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Union Letter: Obamacare Will ‘Destroy The Very Health and Wellbeing’ of Workers
WSJ ^ | July 12, 2013 | Tom Gara

Posted on 07/13/2013 9:23:30 AM PDT by george76

the Affordable Care Act has a new, high profile set of dissenters: Unions.

The leaders of three major U.S. unions, including the highly influential Teamsters, have sent a scathing open letter to Democratic leaders in Congress, warning that unless changes are made, President Obama’s health care reform plan will “destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

If that’s not bad enough, the Affordable Care Act, if not modified, will “destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans,”

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1 posted on 07/13/2013 9:23:31 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Oh well.


2 posted on 07/13/2013 9:24:58 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

why don’t these lib pukes just ask for an exemption like the rest of the Dem donor companies?


3 posted on 07/13/2013 9:26:40 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: george76
the Affordable Care Act, if not modified, will “destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans"
Wow, short of any verdict in the Zimmerman fake trial, I'm SURE this will be the lead story on the MSM evening news.
4 posted on 07/13/2013 9:28:10 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: george76

Apology accepted.

This is especially directed to the unionista who told me I was racist for opposing obamacare a few years ago.


5 posted on 07/13/2013 9:28:12 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: max americana

The exemptions are only good for a period of time, then it disappears.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 9:29:18 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: george76

“The leaders of three major U.S. unions...have sent a scathing open letter to Democratic leaders in Congress, warning that unless changes are made...”

Changes like a waiver for union members, maybe?


7 posted on 07/13/2013 9:31:19 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: george76

Only when his ox is gored.


8 posted on 07/13/2013 9:32:06 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: george76

God keeps on clobbering the Democrats with the consequences of their own foolish ways and yet they will not concede “It is useless!”

Not that the GOP is terribly far behind, although at this point they are, yes, still behind in the race towards evil.


9 posted on 07/13/2013 9:33:10 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Jonty30

Anybody know ... if you work part time for a unionized company, do you still have to join the union?


10 posted on 07/13/2013 9:34:26 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: george76


11 posted on 07/13/2013 9:35:18 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: rawhide

As if anyone cared about the law, ‘hide? When Barack can singlehandedly go off the Obamacare schedule specified in the PPACA and the Congress just sits there with their mouths open as if in a stupor, surely an indefinite waiver is a very small thing for this Emperor to do?


12 posted on 07/13/2013 9:36:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: BunnySlippers

I’d think yes, but someone surely has an official answer.


13 posted on 07/13/2013 9:36:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: george76

Obama Care was never about improving the health care of working people.

It was about taking money that workers currently spend on their own health care and redistributing those health care dollars to other people who are not working

Of course, this means worse health care for everyone


14 posted on 07/13/2013 9:37:56 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: george76

I actually figured the 30 hour workweek was something the unions wanted in there.

Anything over 30 is overtime.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 9:38:51 AM PDT by digger48
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To: george76

Doesn’t your heart just bleed for these Union pukes who got what they asked for when they voted Democrat?


16 posted on 07/13/2013 9:40:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: george76
"We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it"
Nancy Pelosi
17 posted on 07/13/2013 9:40:13 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: george76

The answer to the unions should be “no”. They agitated for the law, lobbied for the law. Like any drug user, the American people to feel real consequences before pulling their heads out of their collective a**es. Obamacare should be implemented completely, in its fully glory. Let.It.Burn.


18 posted on 07/13/2013 9:42:09 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: rdcbn

If someone can tot up the Brobdingnagian numbers (I always wanted to use that word) it surely will be seen that it would have been cheaper and easier to just issue mini-med plans (if not the full monte) to the welfare set.

In the larger picture, America is being tested by evil. The constitutional system it was bequeathed will only work where most people actually care about keeping promises. Barack doesn’t; he’s the most consummate liar to sit in the Oval Office to date. God is endeavoring to force America back to the gospel. Will this succeed? I am not privy to the plans. But I pray it will, and that out of this morass of evil will come another great awakening, but one that is not marked by theological gimmick (God can minister around gimmicks if He has to, but then their residue has to be cleared away afterwards or else prove a stumbling block for the future).


19 posted on 07/13/2013 9:43:06 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: george76
Comment on the WSJ article:Gotta love it.
20 posted on 07/13/2013 9:43:25 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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21 posted on 07/13/2013 9:44:28 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: george76; All

and of course, this received a lot of coverage in the MSM


22 posted on 07/13/2013 9:44:33 AM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: george76

The unions blocked the doors and didn’t let people in during public meetings leading up to the rammed-through vote.

The unions bused in their members and they filled the seats of these meetings.

The unions punched out people who carried signs against Obamacare.

The unions need to take their medicine full strength.


23 posted on 07/13/2013 9:46:38 AM PDT by lurk
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To: george76

The unions got the boy elected and now they’re upset because he’s doing what he promised them he’d do. Geeesh. Morons. Elections do have consequences. Union voters are a bunch of really low information types.


24 posted on 07/13/2013 9:47:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If America is a nation of immigrants, where's my free stuff?)
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To: lurk

I don’t think we need to do anything but sit back and watch. God’s orchestrating this. He’s not mocked. Mess around with His grace and one gets oneself in horrible tangles. And if and when they say, hey, what could we have been thinking... please resist the temptation to glorify yourself by saying “I told you so.” Refer the glory to God, who told all of us so, including about things that all of us are badly muffing now, almost 2000 years ago.


25 posted on 07/13/2013 9:49:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Temps usually work for union shops without union coverage but that’s often seen as probationary and then they’re hired and in the union or replaced by more temps.

Seems like UPS had union people working part time for years.


26 posted on 07/13/2013 9:49:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: george76

Look for the Union label
and throw all good sense
under the table.


28 posted on 07/13/2013 9:51:45 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: cripplecreek; HiTech RedNeck

Thank you for the responses.

I was wondering if the bottom line here was declining union members meaning less money.


29 posted on 07/13/2013 9:53:55 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: george76
Union Letter: Obamacare Will ‘Destroy The Very Health and Wellbeing’ of Workers

They can all burn in the hell of their own making which is the same one they planned for the rest of us.

30 posted on 07/13/2013 9:54:42 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Heart of Georgia

>>Changes like a waiver for union members, maybe?

That was their plan. But, now that the “you can keep your plan if you like it” lie has been exposed, they’re in a panic. They want their Cadillac Plan, but under ObamaCare, they have to pay for it out of pocket. They’re learning that the employers who cut out health care plans from employee compensation are not giving a pay raise that is equal to the amount of the new ObamaCare premium.

Basically, they’ve come to realize that the Right’s “Sky is falling” warning about ObamaCare is 100% true! They’re mad, not because Obama sold them out, but because the Right is right.


31 posted on 07/13/2013 9:54:51 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
God keeps on clobbering the Democrats with the consequences of their own foolish ways

Unfortunately, God is an equal-opportunity clobberer and he's been smiting those of us who opposed Obamacare as well as devastating its (former) champions.

32 posted on 07/13/2013 9:55:06 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

The righteous will suffer along with the wicked, but in the end not equally so. The wicked must either repent or get utterly swept away. The theme of burden-bearing is written deep into the constitution of this universe.


33 posted on 07/13/2013 9:56:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: BunnySlippers
I was wondering if the bottom line here was declining union members meaning less money.

That...and how much do you suspect the unions are raking off the top on the insurance contracts covering their members?

Recall that, in Wisconsin, once the state no longer had to deal with an insurance company that was owned by the teacher's union, health insurance costs for teachers dropped about 30%.

34 posted on 07/13/2013 9:57:01 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: dinodino

Well, if we’re going to pull out of this thing as a country, a softer answer than that is going to prove very useful if and when these already-dwindling union people get their sane eyes back on. We’ve all done something wicked and if we all “ate sh*t and died” for it then the land would be barren. God throws no parties over that.


36 posted on 07/13/2013 10:00:27 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Declining membership is certainly going to be an issue in Michigan which is causing the unions to scramble. Teachers unions are trying to force schools to hire loyal union seniority teachers and demanding the immediate payment of millions in insurance costs.


37 posted on 07/13/2013 10:02:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: george76
Be careful what you wish for:

Activists Hold First Gay, Bisexual Blood Drive To Get FDA To Change Rules Men who have sex with men have been banned from donating blood by the Food and Drug Administration since the 1980s.

38 posted on 07/13/2013 10:02:25 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: george76

If the federal subsidies aimed at the poor go to low paying union employees, look for union dues to go up in the amount in question. New money laundering scam to take taxpayer monies and apply it to organized labor and, of course, back to Democrats. /tin foil


39 posted on 07/13/2013 10:05:25 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: george76

I hope so. That is what they and they were a big factor in inflicting him on me two times. I wish nothing but the worse on them.


40 posted on 07/13/2013 10:06:48 AM PDT by sport
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To: george76
Were these people so stupid when they supported Obamacare that they had no clue what would happen if it passed?

These people spent their member's dues to support Obama and other Democrats who wrote this legislation and got it enacted into law. These union officals all said how great Obamacare was. Now all of a sudden they are finally starting to figure out that it will be a disaster for their members.

These people are liars and scum. No one should trust them.

41 posted on 07/13/2013 10:08:21 AM PDT by detective
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To: digger48
Unions would be happy with a 30 hour work week--so long as they get paid for 40. I think that's how it works in France.
42 posted on 07/13/2013 10:08:22 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: george76

They don’t want the law changed. They want waivers and special dispensations.


43 posted on 07/13/2013 10:09:13 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

“Racist!” the one size fits all expletive for anyone opposing anything the fascist does. It took the America haters decades of work to achieve this.


44 posted on 07/13/2013 10:09:31 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: george76
Dear Unions, you've made your bed and it sure looks comfy. Nighty-night and sleep tight.
45 posted on 07/13/2013 10:14:14 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: okie01
Recall that, in Wisconsin, once the state no longer had to deal with an insurance company that was owned by the teacher's union, health insurance costs for teachers dropped about 30%.

Wonder what the loyal union teachers had to say about that?

46 posted on 07/13/2013 10:15:45 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: george76

obama will say “The law is now changed” and that’ll be it. “Let it be said. Let it be done. The King’s word is law.”


47 posted on 07/13/2013 10:15:52 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: george76

Hmmm! You reap what you sow! Stop whining union members. You voted for Zero.


48 posted on 07/13/2013 10:20:50 AM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 83)
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To: Aria
Wonder what the loyal union teachers had to say about that?

I don't think the media has asked them.

On the other hand, the union has lost over half their members...

49 posted on 07/13/2013 10:22:22 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: george76

Out here in Wino Country, small businesses, medium size businesses and some large businesses/with stores across the nation or region are limiting their employees to 30 hours per week.

Some of these businesses are helping their 30 hour employees to find work with another employee.

Of course basically no one working for these companies have health insurance.

One family, we know has a 30 something daughter with limited mental capabilities. She is an excellent employee, and the company she works for cut her hours to 30 hours. Her cobra costs would are over $900 per month, and her parents are now covering that. Her boss got her another job with another company for 30 hours with no benefits.

I have posted before about working young singles and couples opting out insurance with the incredible increases this year due to Obama care. Many are paying cash at a Doctor’s office, when they or a child needs to see a doctor. Not only did the costs on their insurance policies have big increases, their yearly deductibles went out of sight.

My wife knows of working couples in their late 40’s to mid 60’s, who have opted for concierge care out of their pocket as the $1800-$2400 deductible per person/year is as expensive or more expensive than concierge care.

Of course the only thing the gay media covers in Californicator land is the wonderful gay marriage bs.


50 posted on 07/13/2013 10:30:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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