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NYC welfare food is shipped in barrels to the Dominican Republic - then sold on the black market
NY POST ^ | 7/28/13 | ISABEL VINCENT, KATE BRIQUELET in NY and JOSE ERNESTO DEVAREZ in Santiago, Dominican Republic

Posted on 07/28/2013 5:56:31 AM PDT by Liz

Edited on 07/28/2013 6:05:06 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

EXCLUSIVE Food-stamp fraud has turned into foreign aid — to black-market profiteers in the Dominican Republic.... welfare recipients buy food with EBT cards and ship it to relatives. But not to starving children. The NY Post found people hawking barrels of American products on Dominican streets. “It’s a really easy way to make money, and it doesn’t cost me anything,” a seller said. She also vends EBT goods out of her Dominican home “I know a lot of people are doing it,” she said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; dominicanrepublic; followup; foodstampfraud; foodstamps; haiti; jamaica; newyork; newyorkcity; notalreadyposted; nyc; randsconcerntrolls; welfare; welfarefraud

1 posted on 07/28/2013 5:56:31 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

When do we stand and fight?

2 posted on 07/28/2013 6:01:14 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: Liz

Naw can’t happen people would never cheat the system they are needy and need all the help we can give them./ sarcasm

3 posted on 07/28/2013 6:01:18 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

I know your are being sarcastic, but that is the mindset of Liberals who do not understand man’s unredeemed nature. That lack of understand is the main reason Liberal policies fail time after time after time.

4 posted on 07/28/2013 6:04:27 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: Liz

There should be absolutely NO EBT cards. Basic commodities should be sold on a sliding scare to the poor through commodity stores run by the USDA....not supermarkets. The welfare criminals who are getting rich off the taxpayers would be out of business.

5 posted on 07/28/2013 6:04:57 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Liz
So this is just more redistribution to the needy world from the evil, rich, white America that has to borrow the money to stay afloat, Got it.
6 posted on 07/28/2013 6:08:13 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Liz

Now we know why Bloomie is so intent on gun laws. He doesn’t want the taxpayers armed when they come after him for his total incompetence.

7 posted on 07/28/2013 6:09:48 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Liz

If these so called poor folks exerted as much time and ingenuity into finding and keeping gainful employment as they do scamming the system, they’d be CEO’s of successful companies in no time.

8 posted on 07/28/2013 6:11:11 AM PDT by randita
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Very true

9 posted on 07/28/2013 6:11:12 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Liz

Huge amounts of food aid of all kinds are stolen. There are elaborate scams in every welfare neighborhood for converting food payment cards into cash. Some of them are even controlled by organized crime rather than being free-lance operations like the ones in the article, and the money goes into whatever these criminal gangs are using it for, ranging from simple profit to terrorism.

Obviously, if the US recipients can afford to do this, they don’t need the food aid in the first place. However, for those who do, I think we need to go back to the old programs, where they would go to warehouses a couple of times a month and get boxes full of surplus food staples: beans, canned beef and ham, rice, dried potatoes, canned vegetables, peanut butter, jelly, apple juice, etc. In other words, it was stuff they had to cook.

Having worked in one of these areas back in the 1960s when the surplus food program still operated, I know that they traded the stuff around, both exchanging different food items with their neighbors or exchanging it for something else, such as an article of clothing. But that was pretty harmless compared to what’s happening now.

10 posted on 07/28/2013 6:23:09 AM PDT by livius
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To: txrefugee

I wonder how many people we could employ with the USDA food stores you are talking about. Paid for by the reduction in fraud.

And yes they should be sold as raw food so they would have to be prepared, not given as meals ready to eat or nuke.

I see civic centers in this too to help teach people how to manage. Classes that they don’t teach anymore like Home Economics.

I have no idea if it is feasible but sounds like it could be interesting.

11 posted on 07/28/2013 6:32:50 AM PDT by BookaT
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To: Liz

Not only is food being shipped but also sheets, pillow cases, towels, tablecloths, etc.

12 posted on 07/28/2013 6:33:54 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Liz

13 posted on 07/28/2013 6:39:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: Liz

I’m sure the democrats will cure the problem you know their logic spend more on EBT cards and get more to make sure hungry kids here get fed.

14 posted on 07/28/2013 6:43:18 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: livius

Agreed. It is harder to abuse a cart full of groceries than offer to buy items on someone’s shopping list in return for cash.

15 posted on 07/28/2013 7:12:28 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: txrefugee
NYC is absolutely notorious for welfare fraud which is why illegals make a beeline for it as soon as they get into the country. The NY Post did a whole report on this about 6 years ago, step by step showing how they do it. They get fake IDs on Roosevelt avenue in Queens, then go get welfare, then get another fake ID and keep going back and forth until they can support themselves and their family 24/7 living on tax money. No need for a job.

And incredibly absolutely nothing was done about it because the Despot Mike Bloomberg actually DEMANDS it if you can believe it. He absolutely refuses to do anything about illegals, says the city "would collapse without illegals" so they continue to rip off the taxpayers in between murdering them because they are never checked for criminal records. All the time I read about illegals killing somebody. There are tons of them here with records as long as your arm, but all that means nothing to Bloomberg which is why I moved the hell out. I'm not putting the life of my family in danger like this because some psychotic despotic psychopath like Bloomberg thinks it's funny to have killers walking around the public.

Youth soccer coach, 25, stabbed to death in New York

They found out the killer was an illegal who to date has not been found because he fled back to Mexico. They even found out what flight he took.

16 posted on 07/28/2013 7:22:20 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Liz

Liberals should be ashamed of themselves...

17 posted on 07/28/2013 7:48:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat dream: An America for everyone but Americans... freeper molson209)
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Shame requires a thought process. If they had one, they wouldn’t be liberals.

18 posted on 07/28/2013 8:13:34 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (My tagline seems to be missing.......PEOPLE!!!! PEOPLE!!!!!)
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To: Liz

It must be recognized that the purpose of welfare in any form is NOT to feed or care for the less fortunate, but to create a dependent class who become virtual captives of government. Waste and corruption are not concerns.

19 posted on 07/28/2013 8:49:55 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Liz

“Our Tax-Dollars At Work”?????

20 posted on 07/28/2013 8:51:55 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: livius

A few years ago, my girlfriend’s brother asked me to take him to food “ Pantry”. I took him and because I had a new car, I parked WAAY out in the parking lot. He came to me with three shopping carts of products and I took him home. Later that week he asked if we wanted any ‘kavayer’? I asked what the Hell is that? He said Kavayer, Kavayer. It was too salty for them. I asked,”Is it spelled C-A-V-I-A-R?” He said yes they’d tried it on bread and it was too salty. I went over to his house and picked up 8 cans of caviar. How the hell did this end up in food pantry? It had an expiration date three months in the future.

21 posted on 07/28/2013 9:11:53 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: txrefugee

I’ve got a better plan. 3 MREs per family member per day. If its good enough for the troops, it’s good enough for the welfare class.

22 posted on 07/28/2013 9:13:25 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: livius
Obviously, if the US recipients can afford to do this, they don’t need the food aid in the first place.

Moreover.....they are clearly falsifying official US govt documents to get these cards. That incurs multiple crimes----and several felonies----forgery could be involved.


There needs to be investigations on several fronts. Taxpayers demand to know the full extent of US dollars being drained from our economy into Third World hellholes----including US foreign aid, food stamp foreign aid, wire transfers of EITC SS, SSI, UI, welfare checks, etc.

Dominican travel brochures reveal it is a playland for US pols and rock stars who frequent its posh resorts---where underage prostitution thrives.

BUT the travel brochures reveal corrupt govt provides no safety nets for its impoverished citizenry----the govt relies on the BILLION dollars per year its citizens living here illegally send back home.

LYING IN WAIT FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS---THESE IMPOVERISHED COUNTRIES CURRENTLY HAVE ORGANIZED PRESSURE GROUPS INSIDE THE US (here illegally): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside)l Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.

23 posted on 07/28/2013 9:36:49 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All

Pioneer Supermarket, Brooklyn, sells plastic barrels
used to ship EBT foods to family members
to sell in the Dominican Republic. / pic by J.C. Rice

24 posted on 07/28/2013 9:39:32 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All

It was recently revealed that US Senator Robert Menendez (Democrat-NJ)-—using US govt authority and resources-—moved to discourage plans by the United States government to donate port security equipment to the Dominican Republic to detect drug cargo.

Menendez cited concern that the advanced screening gear might undermine efforts by a private company — a company run by Menendez’s major campaign contributor-—a friend w/ dual residences in Miami and the Dominican Republic.

Menendez’s intervention with the Department of Homeland Security came even though Mr. Menendez has publicly chastised the Obama administration for not doing more to combat the surging drug traffic moving through Dominican ports.

And it came shortly after the senator’s Miami friend, Dr. Salomon E. Melgen, arranged to meet with a senior State Dept official, accompanied by a former aide to Mr. a related push to protect his company’s port security contract, which is worth as much as $500 million over 20 years.

News reports also revealed the Dominican govt was meddling in US affairs-—trying to save Menendez’s Senate seat from the dreaded Christie appointment. Obama stands ready to write the Dominican foreign aid check——just has to ink in all the zeros.

25 posted on 07/28/2013 9:40:49 AM PDT by Liz
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Disgraced Democrat---ex-NY Assemblyman Nelson Castro, a Dominican Republic native---was mocked for mulling a comeback---after he was forced out of his seat in a perjury plea deal. “What would he run for, NY’s best informant?” state Democratic Party co-chair Keith Wright joked.

Castro was elected to state office using shady means and was a convicted felon--later he wore a wire to save himself--and to help the feds nail his crooked fellow lawmakers.

Castro, 41, brushed off criticism: “As I walk my district, people greet me and ask me to come back. I served with distinction. Is there anything not to trust?”

THIRD WORLD ON US SOIL Is there anything not to trust, Castro asks? Well, yeah, Nelson---lots of things.

CASTRO'S LIFE OF CRIME---Castro's extensive rap sheet was apparently not considered a deterrent for public office. The NY candidate selection committee used corrupt Dominican standards to give Castro the nod---thus corrupting the US system. Castro, a Dominican Republic native---led a life of crime before landing in the NY state legislature.

<><> a 1989 felony arrest in Michigan for larceny. Michigan court records show that 19-year old Castro pled guilty to a misdemeanor conspiracy and was sentenced to 180 days probation.

<><> In 2003, Castro was arrested again in New York, this time for grand larceny. He was accused of pocketing $4,900 in unemployment checks while holding a job. He pled guilty to petty larceny, repaid the money and was slapped with three years probation.

<><> Then in March 2008, Castro was arrested a third time — for driving in East Harlem with a revoked license and as a scofflaw who owed more than $3,000 in parking tickets.

Even more disturbing revelations followed--lying under oath, votino fraud, and forging petitions for public office.


Castro's woes began in 2008, when the Board of Elections began examining Castro’s eligibility to run as a resident of the 86th district after allegations that numerous voters were registered at the same addresses as his home and that of Castro campaign worker Steve Santana.

During an Aug. 7, 2008, hearing, Castro lied under oath, denying he knew the votino fraudster--Steve Santana--and Desdemona Cruz who was on a candidate-selection committee looking to put Dominican natives on the ballot to increase latino power in Albany. Cruz and the selection committee anointed Castro as candidate. Castro's extensive rap sheet did not deter the selection committee.

The fact that illegal Dominican immigrants used home addresses of Castro, his campaign worker (and other Dominicans?) in order to vote, means they are probably registered at their own addresses, as well.

How many times did the illegal Dominicans vote? Castro was never nailed on this.

26 posted on 07/28/2013 9:47:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: BookaT

newsflash: many of the poor in NYC do not have access to cooking facilities.

27 posted on 07/28/2013 10:25:58 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Safetgiver

Answer: a donation.

28 posted on 07/28/2013 10:27:51 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Liz

The Dominican Republic has improved a lot over the years, and it’s not an impoverished hell-hole like Haiti. In fact, no Latin American country is as bad as Haiti, although places like Brazil and Argentina have slums that boggle the imagination. They’re wealthy countries and the rich are very rich indeed there, but some families live on garbage dumps so they can dig for food to eat or items to resell.

Now that’s poverty. But it’s all structural, based on their bizarre “populist” economics, which means that you talk a good game, call yourself a socialist or even Marxist, get the desperate to vote for you, and then go back to giving everything to your rich friends. But heck, that’s sort of what the US is becoming.

Pretty soon no country anywhere in the world will be able to get anything from us because ObamaMugabe’s policies will have destroyed us and our productive engine.

29 posted on 07/28/2013 11:07:12 AM PDT by livius
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To: Mygirlsmom
Shame requires a thought process. If they had one, they wouldn’t be liberals.

LOL - yes, there's that too..


30 posted on 07/28/2013 12:25:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat dream: An America for everyone but Americans... freeper molson209)
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To: kabumpo

You’re right.

Let’s just give them what they want, don’t make them have to do anything for it. Give them cash so they can go out and buy what they want and then show up at a shelter needing feeding.

Do apartments have kitchens in NYC? Or do Churches have access to kitchens?

You hand the people that need food, raw food, staple foods and they will have to find a way to cook them, if they want to eat.

I was not aware that people in NYC live in housing that is not equipped to cook food. Well they would have to adapt. Maybe trade the xbox for a rice cooker.

I have been a lot of places and most of the people in those places had the ability to cook food.

31 posted on 07/28/2013 1:54:16 PM PDT by BookaT
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To: BookaT

I understand your feelings, but you are not aware of the reality of extreme poverty in NY. These people are not living in apartments, they are often living in tiny rooms with a bathroom down the hall. It is illegal for them to have even a hotplate, much less a refrigerator in which to keep food.

32 posted on 07/28/2013 5:17:15 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; no-to-illegals; sickoflibs; The Mayor; NYer; Sun fraud doesn’t stop w/ shipping food fraudulently bought w/ EBT cards. A Dominican illegally in the US colludes w/ Bronx grocers to ring up bogus $250 transactions with her EBT card. In exchange, the stores hand her $200 cash and pocket the rest. No goods are exchanged.....she sends the money to Santiago — except when she’s not spending it on liquor or other nonfood items.

“We do it all the time, and a lot of people do this,” the Dominican scammer said. “It’s a way of laundering money, but it’s easier because it’s free." (NOTE: "free" to them---paid for by taxpayers)

A man called Jean, a public-assistance cheat in Santiago, told The NY Post he has peddled welfare food in Santiago since getting deported from New York in 2010. A thirty-something Haitian national, he said his scamming sister in Queens uses her EBT card to purchase food before shipping it to him from Long Island City.

“Every other month, I receive the barrels from my sister in New York City,” he told The NY Post. “Whatever I don’t need, I sell. “My sister in the US illegally uses food stamps to buy most of the things she sends me,” Jean added. He says the barrels are filled with cereal, baby formula, juices, olive oil and canned soup. He said his sister uses Long Island City’s Santiago Cargo Express, where barrels full of food cost $100 to ship to the DR.

When The NY Post found Jean, he was lugging an empty barrel down the street and hoping to sell it to a friend for $35. Many Dominicans then use the containers to store water for their homes. (SOURCE: NY

33 posted on 07/29/2013 5:16:30 PM PDT by Liz
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