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Dozens killed in Egyptian clashes
WTAE-TV website Pittsburgh/CNN ^ | 07/08/2013 | Carl Penhaul and Ed Payne

Posted on 07/08/2013 1:16:30 AM PDT by prisoner6

CAIRO (CNN) —The Egyptian military opened fire on supporters of the deposed president, Mohamed Morsy, and the Muslim Brotherhood, early Monday, killing more than 30 people.

The health ministry put the number of fatalities at 34, and said 200 others were wounded.

CNN counted at least eight bullet-riddled bodies and up to 40 wounded at the chaotic emergency facility in the Egyptian capital, down the street from the site of the shooting. The upper bodies of the victims appeared to be peppered with shotgun pellets and bullet wounds.

Doctors tended to the victims, performing surgeries in many cases before shipping them out to other facilities. Egyptian flags were draped over those who did not survive.

Read more: http://www.wtae.com/news/national/witnesses-egyptian-forces-open-fire-on-crowd/-/9681152/20872046/-/94nvo4z/-/index.html#ixzz2YRKkjIv5

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: egypt; egyptcoup; egyptmb; islam; mb; morsi; morsy; muslimbrotherhood; ptolemy
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1 posted on 07/08/2013 1:16:30 AM PDT by prisoner6
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To: prisoner6

Why do muslim fanatics deem martyrdom desirable/admirable when they are killed attacking infidels but not so when they are killed by their fellow muslim fanatic?


2 posted on 07/08/2013 1:26:54 AM PDT by South40
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To: prisoner6
In these radical Islamic countries who aren’t even respecting basic human rights, where both sides are slaughtering each other as they scream over an arbitrary red line, ‘Allah Akbar,’ I say until we have someone who knows what they’re doing, I say, let Allah sort it out.

Sarah Palin is spot on as always.

3 posted on 07/08/2013 1:27:12 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: prisoner6
No, this really happened.

The Muslims love provoking troops to fire upon them, in this way they get media attention, inspire the wrath of other Muslim nut cases and get to go to Heaven for those 77? virgins. What a great deal, become a “SHAHID” (Martyr) AND get the virgins as well.

They love this kind of action and provoked it on purpose.

It is hard for a Westerner to understand the mindset but both the Pro and Anti-Morsi people (if you can call them that) understand the rules of the engagement.

The Pro-Morsi people know what they're doing while the Army understands the game too, so, they shoot to kill the “protesters”.

Don't get too flustered by the 37 killed and 200 wounded, it's all fun and games for these savages. Hopefully the numbers will climb to 500,000 killed and 3.7 million wounded. They love it!

Look all over the region, bloodshed and martyrdom is their way of life so let them keep shedding their own blood, by their own hand and leave the rest of us alone.

4 posted on 07/08/2013 1:33:04 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: South40
It is always good to die as a Martyr (SHAHID) because you can always claim that the folks who sent you to heaven were the tool of an Infidel or related to an infidel or a cousin of an infidel or a member of a corrupt regime sponsored by the infidel...in other words you can always justify being martyred via some infidel connection. Maybe a Sunni things a Shiite is an infidel too?
5 posted on 07/08/2013 1:38:49 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: prisoner6

A lot of this is agitprop and we are not getting the full story.

Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.1 The Ikwhan Strikes Back: Deadly “Day of Rejection”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3039526/posts


6 posted on 07/08/2013 1:51:27 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Netz

It’s pretty similar, tactically, to what Lenin once said; “The worse, the better.”

The Bolsheviks would provoke some kind of incident and then utilize the ensuing crackdown - which followed as surely as night follows day - to recruit people to their cause.


7 posted on 07/08/2013 1:59:44 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: MestaMachine
These scum must have a special book or an Appendix at the end of the Koran where there is a list of outrage terms and definitions. You know, when a “Day of Rage” is used and under what conditions. The Muslims have along list of GRIEVANCES against themselves and the rest of the world. Here are a few:

Day of Rage - General protest against X for X doing something bad against Islam or Arab society.

Day of Resistance - Violent protest to vent anger at X.

Day of NAKBA - The catastrophe of Israel's creation in 1948.

Day of KAKSA - The setback of the Israeli victory in the 1967 Six Day War.

Day or Period of HUDNA - A fake truce as long as the Islamic side is weak in any conflict with a non-Muslim.

Period of Resistance - Term used by Hezbollah in Southern Lebanon to justify their military takeover of all of southern Lebanon, supposedly to oppose the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon which ended in 2000.
The resistance continues against Israel...forever until she leaves the “Occupied Territories...wait which ones? 1967, 1956, 1948, 1937, 1917..OK, I get it ALL OF ISRAEL.

Partner [for peace] - a ploy where the Muslim Arab pretends to negotiate in good faith but really planning to kill the Infidel ASAP. Used brilliantly by Arafart and Abu Mazen.

“Two-State solution” - Current term used to establish an PLO state next to Israel in order to speed up Israel's demise. This great solution put forward by the “I don't have a clue” Americans is really a rehash of the UN 1947 Partition for Palestine” plan which, of course was rejected by the Arabs (no such thing yet as Palestinians).

The Arab grievance is always a high priority in their lives because they have nothing else except miserable, lowly lives and terminal hemmroids. They're always revolting and they smell like it too.

So, you see, they never really need and official reason for violence and mayhem, it's all in the playbook, Koran.

8 posted on 07/08/2013 2:07:53 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
Some tactics never go out of style. The Russians at least wanted to live, most of the time. The Muslims prefer death.

Interesting that there are ALWAYS global Muslim flareups as we approach their “Holy” month of Ramadan.

The world needs to be on alert now because as loony as they are most of the year round, during the month of Ramadan they are crazier AND HUNGRY too.

Imagine not eating or drinking all day, in the cruel Middle Eastern sun, no booze, no babes, nothing except Allah HuAkbar and an AK-47.

What are you going to do with yourself? You fast during the day, rape women and launch a civil war? Just for fun.

Can you blame the poor diddums?

9 posted on 07/08/2013 2:25:29 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: prisoner6

It looks more likely that a civil war is likely.


10 posted on 07/08/2013 3:15:51 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: re_nortex

Yup this disaster was determined with the removal of Mubarak and nothing good is in the future of Egypt for a while.


11 posted on 07/08/2013 3:41:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Netz

I have a friend from India who filled me in on Ramdamadingalong. Sure they fast during the day but they eat like pigs as soon as the sun goes down. If I had a big old steak, a loaded baked potato, a salad and a couple of slices of apple pie, I could probably stand to miss the next couple of meals without any problem.


12 posted on 07/08/2013 3:44:58 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

But it is not just about stuffing your face or the quantity one eats.
These folks are not on diets like Westerners, they have just enough to eat but I was trying to drive home the point that Ramadan is a tense period in general only to be exacerbated by strife, conflict and civil war.

Last year, I saw a picture of Syrian “rebels” sitting down to a Ramadan break fast meal. The long communal table was decorated with plates, salads and lamb but the centerpiece on that table, every 2 meters were a teepee rack of AK-47s...just in case they had to interrupt their meal with some warfare...


13 posted on 07/08/2013 3:51:44 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: cripplecreek
The disaster started with the warrior/peace-maker, Sadat was murdered on 6 October 1981 by the MB.

Interesting point, Sadat was attending a parade marking their so-called “Glorious Victory” over Israel (even though they were badly beaten and humiliated by he end of the war) in 1973.

A few days ago, Egyptian was killing Egyptian or trying to kill each other on what bridge over the Nile????? The October 6th bridge!

Ironic, no?

14 posted on 07/08/2013 4:01:21 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: prisoner6

Good news but can the American press spell correctly today? They can’t even get the al qaeda dictator’s name spelled correctly.

LLS


15 posted on 07/08/2013 4:39:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
“The Bolsheviks would provoke some kind of incident and then utilize the ensuing crackdown - which followed as surely as night follows day - to recruit people to their cause.”

That's the Weather Underground playbook too.

What is also in the playbook is when they are in power they will do the same thing, incite an incident, then use the power of the state in full force to suppress the “rebellion”.

16 posted on 07/08/2013 5:26:33 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: prisoner6

Send Odumbo over there and let him do another Cairo Speech That will solve everything (Yeah right - just inflame them some more).


17 posted on 07/08/2013 5:44:07 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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18 posted on 07/08/2013 5:47:24 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Netz

You summed it up quite nicely.


19 posted on 07/08/2013 5:55:27 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: prisoner6
One medieval,knuckledragging,pig fornicating filthbag...one bullet.That's what I always say.
20 posted on 07/08/2013 6:07:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: prisoner6

Oh yeah, here come out all the stops for Morsi... ‘Bullet ridden bodies’ are suddenly something to use as a description, unlike anti-government protesters who died ‘while attacking troops.’

Human rights folks condemning the military, while ignoring the nearly 5 times the casualties from anti-Morsi protests... And of course, the photos switch to troops standing in a line, vs pre-Morsi removal where it was pictures of angry men.

But the crowning touch? Now the hospital apparently has a stash of Egyptian flags to place over the bodies, rather than body bags... Or probably more accurately, another made up fact for a CNN report. Oh, I’m not saying that Egyptian flags aren’t ending up on bodies, just sincerely doubt that the hospital is the one doing it.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 7:25:22 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Biggirl

Real revolutions aren’t easy.


22 posted on 07/08/2013 7:26:24 AM PDT by Augustinian monk ("BUSHES WITHOUT BORDERS")
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To: prisoner6

Obama HAD to have his Muslim Brotherhood..


23 posted on 07/08/2013 7:34:51 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: All; kristinn; penelopesire; holdonnow; sneakers; rush; Hannity

Pro Morsi demos threaten al Sisi, burning of Christians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZWD75G_VpI


24 posted on 07/08/2013 7:40:49 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. Penance. Isa 5:18-21 Isa 10:1-3)
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To: prisoner6
Few of the current reports in the news are even touching on "why" the military opened fire. here's whayt they say:

The military said it was forced to fire when an "armed terrorist group" tried to raid the headquarters. An Interior Ministry statement said two security force members -- a lieutenant and a recruit -- were shot and killed.

The Egyptian military has shown remarkable restraint over the last couple of years in all of this. It would seem apparent that spomething other than large crowds, even large crowds throwing things and fighting with others, provoked the military.

Someone opening fire on and killing the military personnel would certainly do it.

Now, the Muslim Bortherhood is already calling this the "Cairo Massacre."

It's obvious that the military was provoked, probably by the MB themselves, and they did it in a crowded protest so they could ensure a high body count.

The MSM will not report this...and you can ebt Obama will trot someone out, perhaps kerry, maybe even himself, to talk about the brutal Egyptian military that hijacked democracy in Egypt.

What was hijacked was Obama's disasterous, fundamental ISlamic agenda, and it was hijacked by the Egyptian people themselves, supported by their military.

Watch this video:

An Egyptian Anti-Morsi Protestor sends a message to America

25 posted on 07/08/2013 7:48:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: South40

Just as the Muslim Brotherhood planned. Cause a violent clash, get some supporters killed and look like a victim. Works almost every time in the Middle East.

Would not be surprised if the deaths were actually caused directly by Muslim Brotherhood “militia” firing on their own supporters.


26 posted on 07/08/2013 8:15:52 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: prisoner6
Pro-Morsi demonstrators threaten Egyptian army chief el-Sisi with suicide bombers and burning Christians
27 posted on 07/08/2013 8:16:59 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Jeff Head
What was hijacked was Obama's disasterous, fundamental Islamic agenda, and it was hijacked by the Egyptian people themselves ...


28 posted on 07/08/2013 8:21:03 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: re_nortex

Mursi supporters killed a Christian priest and burned down the homes of Christians all over Egypt this weekend. Where’s that story? 200,000 Christians have been forced to leave Egypt because of Mursi this year and Obama and Hillary are silent.


29 posted on 07/08/2013 8:25:31 AM PDT by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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Surely hope Egypt gets back on track, quickly. Too many beautiful people there and far too many historic sites for there to be long term disruption.


30 posted on 07/08/2013 8:50:19 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: prisoner6
Crazy country.
31 posted on 07/08/2013 9:54:32 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: prisoner6

Obama’s Egypt


32 posted on 07/08/2013 11:19:44 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Netz

Need to stock up on those bullets (made in the USA)that have pork infused into the ballistic paint...

teeheehee


33 posted on 07/08/2013 11:20:52 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: prisoner6

It’s nice to have a civil war going on where I can cheer on each side with equal amounts of gusto!


34 posted on 07/08/2013 1:05:42 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Netz

Can we then say that the Egyptian Army is simply doing mercy killing with a certain benevolent flavor to it? Just so they don’t create a virgin shortage. Wouldn’t want mohamed to have to share a virgin sheep. I’m still not seeing a problem with these boneheads murdering each other. As long as they are working their way back to the 8th century they have a little less horsepower for causing us grief. They can let us know when they are ready to civilize.


35 posted on 07/08/2013 1:20:35 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: prisoner6

How many of the bullets fired by the military were in response to shooting from the MB jihadists? We have seen the latter shooting at people in several videos.


36 posted on 07/08/2013 1:57:41 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Netz; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ASA Vet; Travis McGee

‘It is always good to die as a Martyr (SHAHID) because you can always claim that the folks who sent you to heaven were the tool of an Infidel or related to an infidel or a cousin of an infidel or a member of a corrupt regime sponsored by the infidel...in other words you can always justify being martyred via some infidel connection. Maybe a Sunni things a Shiite is an infidel too?’

An 18-year-old suicide bomber blew himself up and appeared before Allah.

He said, “Oh, Allah, I did your bidding, but I have a request. Since I’m only 18 and spent all my time in terrorist training school, I never was with a woman. So, instead of 72 virgins, can I have 72 prostitutes?”

Allah regarded him for a moment, then replied, “Actually, the 72 virgins are here in heaven because people like you murdered them before they could experience the pleasure of sex. So you’re here to service them. Since they’re virgins, they’re quite sexually hungry; and frankly, you’ll be on a constant and very exhausting duty.”

The bomber responded, “Well, I guess I can live with that. How hard can it be to keep 72 women satisfied for all eternity?”

Allah replied quizzing, “Who told you they were women?”


37 posted on 07/08/2013 2:56:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Having a discussion with liberals is like shearing pigs. Lots of squealing & little fleece!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Exactly!

I know people in the Egyptian military and Americans who have trained them.

The Egyptian military is prepared for this. After seeing the HUGE outpouring and demonstrations against Morsi, they acted and are doing so with the backing of the people.

If Morsi’s supporters and the Muslim Brotherhood push them...they will absolutely eradicate them. They will not play “footsies” with them or try to have ROEs that attempt to “make friends.”

They know what is at stake, and saw where it was going. Morsi was supporting Al Quida and the Al Quida rebeles in Syria and Libya. He was closing ranks with Hamas and preparing for war with Israel.

The Egyptian military and most people in Egypt do not want to go there, and will not go there. They know what it is likely to mean. They will fight the Islamic extremists and Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt first, and eradicate them before they let that happen.

This is what we are seeing in Egypt...and it is likely that these Islamic extremists will push it to a fight...one they will lose because I do not believe the Egyptian military will fight with kid gloves or with one armed tied behind their back.

A strong, in your face, and abject example needs to be made of these radical terrorists and Egypt has the means, and I believe the will, to do so. I pray they do...and set Obama and his cohorts, abettors, and handlers back by decades and give us time to regroup here and show them all the door ourselves.

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38 posted on 07/08/2013 4:32:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Netz

You may have identified Islam’s fatal flaw. Hatred begets hatred, and they wallow in it.


39 posted on 07/08/2013 6:11:20 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: prisoner6

If Muslims truly want to die as martyrs, then why aren’t they happy when they get killed?

I believe it’s because they truly don’t want to die as much as they want to kill. Getting shot down doesn’t fulfill killing in the name of Muhammed, so they are unfulfilled.


40 posted on 07/08/2013 6:35:51 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: PA-RIVER

I wish it was fatal but there are so many of the little buggers that it would take a disaster of Biblical proportion to finish them off. In the meantime, they slit each others throats, eventually they will come for ours. All we can do now is encourage them to keep killing themselves for a few thousand years. I am actually banking on the Chinese to finish Islam off in another 80 years or so.


41 posted on 07/08/2013 10:29:45 PM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: Netz
"So, you see, they never really need and official reason for violence and mayhem, it's all in the playbook, Koran."

Of course it is. "Kill all those who don't believe".

42 posted on 07/09/2013 12:19:02 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: prisoner6

Cool. Kill each other.


43 posted on 07/13/2013 12:16:22 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: South40
"Why do muslim fanatics deem martyrdom desirable/admirable when they are killed attacking infidels but not so when they are killed by their fellow muslim fanatic?"

It's a Shia/Sunni thing within the Islam theocracy. Kinda like the difference between a Catholic and Protestant. Catholics go to heaven; Protestants are supposedly not welcomed, according to the Catholic Church. Not to say that Christians are like Islamists. Just letting you know the difference. As for me, let them kill each other all they want. Keeps them busy so they don't attack Western civilization.

Personally, I have no use for any organized religion - never had. Who really knows what is behind this Universe? I'm an agnostic. Although, will say, that Christians are some of the nicest and most tolerant people I've known. I live my life according to most Judeo/Christian morality beliefs. The same beliefs that founded this great nation.

44 posted on 07/13/2013 12:31:08 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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