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NRA asks SCOTUS to strike down gun limits for minors
Salon ^ | AUG 1, 2013 | JILLIAN RAYFIELD

Posted on 08/02/2013 9:55:38 AM PDT by neverdem

The gun lobby is challenging a law that bans the sale of handguns to those between 18 and 21

The National Rifle Association is asking the Supreme Court to overturn a federal law that prevents federally licensed gun owners from selling handguns to people over 18 and under 21.

In a court filing(PDF), the NRA and two 19-year olds ask the court to strike down the 1968 law, which a three-judge panel for the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously upheld last year.

The law prevents licensed gun dealers from selling handguns, shotguns and rifles to anyone under 18, and further prevents the sale of handguns and ammo to anyone under 21. It does not prevent anyone between 18 and 21 from obtaining a gun through other channels, like private sales, and it does not stop them from purchasing a rifle or shotgun from a federally licensed dealer. The NRA is strictly challenging the provision of the law that applies to the purchase of handguns from licensed dealers for anyone over the age of 18 and under the age of 21.

Writing on behalf of the 5th Circuit panel, Judge Edward Prado argued that Congress was correct when it “restricted the ability of minors under 21 to purchase handguns because Congress found that they tend to be relatively immature and that denying them easy access to handguns would deter violent crime.” He added that Congress “could have sought to prohibit all persons under 21 from possessing handguns — or all guns, for that matter. But Congress deliberately adopted a calibrated, compromise approach.”

The NRA’s petition was filed in April, after eight of the 15 judges on the 5th Circuit voted against rehearing the case en banc. The filing asks the court to consider “Whether a nationwide, class-based, categorical ban on meaningful access to the quintessential means to exercise the right to keep and bear arms for self-defense can be reconciled with the Second Amendment, the equal protection guarantee, and this Court’s precedents.”

“The Framers’ decision to enshrine the Second Amendment and this Court’s decisions recognizing that the right it secures is both individual and fundamental are decisions with consequences,” the filing continues. “One obvious consequence is that individuals above the legal age of majority cannot be denied any meaningful ability to purchase the quintessential means for exercising the core individual right.”



From Lyle Denniston at SCOTUSBlog:

Since the Supreme Court’s 2008 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, establishing a personal Second Amendment right to have a gun for self-defense, and its 2010 decision in McDonald v. Chicago, extending that right all across the country at the state and local level, the Court has not granted review of any new gun control case. In fact, it has turned down at least six such challenges by gun rights advocates to federal or state restrictions.

Jillian Rayfield

Jillian Rayfield is an Assistant News Editor for Salon, focusing on politics. Follow her on Twitter at @jillrayfield or email her at jrayfield@salon.com. More Jillian Rayfield.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; lawsuit; minors; nationalrifleassn; nra; scotus; secondamendment
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1 posted on 08/02/2013 9:55:38 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I’ve often thought the same case should be made about alcohol.


2 posted on 08/02/2013 10:01:41 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: neverdem

misleading title. 18 - 21 NOT minors. under 18 is minor.


3 posted on 08/02/2013 10:02:35 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: neverdem

This is an interesting case, especially in that age limitations for holding office are part of the Constitution itself.


4 posted on 08/02/2013 10:06:44 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: camle

To Salon anyone purchasing a gun under 21 is a minor. However, the fruits at Salon probably think sex with a 16 year old boy should be legal because that’s old enough to decide. It’s the perverse nature of the socialist.


5 posted on 08/02/2013 10:13:55 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: neverdem

I am of the opinion that if we ban the purchase of handguns to the 18 to 21 crowd, we should also prevent them from voting, buying alcohol, etc.

OR

We say that they are adults and responsible for their actions and are then allowed to purchase guns, ammo, alcohol, vote, etc.


6 posted on 08/02/2013 10:14:29 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: neverdem

A person is an adult at 18-old enough to enlist in the military-if someone is old enough to fight, and maybe die for their country, they are old enough to buy alcohol, cigarettes, a gun, and do whatever else any other adult can do.


7 posted on 08/02/2013 10:24:38 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: neverdem

I would love the gun culture to spread to a point where my 10yo Daughter can go buy her own .223 ammo from the local Walgreen’s.

As it should be.


8 posted on 08/02/2013 10:25:30 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: taxcontrol
That would make a good law...

“The right to keep and bear arms shall be extended to all who have reached legal voting age.”

Then the liberals would have to figure out a way to raise the voting age without ticking off the mush brain college kids.

9 posted on 08/02/2013 10:25:36 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

LOL - I did not think of that but you have great point!


10 posted on 08/02/2013 10:27:11 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Dead Corpse

“I would love the gun culture to spread to a point where my 10yo Daughter can go buy her own .223 ammo from the local Walgreen’s.”

What is the reason that she can’t? A state law?


11 posted on 08/02/2013 10:29:15 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: neverdem

Hey, NRA, why not a case about reciprocity ala Alaska, Arizona, etc.? How about an easy Constitutional carry, something that should be a slam dunk w/ the latest ‘gay marriage’ going around.

Hopefully, this petition starts the ‘shall not be infringed’ battle to the forefront.

Either we have Rights, or we have privileges. Rights do NOT require permission (license) from the gov’t.


12 posted on 08/02/2013 10:30:43 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: camle
misleading title. 18 - 21 NOT minors. under 18 is minor.

Actually states set their own age of majority. One can be both a minor under federal law and of majority under state law.

Personally, I wouldn't be against raising it back to 21 where it was under common law originally. Most 18 year old kids are still somewhat daim bramaged. :)

13 posted on 08/02/2013 10:36:22 AM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Beagle8U

Yep.


14 posted on 08/02/2013 10:38:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Sparticus

How many 18-20 year-olds are currently serving in our military.

And you just insulted all of them.


15 posted on 08/02/2013 10:39:26 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: neverdem

If you are old enough to serve in the military, you are old enough to own a firearm.


16 posted on 08/02/2013 10:42:21 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: neverdem
Actually, this is a good question.

At what age is a person vested with the rights of a citizen? We have a patchwork of ages for drinking, driving, owning long guns, handguns, age of marriage without parental permission, signing contracts, criminal records & charges, etc. Also in some states, one can become “emancipated” by the courts at an early age if one is mature enough and doesn't have good parents.

Perhaps, the question should expanded by additional litigation, so we determine whether certain age definitions are state or federal issues.

17 posted on 08/02/2013 10:42:52 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: neverdem
strike down the 1968 federal law that prevents federally licensed gun owners from selling handguns to people over 18 and under 21.

So how did Trayvon get his handgun?

18 posted on 08/02/2013 11:07:01 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Robert357

Ponder this.

Under Obamacare, that age is now 25 (when you go off your parents healthcare


19 posted on 08/02/2013 11:18:23 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Texan5; Dead Corpse; reg45
This is an interesting case, especially in that age limitations for holding office are part of the Constitution itself.

Almost as old, the Second Militia Act: The second Act, passed May 8, 1792, provided for the organization of the state militias. It conscripted every "free able-bodied white male citizen" between the ages of 18 and 45 into a local militia company. (This was later expanded to all males, regardless of race, between the ages 18-54)

Those assigned to crew served weapons in modern military units often just have handguns as their personal weapons, e.g. machinegunners.

20 posted on 08/02/2013 11:20:49 AM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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