Posted on 07/16/2013 6:18:44 AM PDT by kimtom
Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have joined an upstart effort to remove the chain of command from military sexual assault cases, POLITICO has learned.
The tea party favorites give the bill’s lead sponsor, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, critical conservative cover as she battles the Pentagon and hawks in both parties on her proposal to create a new prosecution system for major military crimes. Paul is scheduled to attend a press conference Tuesday in the Capitol with Gillibrand and other bill backers, including Sens. Chuck Grassley and Barbara Boxer, to discuss his new position, which inches the New York Democrat closer to the 51 votes she hopes is all she’ll need when her proposal comes up for debate as early as next week. The issue of military sexual assault came under intense scrutiny this spring on Capitol Hill when top military commanders from each branch of the service sat before the Armed Services Committee........
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This “issue” is so bogus.
Military sexual assaults are no greater and the general population and some studies on the military assaults are 50% are same sex, which makes since since the reported events have exploded since open homosexuality.
Lots of homosexual rapes happening in the military now. Anything that exposes that to the light of day is a good thing.
I haven’t read the bill, but as long as it doesn’t have hidden protectiosn for faggots it should be ok.
Wonderful - 3 people who have never been on active duty and have no idea what the UCMJ is now want the chain of command removed from judicial cases!
Correct,
It is a cover
Couldn’t agree more. I retired following 22 years of service in 2009. While sexual assaults did occur, there certainly was not a “culture of rape” as some of these idiot politicians and political appointees have suggested. This is just one more attempt to emasculate the military to suit the leftist (aka Marxist) agenda.
No. It's a good issue. If a woman wants to enlist in the military, she shouldn't have to fear sexual assault. It's a good issue for conservatives. Think about it....women who want to be in the military and don't want to fear rape are good candidates to be constitutional conservatives.
Under normal circumstances I'd agree this would be a bad idea, but Obama's politically correct military leaders haven't exactly done a stellar job with this issue. And the possibility of getting the WHOLE matter out into the open, including the same-sex incidences... I'm not seeing this as bad thing.
I have served, the UMCJ is very strict and anyone tried would face a career ending judgment.
Civilians That never served, should not be involved.
(However I do not believe in cover ups either. I do support accountability)
I read that about 14,000 of the 26,000 sexual assault victims in the military in 2012 were MEN.
What does that tell you?
Victims of sex assaults in military are mostly men
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/20/victims-of-sex-assaults-in-military-are-mostly-sil/
That the US military needs more than one LGBT Pride Month per year?
Ted Cruz is going to bring truth to any situation
The media is playing this thing up as is Boxer and any military hatrr
If BO loving, indebted, brass are in on this there will be a lot of cover up etc.
BO sure doesnt want Cruz around poring through documents. Boxer welcomes him with grotted teeth, i imagine
These guys are not going to sign off on any bs The truth will out. And thats always good
I also spent several years in the military...
and there was and is no protection for women from rape and molestation...
The commanders protect the rapists while discretiting women who report attacks...
you probably didnt know what was going on because of the gigantic institutional coverup that has been in place for DECADES
Iver met women who were raped during WWII who told me thewy had a choice..keep their mouth shut or get out...
When I join back during Nam, women who reported sexual attacks were tossed out of the military as “unfit” etc
Would you risk your career and reputation and report sexual assaults if it meant you would not have the honorable discharge necessary to get another job and to continue your life ???
Rapists had and have immunity..especially black ones
and now homosexual ones...
Maybe by taking it out of the control of the Commanders and
encouraging women to go to local police etc the horrible situttion may be changed..
If rapists knew that their crimes were going to be seriously attended to and they would be arrested and proscecuted and imprisoned they might think twice...
When I did a survey of the 200+ women/victims who attended the first new summit on sexual assault in the military last year in DC, the stories had not changed since the 1970s
many were “punished” for reporting the rape..
(and yes they were raped in the US as well as Iraq and Afghanistan..)
reassigned along with the info that they had been raped giving the next lot of guys clear signals the woman was easy pickings and they could do whatever they wanted...
Just like in the 1970s, some of the women experienced rape more than once...
I dont know what your job was or where you were assigned but years before you enlisted there were race riots on the bases and posts in CA and part of the “war” was rape and molestation of white women..
No it wasnt just black guys who raped women in the military..
The white coounterparts of the black rapists were imboldened to attack women also...
it just seemed like the commanders were afraid to reprimand the black guys so they punished the women for “daring” to accuse lil Trayvon...
If you think these women were all party goers you will be wrong...
unfortunately many women dont ever come forward to say the attacks were connected to their work etc..who would believe them
(Oh she must have been drunk and at a party asking for it...shes an easy woman, the way she dressed etc)
Personally I was dressed in my military uniform and at work...
Not only are a majority of the reported assaults male-on-male but a majority overall are either completely without any evidence or provable lies. I knew a fair number of women who used this ploy to “get even” with their boyfriends which is not uncommon on the civilian side as well.
Obama worship is a culture of rape.
yes that makes 3% of the men in the military while more than 10% of the women are victims of sexual assault...
does it make it better and the women cant complain that some man tossed out some unfounded numbers and you believed them ???
Those numbers are not proven just a suggestion to make sex crimes against women less important...
Placing more men and women in close contact as is happening in the armed forces, will always increase the frequency of sexual contact, consensual and non-consensual. It is as natural as day and night. Call it biology or hormones, but it is a fact of life.
IMO the fact that the armed services draws in the more “macho” type male than the normal population leads to the more aggressive and non-consensual encounters.
I am expecting Obama’s military leaders to soon call for the enlistment of only feminized males to reduce the frequency of non-consensual sex.(ya think?)
Certainly the Afghanistan war-lords will lobby for this change in enlistment standards. They love young boys.
BTW the same homosexual victim who gave out those numbers claimed that his attacker was a straight man and that most of the attacks against men are by heterosexuals...
that few gays actually commit rape..
I have spoken to that man personally...
and that is what he has to say...
along with the pumped up numbers...
No, our military judicial system is NOT what it used to be. If Dempsey is against it, I’d NOT be worried about it. There is a lot of bias int he system these days and it is not good. Good people have been stripped of rank for their political and personal views, and just trying to stand on Constitutional issues.
I served with women in the military for 15 years. Even married one. I never met one that was worried about sexual assaults.
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