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CO Police Department Targets Local Resident After Applying for a BB Gun Permit
Ammoland ^ | 23 July, 2013 | NA

Posted on 07/25/2013 6:15:00 AM PDT by marktwain

Grand Junction, CO --(Ammoland.com)- Discharging a BB gun in the city limits of Grand Junction, Colorado (Pop. 50,000) is illegal.

In order to try to rid his area of an officially recognized invasive species, the Eurasian Dove which the State of Colorado allows to be hunted with no bag limit. James Shults requested a Discharge Permit to use a 30-year old Daisy BB gun to run the pest from his residence area and from neighbor’s areas with their permission.

After inspection of Shults’ neighborhood by two separate police sergeants the Chief refused the permit as the neighborhood of single story houses is densely populated. Shults, a former National and , multi-state rifle champion and holder of many state and national records has no problem with the Chief’s decision, though he says “… it was sort of funny, of course it is densely populated, it’s inside the city.”

However, Shults noted that the Chief also sent copies of his denial letter to the Deputy Chief of Police, Grand Junction’s police Patrol Commanders and the city’s new high-tech 911 Center. Shults checked with his many law enforcement friends and contacts around the country and they confirmed he had indeed been targeted and flagged by the police and 911 center. According to Shults some LEOs (law enforcement officers) humorously chided him saying– “That’s what you get for trying to do the right thing.”

Shults says–”All this action for requesting a legal permit to discharge a Daisy BB gun in the city seems a little twisted. Am I now a terrorist to be watched by the full command of the Grand Junction police to include a flag on my residence by the 911 Center? I must be a very dangerous man armed with my Daisy BB gun; obviously a weapon of mass destruction.”

However, Shults gets serious when he compares this type of local targeting and flagging of citizens by the Federal government’s enforcement organizations to include the IRS, FBI, NSA, etc. and in his city. He has notified the Grand Junction City Council to modify this policy so that law abiding average non-threatening citizens do not appear on it.

Shults Says–”In my case, when a local citizen requests a legally designated permit for a BB gun and finds himself on city police flagged watch lists, it is sad, silly and serious. This practice is something our City Council should immediately investigate and eliminate and order citizen’s names removed from and certify that that has been done. The flagging exceptions would/could be citizen threats against officers, other citizens and property-but not interesting or non-threat contacts between the police and citizens as mine was.”



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 911; banglist; bbgun; co
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The problem is that these lists can have serious consequences, such as being used to justify a full blown no knock SWAT raid, instead of a simple knock on the door.
1 posted on 07/25/2013 6:15:00 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Besides a new door replacement, they will shoot your chihuahua right off grandmas lap just for grins. No-knock raids are terrorism tactics and should be illegal.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 6:19:06 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Democrats will give you the shirt off somebody elses back for a vote.)
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To: marktwain

Where did they get such a headline as this?

It actually says that the police dept. applied for the BB-gun permit.

I know that’s not your point, but what the ... ?


3 posted on 07/25/2013 6:20:51 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: marktwain

“You’ll shoot your eye out, kid.”


4 posted on 07/25/2013 6:21:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: marktwain

It’s much easier for the cops to catch a normal citizen doing something than it is to catch a real criminal. The normal citizen won’t shoot, won’t fight, and won’t sue.

The arrest numbers go up just the same.

Besides, the corrupt administrations want the cops to leave the underclass alone and let them keep their illegal guns.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 6:21:20 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: marktwain

An old daisy bb gun may wing them enough to fall to the ground but he’ll have to chase them, then club or stomp them to finish them off. No matter he probably won’t hit any in the first place.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 6:23:47 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: marktwain

In before the “you’ll shoot your eye out” pictures.


7 posted on 07/25/2013 6:32:40 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Now that he has gone public, he probably really is at risk of a dynamic entry raid. Embarrass the state and suffer the consequences...


8 posted on 07/25/2013 6:33:04 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: marktwain

I killed many doves with my trusty slingshot and marbles when I was a kid. I wonder if he needs a permit for that?


9 posted on 07/25/2013 6:35:54 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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"...he probably won’t hit any in the first place."

"Shults, a former National and , multi-state rifle champion and holder of many state and national records...."

10 posted on 07/25/2013 6:36:04 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: marktwain

Lesson: “SSS”...


11 posted on 07/25/2013 6:39:02 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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The Daisy Powerline 880 was introduced in 1972 and is still being manufactured.

It will take out Eurasian doves just fine.

12 posted on 07/25/2013 6:39:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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Now that he has gone public, he probably really is at risk of a dynamic entry raid. Embarrass the state and suffer the consequences...

That is because the Government is now our lord and master, this change is illustrated in this informational brochure on interacting with government agents:
Stop, Drop, and Cower
[Direct Link]

13 posted on 07/25/2013 6:40:46 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I know-the current lack of writing skills is simply astounding-sometimes I have to read the story because I can’t understand the headline!


14 posted on 07/25/2013 6:40:48 AM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: ImNotLying

I found that a slingshot and #9 birdshot worked great.


15 posted on 07/25/2013 6:40:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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And it has enough punch that you can drop possums with it, takes a few hits in just the right spot. And all this time I was a Crosman fan too....lol.
16 posted on 07/25/2013 6:45:33 AM PDT by thescourged1
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To: marktwain

The Cops’ job is raising money from innocent citizens attempting to legally go about their daily business.

Engaging them otherwise is a fool’s errand.

Ignore the cops and do what you need to do. Quietly, if necessary.


17 posted on 07/25/2013 6:46:00 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Tipline for Zimmerman's Inquisition is: Sanford.florida@usdoj.gov ... Use it.)
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I think that this is a LOT worse than the potential of a violent and lethal SWAT raid. Federal, state and police agencies are now networked, so if you get on anyone’s s-list, you are on *everyone’s* s-list.

And getting yourself off these lists is, I won’t say almost, I’ll say “impossible”.

This poor guy has a good chance of being put on the no-fly list, that nobody seems to control. He will get bad data (”raw file”) background checks that will be shared, that then will be data mined with everyone else on the list; which reaches a level of insanity.

“He shopped at a store where a white supremacist had shopped months before, therefore he is a white supremacist.”

That insane.

Plus, even though all his communications are monitored, they will now be intensely monitored by multiple and redundant government agencies, using systems called NarusInsight (FBI), CALEA (FBI), PRISM (NSA), ADVISE (DHS), whose data is made available to the 72 multi-agency “fusion centers” around the US, used by federal, state and local agencies. Basically any government employee who wants to access or add to it.

And at any time, any of them can whimsically ruin his life.

And congress just voted against reducing any of this threat in the slightest.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 6:52:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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Our police military units have to create targets to terrorize.


19 posted on 07/25/2013 6:57:51 AM PDT by pallis
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The American STASI.


20 posted on 07/25/2013 7:00:19 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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