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Freedom From Religion Foundation Opposing Star Of David At Holocaust Memorial
Opposing Views ^ | July 19, 2013 | Evan Bleier

Posted on 07/21/2013 10:56:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

An atheist group that is known for targeting supposed violations of the separation between church and state recently protested a Holocaust memorial because the monument plans to feature a Star of David.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, or FFRF, has stated its opposition to the proposed Ohio Statehouse Holocaust memorial because its leaders believe that including the religious symbol would create "legal precedent."

The co-presidents of the FFRF, Don Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, wrote a letter to Richard Finan, chair of the Capitol Square Review and Advisory Board about the proposed memorial, The Blaze reported.

“Permitting one permanent sectarian and exclusionary religious symbol ... would create the legal precedent, for instance, to place an equally large or larger permanent Latin cross on Capitol grounds," they wrote. The group maintains that they have an issue with including the star because it is associated with Judaism but have no problem with a Holocaust museum at the capitol.

“The monument could resemble numerous powerful war memorials across the U.S. which do not use any sectarian images, including the national World War II Memorial, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and the Korean War Veterans Memorial,” the letter continued. “Each is secular in nature and without religious reference, which offends no one and is respected by all.”

The architect who is involved with the project, Daniel Libeskind, purposefully included the star because he says that “one cannot separate the Holocaust from the star.”

Despite the FFRF’s intense opposition, the design was approved.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Israel; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: annielauriegaylor; antitheism; atheismandstate; atheistspremacists; churchandstate; danbarker; daniellibeskind; donbarker; establishmentclause; ffrf; gaylor; holocaust; israel; libeskind; memorial; napl; ohio; richardfinan; star; starofdavid; theholocaust; thenogodgod; veterans
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This is not satire.
1 posted on 07/21/2013 10:56:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?


2 posted on 07/21/2013 10:57:18 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
“Each is secular in nature and without religious reference, which offends no one and is respected by all.”

This guy is evil and probably stupid as well. I find the idea of a Holocaust Memorial without the Star of David shockingly offensive. Do these whiners from the FFRF even know what the Holocaust was about?


3 posted on 07/21/2013 11:03:39 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Despite the FFRF’s intense opposition, the design was approved.
Good - now go F yourselves FFRF.
4 posted on 07/21/2013 11:06:20 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Hate filled wretches.


5 posted on 07/21/2013 11:07:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Pollster1

They’re fanatics. Utterly beyond logic or reason.


6 posted on 07/21/2013 11:09:34 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

So what does an atheist woman scream out during sex?


7 posted on 07/21/2013 11:11:34 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: cardinal4

“OH, NOTHING!”


8 posted on 07/21/2013 11:12:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

They, along with millions of other low-info Americans, have no idea what the establishment clause means. I would wager that a majority of Americans believe the words “separation of church and state” actually appear in the Constitution.

This what happens when the government schools quit teaching civics and replace it with ethnic studies.


9 posted on 07/21/2013 11:13:24 AM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Slings and Arrows

It would have been just as catastrophic if Hitler had exterminated 6 million atheists.

But there is no denying that they were Jews.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 11:14:20 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Slings and Arrows

...and just as there is no constitutional separation of church and state, there is also no constitutional freedom from religion.


11 posted on 07/21/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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The symbol is good enough for the headstones of thousands of Jewish men who gave their lives for our country and our freedom. So it is definitely appropriate for a Holocaust Memorial.


12 posted on 07/21/2013 11:18:50 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Si vis pacem, para bellum.')
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To: Slings and Arrows

Just ban the FFRF!!!


13 posted on 07/21/2013 11:20:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Don’t give them ideas. (Only half-joking.)


14 posted on 07/21/2013 11:24:01 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
In U.S., 77% Identify as Christian - Gallup.Com

20% of Americans Are Now Atheist, Agnostic or Unaffiliated ...

... According to research, there are about 6.4 million Jews in the U.S.,

Now tell me why we let these peons get away with messing with our God stuff..Just something to prove they can..I just wish these roaches would go back into their holes and leave us alone..

15 posted on 07/21/2013 11:25:29 AM PDT by PLD (-)
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To: PLD

As I said, fanatics. With a greater or lesser portion of IRL trolling.


16 posted on 07/21/2013 11:26:34 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: oh8eleven

I love your post because it was almost word for word what I was going to say.


17 posted on 07/21/2013 11:27:50 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady (AMNESTY BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A PIG WITH LIPSTICK)
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To: cardinal4

Oh Science!


18 posted on 07/21/2013 11:31:22 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Slings and Arrows
They’re fanatics. Utterly beyond logic or reason.

We have turned the other cheek in response to such fanatics for far too long. While that is essentially perfect guidance that I do my best to follow when dealing with normal people, it's the wrong answer when dealing those who exploit our virtues.

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one . . . And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. [Luke 22:36,38]

I believe this passage means that there is a time for the sword - but only in moderation. I also believe this is the time when we should no longer turn the other cheek, not when western civilization and freedom are on the line. The Ohio State House should either fight to the death for a real memorial, or replace their planned memorial with a discrete plaque explaining that the litigious bullies from FFRF, siding with Holocaust deniers, have prevented them from building a true Holocaust Memorial, and that any memorial without the Star of David would be meaningless.

19 posted on 07/21/2013 11:31:55 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: sauropod

“Oh, Darwin!”


20 posted on 07/21/2013 11:32:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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