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Many 2016 Republican hopefuls agree: Defund ObamaCare
The Hill ^ | Aug 17, 2013 | By Elise Viebeck

Posted on 08/17/2013 2:03:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: South40

My nose is still sore from holding it in 2010...NO Romney, NO Bush, NO more damned RINOs. No RINO or GOP elitist will ever defund or repeal Obamacare, that was my friends point. The way things look today, the elite GOP insiders like Cristie and operatives like Rove will make sure no conservative or libertarian gets the nomination, and thus the candidate will be a RINO-elitist, and who in their right mind believes one of those will repeal or defund?

Remember the old expression “It’s gonna get worse before it gets better”? I think that’s where we’re at....


21 posted on 08/17/2013 2:55:01 PM PDT by bigbob
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My nose is still sore from holding it in 2010

My nose is sore from holding it since 2008.

If the GOP cannot defeat the likes of Rove & Christie it deserves to lose.

22 posted on 08/17/2013 4:20:06 PM PDT by South40
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t repeal it. It is a ticking bomb that even democrats are running from. Let the bomb go off; and in the fallout, repeal could be possible. It will be a mess. But having the GOP run in to try and defuse the bomb (defund); when it goes off, they will get the blame. Our leaders have the worst possible strategy; and no stones to boot.


23 posted on 08/17/2013 5:50:49 PM PDT by joelt
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To: Jim Robinson

Indeed. Buuuump!


24 posted on 08/17/2013 7:27:58 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks JimRob.
Still, the results of The Hill’s survey favors the shutdown-showdown strategy hatched by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), thanks to outspoken endorsements from GOP frontrunners, such as Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).
"Hatched"? Partisan Media Shills / Zerocare ping.


25 posted on 08/18/2013 5:23:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: BenLurkin

When was access to “health care” ever a Constitutional mandate? This is one of those “made-up” rights that has not the least penumbra nor historic basis anywhere. The only possible link would be to the inclusion of the words “promote the general welfare”, which in the 18th Century meant nothing at all like the phrase has come to be redefined in the 20th Century, and the original meaning has been all but obliterated in the Twenty-first Century.

The Federal government has the authority, though not the absolute supremacy, in determining what is the benefit to confer upon its citizens, in terms of reductions in diseases, promoting general safe conditions, and assuring the community has access to self-improvement. As this was not specifically spelled out in the Constitution, the actual responsibility falls fully on the STATE level, under the Tenth Amendment.

The direct administration of the responsibilities is further delegated to the local (county and municipality) levels of government.

Now, all this delegation of authority and responsibility takes money, which the Federal government has a monopoly in minting and defining, something the states are forbidden to do. What both the state and Federal governments share, however, is the authority to TAX various aspects of the economy, as defined by the relevant statutes.

Over the decades, the state and Federal governments have refined and perfected means of extracting tax revenue from the citizens, some bothersome, some unnoticed because of being hidden in the cost of doing business. All revenue from taxation, in the end, is a consumer tax on the individual, and there is no such thing as “taxing business”.

Yet the myth persists that the “rich” are going to pay all the taxes. Eventually the whole burden falls upon the poor schlub, at the bottom of the heap, or his children, or his children’s children, to pay the bill.


26 posted on 08/18/2013 7:02:24 AM PDT by alloysteel (Unattended children will be given a Red Bull and a free Kazoo. Reminds me of Congress...)
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