those traditional American values, being called in question, were--unlike the false dogma being promoted in Washington today--grounded upon Experience & Reason.

If the politicians now running the Defense Department won't do it; we have to find ways to make certain that those who enlist to defend us, really understand what their oaths to support the Constitution really mean.

In the meanwhile, this is further evidence as to why the House needs to set up a Committee to draft a bill of Impeachment.

William Flax

19 posted on 08/24/2013 11:06:53 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: lonevoice

ping!


20 posted on 08/24/2013 11:08:38 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: Bigtigermike

Whatever this is, it does not subvert the only oath to service that every service member takes; to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so. . .


21 posted on 08/24/2013 11:14:18 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Bigtigermike

What on earth are those idiots we sent to Congress allowing to go on down there???


22 posted on 08/24/2013 11:14:44 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

people wanting to keep slavery legal have less to do with the Founders than you think.

is seceding an option, yes.
are there consequences to seceding? yep.
are there morally valid reasons for seceding? sure. Refer to Revolutionary War.
are there craptacularly awful and immoral reasons for seceding? there sure are.
are good moral reasons for seceding and craptacularly awful immoral reasons for seceding equal? heck no.


23 posted on 08/24/2013 11:16:54 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Amendment10

History is written by the victors. And for the last 100 yrs. Socialism has been winning...and re-writing history.

You should have read some of the posts by those on this board on the recent Lincoln thread....


24 posted on 08/24/2013 11:19:23 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: Bigtigermike
I downloaded the document and intend to scan it later.I'd bet my bottom dollar that there are 50 pages regarding the extremism of groups like “Defend The Bill Of Rights” but not a single word about Fort Hood because *that*,as we know,was workplace violence.
25 posted on 08/24/2013 11:21:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: ZULU

The “idiots” don’t represent US...they represent the Federal Government and its bureaucracy to us!!


26 posted on 08/24/2013 11:21:29 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: ZULU

Read the bio’s on those in charge and PUKE!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 08/24/2013 11:24:29 AM PDT by Stayfree (If it is left, then it can't be right!)
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To: Bigtigermike

I’m pretty sure I’m an extremist then...


28 posted on 08/24/2013 11:25:14 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: CatherineofAragon

It’s almost as if there are no GOP constituents who ever scrutinize the crap that comes out of our government. You would never know by any evidence that the GOP is in control of House or Representatives either. Speaking of traitors...


29 posted on 08/24/2013 11:25:15 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Bigtigermike

There are neo GOP who share some of these viewd


30 posted on 08/24/2013 11:26:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: SandRat

Remember folks, the commissars are in charge. We are in deep Kim-chee.


31 posted on 08/24/2013 11:26:50 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: Hugh the Scot

The way I see it - “Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.....moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”


32 posted on 08/24/2013 11:28:31 AM PDT by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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To: soycd

That is the absolute truth. The GOP never speaks up about ANYTHING. They’re only interested in their own power.


33 posted on 08/24/2013 11:31:53 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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34 posted on 08/24/2013 11:37:46 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Bigtigermike

Words fail.


35 posted on 08/24/2013 11:53:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Bigtigermike

36 posted on 08/24/2013 11:54:46 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ryan71

“The people who wrote and approved the guide need to be put before the public and questioned.”

I disagree, they need be put before a wall and shot.

Everyday just when I don’t think it could get worse, something like this pops up. This nation is in such a death spiral nothing can save it now IMO, NOTHING. We have gone over the falls without a barrel or passed crush depth in a sub. No escape. I know now how those guys felt in Custer’s regiment.


37 posted on 08/24/2013 11:57:00 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The day is fast approaching when those of us who insist we are one gender or the other will be called extreme.


38 posted on 08/24/2013 12:05:35 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Windflier

39 posted on 08/24/2013 12:08:20 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Bigtigermike
The military is all that is left to defend the Constitution and the people's rights. The totalitarian socialists who want nothing more bu more power and to rule completely over all of us know that they need to neuter the military to the point where it becomes irrelevant.

Fill the army with homos, radical feminists, blame-America-firsters and chase out all those who actually believe in American freedoms and the Constitution, and it's almost game over for the real Americans. The totalitarian socialists win.

40 posted on 08/24/2013 12:23:54 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Hugh the Scot

“extremism in the defense of Liberty, is no vice” - Barry Goldwater


41 posted on 08/24/2013 12:43:56 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: Bigtigermike

The Pentagon, less than a decade after the al Qaeda
Atrocities attacked the Pentagon itself,
now has the audacity to get on its knees,
arm al Qaeda (and cover it up),
as it attacks US citizens, impugning them???

The Girl Scouts are more trustworthy.


42 posted on 08/24/2013 12:50:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: wardaddy

“There are neo GOP who share some of these viewd”

Perhaps this is why Mr. Boehner ran unopposed in 2012. The Democrats did not want him to be replaced as speaker with a possibly more effective leader.


43 posted on 08/24/2013 12:54:00 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Amagi

George Washington was a bigoted, radical extremist because he knew that sodomy was not conducive to good order and discipline in the US Armed Forces and he swiftly kicked them out. The rest of the Founding Fathers was also bigoted because they thought that sodomy was a degenerate and immoral practice. Obama knows better than all the Founding Fathers. they were all bigoted old fools. All braindead democrats believe Obama over George Washington and the rest of the Founding Fathers. If you say sodomy is a perverted and immoral practice you are now the bigot, and the sodomist is praised and worshipped and glorified. Welcome to SickoLand, aka the World of Obama, the country’s first sodomite president, and hopefully the last.


44 posted on 08/24/2013 1:52:22 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Bigtigermike

teaching guide? Students? Just who are these intended students in the DOD? Maybe it’s part of Parachutes 101? Put these manuals downrange in the “Artillery for Beginners” course and shoot until they are gone. Maybe the genius who wrote it would be happy to keep score?


45 posted on 08/24/2013 2:02:04 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Mouton

Ha! Agreed! Question them then shoot them!


46 posted on 08/24/2013 2:30:06 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Bigtigermike.
...advises students that rather than "dressing in sheets" modern-day radicals "will talk of individual liberties, states' rights, and how to make the world a better place," and describes 18th-century American patriots seeking freedom from the British as belonging to “extremist ideologies."

47 posted on 08/24/2013 2:54:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The Department of Defense is offensive to Americans who still posses a functional brain.

Clean up this central socialist government!


48 posted on 08/24/2013 2:59:48 PM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Someone needs to ask them about those cushy jobs offered to ‘retired’ DOD boys - from the companies they threw business to...


49 posted on 08/24/2013 3:08:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (Young black men -- 3% of the population -- commit 50% of the murders in this society.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

This is the Dept of WHOSE Defense? Certainly not ours!

This is chilling.


50 posted on 08/24/2013 3:57:10 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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