Posted on 08/19/2013 6:17:17 PM PDT by kristinn
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) announced Monday evening that he will renounce his Canadian citizenship, less than 24 hours after a newspaper pointed out that the Canadian-born senator likely maintains dual citizenship.
“Now the Dallas Morning News says that I may technically have dual citizenship,” Cruz said in a statement. “Assuming that is true, then sure, I will renounce any Canadian citizenship. Nothing against Canada, but I’m an American by birth and as a U.S. senator; I believe I should be only an American.”
SNIP
“Because I was a U.S. citizen at birth, because I left Calgary when I was 4 and have lived my entire life since then in the U.S., and because I have never taken affirmative steps to claim Canadian citizenship, I assumed that was the end of the matter,” Cruz said.
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That's up to Cuber, not American legal "scholars".
A Cuban is whoever Cuba says he is. And it's completely orthogonal to American law. Anything else would be a cession of sovereignty.
If Cuba were to make JCB a citizen, you could just go down to the consulate (in Canada, maybe?) and collect your passport. It would be up to you to accept or reject the "honor".
“Cruz was an American citizen from birth. I never said otherwise.
He was never naturalized. He didn’t need to be naturalized. Only a non-citizen can be naturalized.”
So are you saying that even if Cruz had lived in Canada all his life, and never set food in the U.S. then he would still be a “natural born citizen” and eligible to run for U.S. president under the constitution, even though he had Canadian citizenship and his father was a Cuban citizen at the time of Cruz’s birth?
Does this mean that you think Obama is a natural born citizen, regardless of whether or not he has a birth certificate showing he was born in the USA?
“He may or may not, but I applaud him for poking Obama in the eye on this BC thing”
You mean because he produced his birth certificate that proved he was not born in the USA while Obama did not?
Obama is clearly a natural born citizen. It was up to the electorate to figure out that he is not a loyal American, but they failed. Twice.
At this point, folks trying to gin up a definition of Natural Born that would exclude Obama are wasting their time. It takes two thirds of the Senate to remove a president, and the GOP doesn't even have a majority.
Most have figured that out. But there is this group that thinks they've discovered some sort of Constitutional magic bullet in constitutional law ... only trouble is, it hurts conservatives while being totally ineffective against Obama.
Trying to be equanimous (sp?) here and defuse the debate.
“Anything else would be a cession of sovereignty”
That’s how the law works in Cuba. Son of a Cuban born in Cuba, you’re a citizen.
The Constitution includes a 14-year residency requirement. So, yes, he'd be natural born, but, no, he wouldn't be eligible to run for president, at least until fourteen years had elapsed.
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
I agree.
What I don’t understand is, as much as I love Cruz, and would LOVE to see him president, how can he be American if he was born on Canadian soil? I am American, married to a Canadian. Our son was born here in Western Pa. He is 100% American. Other freepers have said Cruz is American because his mom was American, however, my sister-in-law is Canadian married to an American. All of her children are 100% American, having been born here. By the reasoning of some freepers, all of her children are Canadian?
This is an issue that needs to be straightened out now. I, for one, believe that our president should be born on American soil of two American citizens. I don’t know what the law is, I just know what I believe is the best for our country.
If Cruz never set foot in the U.S., he would not be eligible to be President. Read the Constitution.
This is how Hillary Clinton will become the next President:
Cruz wins the republican nomination and the general election.
Someone (who has had the information for ten years) leaks Obama’s Occidental records, showing that he claimed Indonesian citizenship.
Suddenly the MSM sees this as a story, and it runs at the top of the 24/7 news cycle for weeks.
Headline: OBAMA WAS NEVER ELIGIBLE!!!
Clinton sues to have the election results overturned, citing Cruz’ dual citizenship.
In the last EVER originalist decision issued by the SCOTUS, NBC status is defined as “born of two U.S. citizen parents on U.S. soil. The vote is 6-3.
Scalia’s head explodes, and he writes the most insane, rambling and incoherent defense of un-originalism (living constitution) ever seen.
The ruling also states that, since Obama was elected twice, and actually served as POTUS, nothing done in the preceeding eight years is affected by the decision.
Scalia’s dissent becomes the most frequently cited legal document in the removal of the first, second and fourth amendment rights of U.S. citizens.
The Republican party declares the conservative wing of the party “dead”, stating “we listened to you idiots this time and look where it got us”.
One party socialist, big-government rule continues unabated until Jesus’ retun.
Freepers blame me for not voting for Romney when I had the chance.
Bazinga!
<< I will be concerned about Cruz’s eligibility when Soetoro is in prison, and not otherwise. >>
A huge AMEN to that. And i DARE the dems to make an issue about it.
Hopefully, Soetero will be in the prison yard by the time Cruz is sworn in as President.
Why did his father wait? You’ll have to ask him.
I suspect it is the law that automatically that him a permanent resident, but I have no evidence that is the case:
“The Cuban Adjustment Act (CAA), Public Law 89-732, is a United States federal law enacted on November 2, 1966. Passed by the 89th United States Congress and signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson, the law applies to any native or citizen of Cuba who has been inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States after January 1, 1959 and has been physically present for at least one year; and is admissible to the United States as a permanent resident.”
Just today? I still see that citizenship at birth abroad to a US citizen is still NOT to be considered a naturalization.
<< Boy, there are some smellz on this thread. >>
I’m sure the left will pull out all stops to stop Cruz from running.
Right here and now, beginning with THIS thread, we need to start taking names and keeping a list. We can sort through them later to weed out those who genuinely oppose Cruz based on the issues or other legitimate reasons.
But later, there will be ppl who were on these early Birther threads who we’ll be able to track back. By then, the birth issue will be resolved and those very same ppl will be finding other “substantive issues” to bitch about to keep us fractured and ineffective. You watch!
Cruz ‘16!
I didn’t leave anything out. I copy/pasted the entire Section 301 that is in the relevant, 1952 law.
There is no section in the law that says “and shall be declared “natural born citizens”.
There is no law since the 1790 Law that George Washington signed in which George Washington agreed that a child born to US citizens abroad met the meaning of the term “natural born citizen” as he understood it. Who would know better than George Washington who presided over the Constitutional Convention that produced the very Constitution we are discussing and that had been ratified only 3 years earlier than the 1790 law.
Do you know that George Washington signed the 1790 law that saw no contradiction with using “natural born citizen” to describe a citizens born overseas to US citizen parents?
There are only 2 kinds of citizens: (1) Those at birth, and (2) those naturalized.
Check the 1952 Naturalization law to see that I am correct.
Cruz has never been naturalized because he has been an American citizen since birth.
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My son was born in the UK, with only one American citizen parent. I took him to the embassy in London when he was 2 months old to get him registered as an American citizen, and to get him his own passport (with a very embarrassing photo!)
None of the documents that I was given use the words “natural born” in any of the legalese paragraphs. He is just “a Citizen of the United States of America.”
Which has been shown since to mean citzens in the plural that are so born and not necessarily parents.
From the beginning a father as a US citizen qualified, but a single mother required certain qualifications. And, as I said in a post earlier, at the time of his birth, Cruz’s mother met those qualifications...nannie.
But nice reach...just short in this case.
Mid-thirties.
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