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ObamaCare Dropping Full-Timers at Schools, Local Governments
Fox Business ^ | July 31, 2013 | By Elizabeth MacDonald

Posted on 07/31/2013 4:45:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Health reform is now causing job turmoil across the country in three key groups that the White House has depended on for support—local government, school workers and unions.

School districts in states like Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Utah, Nebraska, and Indiana are dropping to part-time status school workers such as teacher aides, administrators, secretaries, bus drivers, gym teachers, coaches and cafeteria workers. Cities or counties in states like California, Indiana, Kansas, Texas, Michigan and Iowa are dropping to part-time status government workers such as librarians, secretaries, administrators, parks and recreation officials and public works officials.

This growing trend comes as three major unions have written to Democratic Congressional leaders Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid warning that, because health reform is helping to push the work week to below 30 hours, it will “destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

The federal law forces employers with at least 50 full-time workers to cover at least 60% of health-care costs for employees who work 30 hours or more per week. The law covers schools and state and local governments.

If they don't offer affordable health insurance, schools and local governments could be fined $2,000 to as much as $3,000 per employee annually. The White House delayed the employer mandate for one year so employers can adjust, which the National School Boards Association (NSBA) applauded, as the mandate will hit schools hard.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bhofascism; cutbyobamacare; deathpanels; democrathealthcare; democrats; economy; epicfail; jobs; liberalism; localgovernment; obama; obamacare; obamavoters; pelosi; reid; schools; socialism; socialisthealthcare; unions; zerocare
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Unintedned consequences: ObamaCare cuts government.
1 posted on 07/31/2013 4:45:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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2 posted on 07/31/2013 4:47:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Won’t they hire more people putting in less hours? Why don’t they make it a 20 hour work week and then there will be jobs aplenty.


3 posted on 07/31/2013 4:48:37 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Jim Robinson

NICE!


4 posted on 07/31/2013 4:49:32 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Jim Robinson

Intended consequences....single payer. Obama’s mafioso knew this would happen.


5 posted on 07/31/2013 4:50:01 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Sorry, I only pay for his vacations, speeches, campaigning, and crappy economic damage. He’s on his on for birthdays.


6 posted on 07/31/2013 4:50:27 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: bigheadfred

Tell it to the workers getting reduced pay and benefits.


7 posted on 07/31/2013 4:50:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; bigheadfred

Sounds like time to invest in a portfolio of temp services companies.


8 posted on 07/31/2013 4:51:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

wrong post CG.


9 posted on 07/31/2013 4:53:07 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I know. My son just got a job. 27 hours a week. I guess that gives them some fiddle room.


10 posted on 07/31/2013 4:53:56 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: xzins

Maybe it is time to start a temp service company.


11 posted on 07/31/2013 4:54:38 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Jim Robinson

It is nice to see the Obama voters getting what they asked for-—screwed.

But the fact is we are all getting screwed.


12 posted on 07/31/2013 4:56:15 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jobs under Obama and the Dead-Cat-Bounce.

What do they have in common?

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13 posted on 07/31/2013 4:56:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Aren’t these the same Public Service Parasites that told us the only reason we did not like Obunghole Care, or vote for the Supreme Leader, is we are all a bunch of RACISTS.


14 posted on 07/31/2013 4:58:38 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: bigheadfred

“Why don’t they make it a 20 hour work week and then there will be jobs aplenty.”

I suspect there at least two issues. As a boss you don’t know until your employee turns in his timecard that it’s the second week when he worked 30-plus hours. Now, you must pay for insurance. And, there will be plenty of people who do just that.

Secondly, at federal and state level there has been talk of punishing companies who cut part time hours to get around paying for insurance. Even just discussing such a plan would be enough to make risk-averse employers simply fire every part time employee. That eliminates the issue even before it becomes an issue. (What, employers think, if they make this law backdated to a date when we did this? Okay, we’ll simply fire everybody now and not worry about it.)


15 posted on 07/31/2013 4:59:08 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Jim Robinson

GOOD. Perhaps these Democrat fools will spend a little time thinking about who they want to elect to lead us.


16 posted on 07/31/2013 5:00:41 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Jim Robinson

Whether you stay in government or not, we welcome our brothers and sisters to the world of the private sector. It’s about time you too experienced the joy that is life in Obamanation.


17 posted on 07/31/2013 5:02:23 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (My tagline seems to be missing.......PEOPLE!!!! PEOPLE!!!!!)
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To: Gen.Blather
Secondly, at federal and state level there has been talk of punishing companies who cut part time hours to get around paying for insurance. E

It is not even close to illegal to manage your workforce in a way to reduce costs.

18 posted on 07/31/2013 5:02:50 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: bigheadfred

Makes sense. They obviously are striving for full employment....by way of part time jobs. It’s been a strategy for months now.


19 posted on 07/31/2013 5:03:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Schadenfreude.
20 posted on 07/31/2013 5:06:35 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: GeronL

“It is not even close to illegal to manage your workforce in a way to reduce costs.”

It is if they make it illegal. Whether that’s constitutional or not remains to be seen. And, a court deciding on that is a 50/50 cr*p shoot. But employers do not want to go to court. So, they will act to prevent even the possibility of a court fight. That’s why they’re firing people now, rather than waiting until the law is in effect.

I’d say it should be illegal to make somebody buy something. Why not force us all to buy a Volt? But, the Supremes disagree with me on that. (See what I mean about a cr*p shoot?)


21 posted on 07/31/2013 5:07:00 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: xzins

All I would need to start is to learn to speak Spanish...


22 posted on 07/31/2013 5:07:05 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Gen.Blather

They can still do it. Companies decide who to hire and fire and set their hours. Government could never decide these things for every private business.

Better off never citing a reason for a reduction or a firing


23 posted on 07/31/2013 5:09:09 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: bigheadfred

Kelly Services was the 2nd largest employer according to the latest ADP stats. They’re a temp staffing company.


24 posted on 07/31/2013 5:15:05 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk; bigheadfred

I think Wal-Mart is America’s #1 employer, and I think you’re right. I’m real sure its a temp staffing company. Kelly is probably right.


25 posted on 07/31/2013 5:16:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

This is why freelancing websites, rent-a-coder sites, task based sites like task-rabbit and similar “pay per the job” sites are exploding. No need to pay benefits or do more than hire and pay.


26 posted on 07/31/2013 5:21:13 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Gen.Blather

The supremes called it a tax rather than penalty. Now they need to take the next step and call it an unconstitutional tax.


27 posted on 07/31/2013 5:29:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: xzins

Good idea, where there is chaos there is always profit.


28 posted on 07/31/2013 5:29:58 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
wrong post CG.

An appropriate post on nearly every story when it comes to obama.

29 posted on 07/31/2013 5:30:31 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: AmusedBystander

True, but I crossed my eyes. Long day today.


30 posted on 07/31/2013 5:46:40 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hahahahaaaaa... I love it. Let them boil in their own stew. Hahahahaa Haaaahaaaaaa..

SUCKAS!!!!

31 posted on 07/31/2013 5:50:33 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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Unintended consequences: ObamaCare cuts government.

I'm beginning to think that this is an intentional conversion of the economy to a 30-hour work week, ala France. With office and factory automation eliminating workers, and with the bulk of the workforce too ignorant to do anything else, this is how liberals respond, spreading "job equality." In a sense, "stimulating the economy" with interest rates at virtually zero has made it easier to replace labor with capital.

32 posted on 07/31/2013 6:00:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party: advancing indentured constituency for 150 years.)
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It is definitely intentional. Whether they meant these results is the question. lol.


33 posted on 07/31/2013 6:03:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
Tell it to the workers getting reduced pay and benefits.

Problem is that, most of those workers will still blame it on the republicans, and the evil-greedy-rich, and the big corporations.

Most of those people can't be bothered to learn the truth, if they even bother to get any information at all.
34 posted on 07/31/2013 6:21:20 PM PDT by adorno (Y)
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To: bigheadfred

Won’t they hire more people putting in less hours? Why don’t they make it a 20 hour work week and then there will be jobs aplenty.

that’s how they’re reporting an increase in number of jobs now.
(in a sane society, they’d be prosecuted for fraud)


35 posted on 07/31/2013 6:35:58 PM PDT by willywill
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When they did it here, the local comments on the newspapers Facebook page blamed the schools and the Republicans for being so cheap as to not provide these people with insurance.

Even though the article referenced the ACA as the culprit several times, Obama and Democrats were blameless, in most eyes.


36 posted on 07/31/2013 6:44:29 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Jim Robinson

Brilliant!!! Pelosi was right. She should have read the bill.


37 posted on 07/31/2013 6:45:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: GeronL

You’ve never owned a business in Illinois.


38 posted on 07/31/2013 6:52:43 PM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: esoxmagnum

lol.

I guess not.


39 posted on 07/31/2013 6:54:35 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Jim Robinson
Just wait until 2018 and the 40% excise tax hits the Unions and early retirees. There will be screeching from the banshees.
40 posted on 07/31/2013 6:59:36 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Jim Robinson

Unintended? That was part of the goal all along.


41 posted on 07/31/2013 7:03:13 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: willywill

Right. They skew the numbers. And McDonald’s is always hiring.


42 posted on 07/31/2013 7:06:43 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Jim Robinson

Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, currently a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


43 posted on 07/31/2013 7:13:34 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Intended consequences....single payer. Obama’s mafioso knew this would happen.

Bump!

44 posted on 07/31/2013 7:18:24 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Don Corleone

“Obama’s mafioso knew this would happen.”

These bastards losing their full-time status ARE that mafia; every one I know voted for him.


45 posted on 07/31/2013 7:31:24 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GeronL

If the economy was good, if labor was scarce because of higher-paying manufacturing jobs employing hard-working, educated workers sucking it all up, this would NOT be a problem - it would take care of itself, like it did in a good part of the last century. Unfortunately, if some kind of a miracle took place overnight, I would not see that again in my lifetime.


46 posted on 07/31/2013 8:25:52 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: willywill

The problem is that if you have more than 50 full time equivalent workers, you get fined. This will come to light once the law kicks into effect in 2015. Once it does happen, many people will be fired.

The benefits will be required if
1. you have ANY full time workers And/Or,
2. you have more than 50 FTE workers.


47 posted on 07/31/2013 9:43:24 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I LOVE it when stupid people have to live with the consequences of their actions. :)
48 posted on 07/31/2013 10:12:39 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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Unintedned consequences: ObamaCare cuts government.

I remember when the government put corporate average fuel standards (CAFE) in place in the late 1980's for passenger vehicles. Excluded from the strict standards set were light trucks. The unintended consequence at that time? Station wagons (considered passenger cars) were discontinued in favor of "sport utility vehicles" (SUVs) which were built on light truck frames. The result? Less overall gas mileage from the general public.

49 posted on 08/01/2013 4:51:44 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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At this point they only decided you can be taxed for NOT doing something. It’s not much of a stretch to say you MUST purchase something instead.

Freedom was great, while it lasted.


50 posted on 08/01/2013 6:42:30 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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