Skip to comments.Two Dems Warn NSA Violations Just ‘Tip of a Larger Iceberg’
Posted on 08/17/2013 1:48:52 AM PDT by Olog-hai
A pair of civil-liberties Democrats whom the White House tried to appease in a closed-door meeting warned today that fresh reports of thousands of privacy violations by the National Security Agency are just the tip of a larger iceberg.
On Thursday, the Washington Post published its report of a May 2012 audit leaked by former contractor Edward Snowden that found 2,776 violations over the previous year of executive orders and Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act provisions governing spying on Americans or foreign targets in the U.S. These included both computer and operator errors.
Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.) have been some of President Obamas harshest criticswithin his party and outsideon domestic spying. They were among allies and foes of the NSA programs summoned by Obama to the Oval Office at the beginning of the month as he hoped to calm his detractors before promising new, vague reforms.
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Nothing to see here folks everyone knows that demonrats would never do anything wicked S/O
Republicans are Ball-Less
Think Udall and Wyden are going to be taken to the Ministry of Love for their offenses against Party orthodoxy . . . ?
One conclusion I’ve come to is...the difference between dens and repubs is there is a limit to what repubs will do to hold onto power. The dems have no limit.
Once they convert phone conversations to text they can say they are not listening. If they are listening, they need the court’s permission. If they are reading text, they do not need the court’s permission.
Through voice recognition software, phone conversations of any language can be put into English and stored as text. Text takes little storage space. Easy to do a word search when it is in text. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy.
In the end, they will do as they are told. After all, Party trumps personal liberty for the Democrats.
What gets me is that two democrats have been the harshest critics...
Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.), doing a little CYA, thanks Olog-hai.
Lying NSA poodle.
Would anyone be surprised to discover that Obama and cronies were listening to the conversations of their political opponents? To Congress? To federal judges? To political activists? To conservative organizations like Heritage?
Nope, didn’t think so.
Yes Wyden and Udall are democrats, but the key is that they are antiwar pacifist democrats, And their allies on the NSA issue are the right wing isolationist republicans.
In the GOP there are 3 foreign policy groups, schools, or doctrines: Realists, NeoCons, and Isolationists.
In the dem party there are Realists, Liberal Interventionists, and Antiwar Pacifists.
The Realist Republicans, the Realist Democrats, the NeoCon Republicans, and the Liberal Interventionist Democrats all support NSA snooping activities
The Antiwar Pacifist democrats and Isolationist republicans oppose NSA snooping.
The issue of whether or not the US intervenes in Syria breaks out the same way.
“Think Udall and Wyden are going to be taken to the Ministry of Love for their offenses against Party orthodoxy . . . ?”
No. But they will lead the “meaningless-bandaid-to-prevent-electoral-damage-in 2014” brigade.
“Plus”, Rogers continued “they showed me what they have on me.”
“...Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Mark Udall (D-Colo.) have been some of President Obamas harshest critics...”
And yet, they’re STILL democrats...
Supporting NSA big brother spying makes you a “realist”? Really? I’d say the realists are the ones that actually care about the 4th amendment.
A huge misperception about the CIA is that it has a right-wing culture —the truth is the exact opposite.
I am beginning to think the NSA is the same.
HOW could you believe in LIMITED GOVERNMENT, but have a career there, storing and vetting ALL the electronic data of the whole country?
It is an Agency of Mayor Bloombergs, from the top to the bottom.
The NSA is NYC on steroids —it has nothing to do with America, and The Founders would have had NOTHING to do with any part of it’s mission.
Depends on the meaning of "realist". Same problem with "pragmatist". One might consider either of them to be that one is aware of the truth of the situation and accepts that it is what it is (almost fatalistic - or, on the flip side, complicity in tyranny). Not to be confused with actually wanting to make things right with the truth.
Two of the biggest leftists in Congress. Making a grandstand show of ignorance, at which they are very good.
What's to hide?
Such as the NSA has had direct access to every bank account through the federal reserve banking system. Wait until everyone gets a sniff of that little doody.
Do you have the spreadsheet for all 535 'critters?
Funny how the GOP doesn’t complain though. Two Democrats do the right thing, and where is the GOP?
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