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Posted on 07/13/2013 2:11:12 AM PDT by lbryce
Your little purist law would be struck down even quicker?
What do ya do then? What can ya do?
you must be aware that I am out of power here in CT. And the half dozen folks I’ve helped elect to the CT state House are out of power, too, as they are part of a small minority party.
You are demanding that people do something that you, yourself, have not done. When the people of Iowa elect a majority to the state House who are Constitutionalists-of-old, we will all know that it was EV that did it and you will surely be given the credit.
I’m sorry you can’t see the difference between keeping your oath to support the Constitution no matter what anyone else may or may not do, and what Obama does, which is to ignore the oath, ignore the Constitution, and do anything he wants.
Follow the Constitution. Keep the oath. Provide equal protection for the supreme God-given UNALIENABLE right, the right to live.
It's so simple.
We’ve elected a small handful, enough to block the immoral, unconstitutional phony “and then you can kill the baby” bills like this one in Texas. But sadly, there are too many as yet who fail to recognize that they are proving Einstein’s definition of insanity.
A small handful won’t do. You need a working majority, which only happens if you have allies.
Until then, remember, on roll calls that are 65 yes 35 no, the “no’s” get ZERO. Same in elections: the constitutionalist who ran here and got 27% of the vote, gets ZERO. “Winner take all” system is what we got.
Meanwhile, the squishy RINOs and fake pro-family DEMS who voted ‘no’ on Same-Sex Civil Unions back in 2005 ... they still live on in the legilature ... should be purge them to make room for more progressives?
But it’s not really that simple is it? Because the fallout and consequences won’t be as you predict them. All that the other side will do is say - they do it, so we can do it. They will find whatever ‘constitutional’ justification they need to do it. Remember all our federal bills require this, and the libs find justification every time.
You’re basing your strategy on Marxist/Alinsky purity tactics. You can spout purity principles all you want, but with a certified and formidable opposition trying to oppose and undo everything we do, nothing in your fantasical scenario is going to work as you say it will. You’re simply drawing lines in the sand you can’t enforce.
Wrong. I’m simply saying that the oath to support the Constitution must be kept, or we in fact have no more free republic.
The idea that that is somehow Marxist/Alinsky is laughable.
It’s even funnier in light of the fact that you yourself have been (crudely) using truly Alinksyite tactics against me right on this very thread.
You do understand that if Texas passed a complete ban on abortions it would be overturned by a Federal Judge before midnight on the same day it passed?
And yet another Alinsky tactic! Accuse your opposition of what you’re doing! Hilarious. We’re using Alinsky tactics pointing out your Alinsky tactics. Nice twisty lawyer doublespeak there.
You have no path on how to get from Point A to Point B, nor do you deal with the fallout of ‘keeping their oath to support the Constitution’. Your ‘arguments’ are simply academic cocktail napkin discussions that can’t be applied in the real world due to the fact we’re so far from your perfect vision of things that the fallout from your proposed actions will not be the effect you intend. Your prescriptions are fantasies and and levers connected to nothing and have no applicational value in the system as it stands today.
“You don’t “get your nose in the tent” by sacrificing the only moral, constitutional, and legal arguments there are against the practice of abortion. You’re throwing the whole tent on the campfire.”
I agree with you 100%, however the tent is already on fire. Maybe, just maybe this throws some water on it. I wish that we got it all, but we didn’t.
The possibility of closing 76 of 80 abortion clinics is a start.
But EV gets ever so much more attention by being this way.
:o)
“Or what woman, if she has ten silver coins and loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? “When she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin which I had lost!’ “In the same way, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
Luke 15:4-10I think it is a safe bet to save those 20+ weeks and older. And then 19 weeks, and then 18 weeks, and on until all the unborn are protected at conception.
We can be joyous at saving those we can now and continue to work to save the rest.
Your reasoning is like that of a man upon dropping a $5 bill in a porta-john throws his Rolex in the hole too because it isn't good enough to reach in the muck over just $5.
A federal judge recently overturned the Wisconsin pro-life statute the same day it was signed.
It was identical to the Texas 20-week statute.
Oddly, twelve other states already have such a law in place -- and SCOTUS approved of the first one (Nebraska).
It's still necessary for any "infringement" on "the right to murder your baby" to run the pro-abort legal gauntlet, however.
Before you get all huffy,here is the deal.
If they pass the law you want a federal judge will throw it out the minuite Perry signs it. Then it's back to square ONE,and ALL the unborn chidren will be sacrificed on the alter of abortion.
he wants the state of TX to defy the federal courts ... which is fine ... but the followers of A.L.L. are not willing to be active in state government to see such an action take place. Easy chair quarterbacks of A.L.L.
You pretty much nailed it. There is a whole faction in this state (Iowa). They get up on soap boxes and scream about how every bill is not perfect, to create a Marxist action/reaction scenario and get a following. Yet they never accomplish a damn thing except get money and attention from it. It’s quite the racket.
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