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Female inmates sterilized in California prisons without approval
News 10 | July 07, 2013

Posted on 07/08/2013 1:03:07 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

Link and title only. [Gannett]


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: noinformedconsent; nojustice; obamacare; obamatyranny
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To: Slings and Arrows

The top medical manager at Valley State Prison from 2005 to 2008 characterized the surgeries as an empowerment issue for female inmates, providing them the same options as women on the outside. Daun Martin, a licensed psychologist, also claimed that some pregnant women, particularly those on drugs or who were homeless, would commit crimes so they could return to prison for better health care.

“Do I criticize those women for manipulating the system because they’re pregnant? Absolutely not,” said Martin, 73. “But I don’t think it should happen. And I’d like to find ways to decrease that.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/07/07/5549696/female-inmates-sterilized-in-california.html#storylink=cpy

So they don’t want them getting free healthcare.


21 posted on 07/08/2013 11:01:41 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

*facepalm*


22 posted on 07/08/2013 11:06:26 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Good reminder that the Bible is always a perfect source for truthful information. Praise the Lord.


23 posted on 07/08/2013 1:03:49 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Ping.


24 posted on 07/08/2013 1:17:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
know that a lot of the victims were probably people that we wouldn't want to breed, but keep something in mind: The Leftists would be happy to see us all in prison, and they've noticed that we outbreed them.

The fact is, the type of people who got sterilized are the ones who outbreed the rest of "us," and who always throw their political support behind "them." So if it's a grand eugenic plot by the Left, they have their targets all wrong.

25 posted on 07/08/2013 2:12:39 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: EBH
They’d rather practice eugenics than dis-incentive the welfare system that encourages these women to have babies for dollars

Our welfare system has been dysgenic (reverse eugenic) from the get-go by creating financial incentives for the worst dregs of society to have the most children.

26 posted on 07/08/2013 2:14:21 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Chickensoup
It seems they did not give informed consent; nor was there a medical indication.

Without written informed consent, it's battery (Link)

Even if they call it choice.

27 posted on 07/08/2013 2:27:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Only an arrogant legal culture ... could take such a suggestion seriously." - Justice Alito)
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To: Slings and Arrows; little jeremiah; narses

28 posted on 07/08/2013 2:58:45 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: SgtHooper
Ah hell, they consented by going to jail.

Congratulations, you just summed up what is wrong with the entire planet, moron.

29 posted on 07/08/2013 3:24:22 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Bobalu

It sounds like the practice the Third Reich copied from the United States.

If true, this is hardly something new for California.


30 posted on 07/08/2013 3:25:28 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Slings and Arrows

Many socialist, political/regulator class folks are in favor of eugenics, because they want to prevent competition for their fat, government-derived incomes from debt/revenues.


31 posted on 07/08/2013 4:19:57 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Bobalu
Just because Adolph did something doesn't make it evil!

Good highways and trains running on time are not evil.

What's wrong with sterilizing welfare recipients after their first child? I would force them to love and care for their offspring rather than look at them as how many numbers of checks they can force the Gibsmedat to write out.

You may think me cruel. Put yourself in the shoes of a child welfare SLAVE! What kind of outlook on life do they have? Momma created me for another 500 bucks a month?

Go on call me cruel.

32 posted on 07/08/2013 4:34:25 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: familyop

Or to breed a prole that can never rebel.


33 posted on 07/08/2013 5:59:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: markomalley

I’m sure she’s grinning in h*ll.


34 posted on 07/08/2013 6:00:37 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Lots of stupid people on Free Republic.

Read the dang headline, folks: “Female inmates sterilized in California prisons without approval.”

What information is missing? “... without approval OF THE STATE.”

The “female inmates” wanted the procedure. The state, however, didn’t explicitly provide their “approval.”

Sheesh, buncha idiots taking over FR.


35 posted on 07/08/2013 6:05:44 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

They’ve got the weapon; they just haven’t figured out the right target.


36 posted on 07/08/2013 6:07:15 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: rawcatslyentist; Bobalu
No, rawcats, I won't call you cruel. I'll call you short-sighted.

Sterilization is maiming, in the literal dictionary sense: it's a destructive act intended to disable.

It is not wrong to spay a dog, or to neuter a cat, but that is because they are irrational creatures unable to control their sex instinct. This is not true of human beings, who have a mind and a will, and, in that respect, bear some trace of the image and likeness of God. It is a sacrilege and a barbarity to maim them, these fellow-creatures with human hearts and souls, and human responsibilities.

A better option might be to punish fornication and require just restitution of child-raising costs from the fly-by-night inseminators. Paying their debt to society --- hell, paying their debt to their own offspring --- might after all spark thoughts about the serious implications of paternity.

We could put them to work planting trees and building homes in the aftermath of our annual Western wildfires. Working in mines (bring back coal, for Pete's sake!) Building the Great Wall of TexMexia at our southern border.

There's plenty of work. There's meaning in working for your family: there's dignity in it. Moreso than chop-chop with the knife.

37 posted on 07/08/2013 6:07:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The story of the human race is the story of men and women selling themselves short." Abraham Maslow)
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To: Theo

1. It’s called “informed consent,” not “succumbing to constant pressure from the people who hold your life and freedom in their hands.”

2. Some inmates have denied that any level of consent was given.


38 posted on 07/08/2013 6:10:57 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>"they are irrational creatures unable to control their sex instinct. This is not true of human beings"

33-year-old man has 22 kids 2:06

Somebody Needs To Pay For My Kids! 8:23


Uh huh..... NOT IT!

39 posted on 07/08/2013 6:18:41 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Full disclosure: my brother was incentivized to get a vasectomy by the State. It’s a good thing that he took the money.


40 posted on 07/08/2013 6:33:48 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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