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Man With Learning Difficulties to Be Sterilised in Unprecedented Court Ruling
The Telegraph ^ | 16 Aug 2013 | Victoria Ward

Posted on 08/16/2013 1:58:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A man with significant learning difficulties has been ordered to undergo a vasectomy to prevent him from having further children in a landmark legal ruling by the High Court

Mrs Justice Eleanor King, sitting in the Court of Protection, said there was "no question" of the 36-year-old having the mental capacity to use contraception and that it was "lawful and overwhelmingly in his best interests" for him to be sterilised. The man, identified only as DE, and his long-term girlfriend who also has learning difficulties, had a son in 2010.

As a result, measures were taken to prevent another pregnancy and DE was required to be supervised at all times, effectively losing his limited but “hard-won” independence.

The consequences were "profound" for both families and the judge noted that the couple’s long-standing relationship "nearly broke under the strain, but remarkably weathered the storm".

The little boy is now cared for by his maternal grandmother but the court was told it was "inevitable" that if they had another baby it would be taken into care, causing significant psychological distress and likely resulting in the breakdown of their relationship.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: fascism; prolife
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1 posted on 08/16/2013 1:58:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Unprecedented?

The Nazis did it as a matter of policy.


2 posted on 08/16/2013 2:03:29 PM PDT by null and void (Frequent terrorist attacks OR endless government snooping and oppression? We can have both!)
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3 posted on 08/16/2013 2:04:12 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: null and void
Progressives have always supported it. Even Teddy Roosevelt supported it.

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4 posted on 08/16/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: nickcarraway

Do we REALLY want two retarded people producing children?


5 posted on 08/16/2013 2:10:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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Man With Learning Difficulties to Be Sterilised in Unprecedented Court Ruling


6 posted on 08/16/2013 2:11:37 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s a really “retarded” thing to say. Your appointment is at 3 pm tomorrow.


7 posted on 08/16/2013 2:12:20 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: nickcarraway

Too late. Biden’s already had kids.


8 posted on 08/16/2013 2:13:09 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Do we REALLY want two retarded people producing children?

And you're not retarded because...?

9 posted on 08/16/2013 2:14:47 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: nickcarraway

Luckily it is in England. It will probably take two years to schedule the appointment so he has the opportunity to have a couple children if he wants to.


10 posted on 08/16/2013 2:15:42 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: nickcarraway

This has been tried before, and it does not end well.

Perhaps the British bureaucracy is unaware of the precedents in history - it may have its own “learning difficulties”.


11 posted on 08/16/2013 2:16:14 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The real question is do we want the state deciding? When the state determines what is moral and enforces what is moral............................


12 posted on 08/16/2013 2:17:21 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: James C. Bennett

Getting all politically correct, are we? Go pound sand.


13 posted on 08/16/2013 2:19:04 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Give me a break. The state enforces morality all the time. Murder is an immoral act. Prostitution is an immoral act. Theft is an immoral act.


14 posted on 08/16/2013 2:20:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

For which they can’t care.


15 posted on 08/16/2013 2:20:43 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Do we REALLY want two retarded people producing children?

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Do we really want the government to decide whether two people should be permitted to have children? At what point would a couple be declared unsuited to reproduce? The less government control, the better.

Many, many infertile couples would give almost anything for a baby.

16 posted on 08/16/2013 2:23:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; little jeremiah

“Do we REALLY want two retarded people producing children?”

Why not? Liberals do it all the time.


17 posted on 08/16/2013 2:23:31 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

God, is that you?


18 posted on 08/16/2013 2:27:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
You'd think we'd be smart enough to restrain ourselves from having children when there are serious defects. Some just don't understand.

Angelina Jolie had her own....which propogates her own defect. Was that fair to the child?

Where is wisdom??

19 posted on 08/16/2013 2:28:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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20 posted on 08/16/2013 2:29:04 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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