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Lead investigator: Zimmerman may have exaggerated his injuries
NBC News ^ | 07/03/2013 | James Novogrod, Tom Winter and Elizabeth Chuck

Posted on 07/03/2013 2:02:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The lead investigator for George Zimmerman’s case testified on Tuesday that he believes Zimmerman may have exaggerated the manner in which he was injured during the confrontation that resulted in Trayvon Martin’s death last year.

Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the death of the 17-year-old unarmed teenager, has pleaded not guilty, claiming Martin attacked him on Feb. 26, 2012, in the gated Sanford, Fla., community where the two encountered each other. Martin died of a single gunshot wound; Zimmerman was photographed by police that night with a bloody, swollen nose and wounds to the back of the head.

Zimmerman alleges Martin straddled him after punching him in the nose and banged his head repeatedly against the sidewalk, warning him before Zimmerman fired a shot at him, “You’re going to die tonight.”

On Tuesday, Chris Serino, the lead investigator in Zimmerman’s case, took the stand for a second day and testified that based on Zimmerman’s statements following the teen’s death, he felt Zimmerman may have been exaggerating the manner in which he was injured.

“You felt he was exaggerating certain parts of it?” prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda asked Serino.

“Among other things,” Serino said.

“Did you feel he exaggerated the manner in which he was hit?” De La Rionda asked.

“Yes, sir,” Serino responded.

When questioned later during cross-examination, Serino added he believed Zimmerman could have exaggerated the number of times he was punched or hit.

The back-and-forth on the stand followed testimony Monday during which Serino told the court he believed Zimmerman was relieved after being told by investigators last year – falsely – that video may exist of the shooting. Serino had testified on Monday that he tried to bluff Zimmerman about the existence of a video to provoke a reaction and gauge Zimmerman’s assertion

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/03/2013 2:02:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Must have been fake blood, and a fake broken nose....

Yeah....dats de ticket!


2 posted on 07/03/2013 2:03:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ignore the photos. Ignore the witness who recounts MMA-style punching, which already means multiple blows.

Try not to imagine yourself in Zimmerman’s position, having your face pounded in and your head cracked.

The prosecution is shameful.


3 posted on 07/03/2013 2:04:57 PM PDT by marron
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To: SeekAndFind
From now on the victim of an ultimate fighting style beat down is required to have an MRI and a note signed by two doctors trained in trauma medicine (sorry, no dermatologists) before being allowed to use force to defend himself.
4 posted on 07/03/2013 2:05:20 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: marron

I hope this prosecution is not symptomatic of the people of FL, but I wonder.


5 posted on 07/03/2013 2:05:41 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: SeekAndFind
Whatever, dude.

It was still assault-and-battery.

6 posted on 07/03/2013 2:05:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Serino told the court he believed Zimmerman was relieved after being told by investigators last year – falsely – that video may exist of the shooting. Serino had testified on Monday that he tried to bluff Zimmerman about the existence of a video to provoke a reaction and gauge Zimmerman’s assertion

And Z was relieved thinking there was a video to vindicate
his story.

Why is this farce continuing?


7 posted on 07/03/2013 2:06:36 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind
after being told by investigators last year – falsely – that video may exist

Why you need a lawyer with you when you speak to the police.

8 posted on 07/03/2013 2:07:09 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Theodore R.

Not FL Freepers, that’s for sure.

We do not count the Snowbirds among our own.


9 posted on 07/03/2013 2:07:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope people do realize that that GZ injuries really have nothing to do with this case.

If GZ was injured enough to believe TM was going to kill him, then that is what matters.


10 posted on 07/03/2013 2:08:00 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What difference does it make?

What matters is whether GZ thought his life was in danger.

In the position he was in, St. Skittles could have whipped out a knife and dispatched GZ in less than a second.

Z had no idea what his attacker was packing.


11 posted on 07/03/2013 2:08:11 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Zman’s head had more tennis ball sized lumps than could be counted. His lumps had lumps. That’s why the SPD took all those photo’s from so many angles. They couldn’t count them all either.


12 posted on 07/03/2013 2:08:55 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the back of your head is on the ground it’s rougher on your face when you get hit because there is no give.

When you have your head picked up off the ground a couple of inches it’s not as rough on the face because there is some give but the back of your head gets it.

When your head is up and your hit it only takes one punch to put you out of it.


13 posted on 07/03/2013 2:11:24 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: SeekAndFind

If exaggeration is a crime, better include the Obama administration and approximately 535 members of congress to the indictment.


14 posted on 07/03/2013 2:11:55 PM PDT by Temujinshordes
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To: IMR 4350

Zimmermans nose wasn’t broken as much as it appeared in the photo. Yeh, the prosecutor is a moron.


15 posted on 07/03/2013 2:16:53 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let me guess media..Zimmerman pounded his own head into the concrete for WOW factor..the media just can’t bring themselves to admit their angel Trayvon was a thug who lived like one and died like one


16 posted on 07/03/2013 2:20:12 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

In a split second more Zimmerman could of had his head cracked open.


17 posted on 07/03/2013 2:21:09 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not sure how may folks have suffered impacts on the head, but they are very jolting. It may be true that the impact wasn’t as bad as Zimmerman thought, but who would know for sure.

It feels like you’re really being damaged. You haven’t had this type of experience on a regular basis. You have nothing you can compare it to.

It feels like you’re in serious danger. In fact you may be, if only the guy uses a bit more force. Adrenalin is pumping, everyone’s excited, why not take a chance Mr. Zimmerman, it’s only your life cracker?

Is there a rational mind out there these days? Sure doesn’t seem like it.


18 posted on 07/03/2013 2:22:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: SeekAndFind

White boy sure do bleed alot.


19 posted on 07/03/2013 2:22:52 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah, so speculation IS allowed if it helps the prosecution! Glad to clear that up.


20 posted on 07/03/2013 2:24:17 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Old news stay current with Uncle Chips daily thread


21 posted on 07/03/2013 2:24:27 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: SeekAndFind

Injury. Matters not for self defence. Besides St. Tray said Sin was going to be a dead man.


22 posted on 07/03/2013 2:25:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Berlin_Freeper

23 posted on 07/03/2013 2:28:29 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: marron
-- The prosecution is shameful. --

So is the press. But for the press, the charges would not have been brought. And the press is still grossly misleading about, among other things, the contents of trial testimony.

24 posted on 07/03/2013 2:30:39 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind
It does not matter how badly he was injured. If he was attacked then he was allowed to defend himself.

We are not required to allow ourselves to be seriously injured or halfway killed before defending ourselves.

25 posted on 07/03/2013 2:31:41 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hogwash, the severity of injuries was no indicator of what he was risking if he allowed things to continue.


26 posted on 07/03/2013 2:32:22 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought GZ told police that Martin had bashed his head into the sidewalk 2-3 times. True or false?


27 posted on 07/03/2013 2:35:01 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: dforest

I can only suggest that those who think the beating was no big deal be willing to take it themselves. See how many volunteer.


28 posted on 07/03/2013 2:39:36 PM PDT by freedomrings69
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To: re_nortex

DON’T FORGET- THOSE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN MOMENTS AFTER IT ALL HAPPENED ON THE SCENE - BY A CELL PHONE FROM THE FIRST WITNESS TO ARRIVE


29 posted on 07/03/2013 2:40:43 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: tet68

So the investigator lied to the victim and says that the victim may have been inaccurate in his account of the number of times he was pounded?


30 posted on 07/03/2013 2:43:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: freedomrings69

“It’s not like Trayvon Martin was WATERBOARDING Mr. Zimmerman!!!” < /liberal logic >


31 posted on 07/03/2013 2:44:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I like how Zimmerman was truthful to the police in the police station that night, yet the police lied their asses off to Zimmerman.

Look who is on trial.


32 posted on 07/03/2013 2:45:06 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SeekAndFind

33 posted on 07/03/2013 2:46:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind

I loved the female ME “expert”testimony that said Zimmerman’s injuries were a not as bad as they were made out.

The last time she had a broken nose and lacerations on the back of her head that needed stitches was probably her wedding night.


34 posted on 07/03/2013 2:47:56 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: JoeProBono

SYG is not in play. It’s simple self defense.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 2:47:58 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: JoeProBono

B U M P


36 posted on 07/03/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Cyman

That ME did not examine GZ, she looked at photos.

The severity of the wounds does not matter. There is no physical evidence that GZ assaulted TM. There is physical evidence the TM assaulted GZ. It is simple self defense.


37 posted on 07/03/2013 2:50:21 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: marron

They also conveniently leave out the part where Trayvon saw Zimmerman’s pistol and started going for it - Z would have probably taken that beating until the cops got there were it not for that one little detail that forced Z to try to defend himself. The Race Warriors aided and abetted by CNN/NBC/ABC/CBS will have their vengeance. Truth be damned.

I am really angry with Michael Savage and his little rant last night that he thinks Zimmerman is guilty for reasons that just aren’t true. If you are going to take a position, do the research, Savage - he allows no way to contact him by email.


38 posted on 07/03/2013 2:51:13 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: SeekAndFind

If you’re bleeding, its a serious injury


39 posted on 07/03/2013 2:52:12 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: spawn44

I’ve had more than one down like that and I don’t think I ever went for the nose.

If your head is up off the ground, one good hit to your forehead will pretty much put you out of it.

If not from the punch itself from the back of your head hitting solid ground.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 2:53:29 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Ray76

41 posted on 07/03/2013 2:54:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m not sure how may folks have suffered impacts on the head, but they are very jolting.

Been knocked out 3 times in my life. Ain't going to let some zombie make contact with my head if I have a choice.

End of last Griffith Paret fight with commentary

Guy on the ropes died 10 days later. Trayvon was no Griffith but he was in a position to use his body weight to smash Zimmerman's head in.

42 posted on 07/03/2013 2:56:32 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Fresh Wind

Z knew that T saw the pistol and was going for it. I think that was when Z really knew he had to defend his own life. Z was carrying a little Keltech, hardly the weapon of a Vigilante Racist.


43 posted on 07/03/2013 2:57:50 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: JoeProBono

Haha! Yeah. Good one. Such nonsense.


44 posted on 07/03/2013 2:59:14 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: SeekAndFind

When MOM asked this officer if he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth, the answer was yes. It’s normal for investigators to be suspicious of every suspect. It means nothing towards guilt, but I’m not surprised to see NBC portraying it that way.


45 posted on 07/03/2013 3:00:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is not reporting it’s editorializing. This witness told the defense attorney yesterday he thought Zimmerman was truthful in his several interrogations.


46 posted on 07/03/2013 3:04:28 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: SeekAndFind

So this investigators feelings are evidence?


47 posted on 07/03/2013 3:05:03 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Stentor

I’ve been knocked unconscious once, training a pony when I was about eight. I had a concussion one other time, when my hands slipped off a branch and wound up hitting my head.

I’m with you. You start messing with my head, you’re giving me carte blanche with your rights.


48 posted on 07/03/2013 3:06:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recentI lo colonoscopy...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“If he’s a cracker, he must be the attacker”


49 posted on 07/03/2013 3:09:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SeekAndFind

“If no crime was committed, he must be acquitted”


50 posted on 07/03/2013 3:09:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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