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Officer who testified in Zimmerman trial wore questionable ribbons, including one from WWII
Guns.Com ^ | July 3, 2013 | Jennifer Cruz

Posted on 07/03/2013 1:44:36 PM PDT by EXCH54FE

While watching the Martin-Zimmerman trial this week, combat veteran and Navy Cross recipient, Jeremiah Workman noticed a particularly disturbing decoration on Doris Singleton’s Sanford Police Department uniform when she took the stand. Singleton’s uniform had two ribbons — the World War II Army of Occupation Medal and the Defense Distinguished Service Medal – which Workman knew could not belong to someone who had only served in the Army for three years.

“I worked at the Pentagon with Sgt. Maj. [Carlton] Kent and Gen. [James] Conway for two years and I was around every general in the Marine Corps. I know these high ribbons, I know just about all the ribbons anyways,” Workman told The Marine Corps Times.

Workman, a former Marine who fought in the second battle of Fallujah, posted a picture of the woman on Facebook with the caption, “Am I going blind or is this police officer in the Zimmerman-Martin trial wearing ribbons that she doesn’t rate? I see a WW II army occupation medal and a Defense Distinguished service medal. Wow! On the stand she was asked about her military career. She said army for 3 years. So she received in three years what a 4 star general receives after forty years of service. Wow. What a superb 3 year army career!”

Gina Harkins, who writes for The Military Times, saw the post and contacted Workman, who had already talked with the Sanford Police Department by telephone. He told Harkins that according to the conversation he had with a Sanford PD official, since the department doesn’t have their own awards system, they simply went to the Army-Navy store and picked out Defense Department military ribbons. The official also stated that they intentionally chose World War II ribbons because there are not many veterans still alive from that era and they did not think anyone would notice.

The response left Workman thinking, “So that makes it all better now because these guys are dead?” He told Harkins, “The fact that that was their response is still pretty shameful, I think.”

Shameful, indeed.

He questioned, “But what kind of professional police department would send Bob the patrolman around the corner to go pick out some ribbons for our officers to wear when they do something heroic or have good service over the years?”

Workman also said that the official told him that they were working to set up their own awards system.

The police chief, who is also an Air Force veteran, replied to Business Insider via email stating that they “apologize if any veterans were offended, and promise to rectify the situation.”

Also according the website, other veterans have emailed the police chief insisting that the use of the ribbons be immediately stopped.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awards; donutwatch; military; sanfordpolice; zimmerman
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Did they not pass a law about wearing Awards you were not entitled to wear?
1 posted on 07/03/2013 1:44:37 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE
"Did they not pass a law about wearing Awards you were not entitled to wear?"

Yes, the Stolen Valor Act. But the supreme court shot it down.

2 posted on 07/03/2013 1:47:04 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: EXCH54FE
Idiots.

Police Chief being a veteran and all, he should know better.

3 posted on 07/03/2013 1:47:05 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: EXCH54FE; Revolting cat!
"Oh, my!!!"


4 posted on 07/03/2013 1:47:10 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: EXCH54FE

“The official also stated that they intentionally chose World War II ribbons because there are not many veterans still alive from that era and they did not think anyone would notice. “

effing’ scumbag. Why didn’t they just get it over with and buy a clone Medal of Honor?


5 posted on 07/03/2013 1:47:39 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: EXCH54FE

Shameful.


6 posted on 07/03/2013 1:47:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: EXCH54FE

IIRC, the “Stolen Valor” law was ruled unconstitutional by some liberal weenie judge/court.


7 posted on 07/03/2013 1:48:38 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: EXCH54FE

Well, they are ribbons not a military uniform, but rather a police uniform.

So this is odd, but legally OK, I would think.


8 posted on 07/03/2013 1:49:33 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Dole are sure losers. No more!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Their newest recruit.

9 posted on 07/03/2013 1:50:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: EXCH54FE

Morons

http://www.publicsafetyspecialties.com/civilian_cloth_ribbons.htm


10 posted on 07/03/2013 1:52:16 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: EXCH54FE

I want to know when her police department gave her the awards and if they had given the ribbons to other policemen. What did she do to earn the ribbons? Were they used to make her look more impressive at the Zimmerman trial?


11 posted on 07/03/2013 1:52:38 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

12 posted on 07/03/2013 1:52:38 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: EXCH54FE

Why should we assume that the meaning of a particular-pattern ribbon means the same thing on a police uniform as on a military uniform?


13 posted on 07/03/2013 1:53:08 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: max americana
Why didn’t they just get it over with and buy a clone Medal of Honor?
About a year ago, I noticed a local obituary listed the MOH as one of the deceased's awards. I checked on-line to read the brave man's citation, but none existed.
I called the funeral home's owner, explained it was a hoax, and they defended the listing by saying that's what the deceased's family told them.
When I asked if the family had declared he had walked on the moon would they have printed that too - he hung up on me.
14 posted on 07/03/2013 1:53:44 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Yeah, but it's really kind of trendy.

Probably the P.D.'s way of getting in on the "rainbow" craze that's been so big lately!

Really does look just divine!


15 posted on 07/03/2013 1:54:21 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: EXCH54FE

It was thrown out by SCOTUS.............


16 posted on 07/03/2013 1:55:50 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: EXCH54FE
apologize if any veterans were offended,

I'm not a veteran but I'm offended. Do I get an apology?

Wouldn't the fact that she's not 80 years old be a giveaway that she didn't earn a WWII medal?

17 posted on 07/03/2013 1:56:17 PM PDT by DManA
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To: EXCH54FE

As a veteran, I see no stolen valor here. The officer is wearing an award earned in the service of and duly authorized by the Sanford PD. She does not claim to be a WWII vet.

If there is any fault here, it belongs to the PD for electing to use DoD ribbons for its awards.

The solution is for LE agencies to use a consolidated set of awards, just as the branches of the military do.


18 posted on 07/03/2013 1:56:38 PM PDT by Terabitten (I'd rather have one Walker than fourteen runners.)
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To: max americana
Why didn’t they just get it over with and buy a clone Medal of Honor?

Careful, or Obama will want one of those too. He's got a Nobel Peace Prize, and a Grammy, and control of the White House - all for being diverse without accomplishments. I'm sure he can steamroll the Medal of Honor for himself, or even his and hers Medal of Honor awards so Michelle will match him, once he and his fans get the idea.

19 posted on 07/03/2013 1:57:40 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: EXCH54FE
He told Harkins that according to the conversation he had with a Sanford PD official, since the department doesn’t have their own awards system, they simply went to the Army-Navy store and picked out Defense Department military ribbons. The official also stated that they intentionally chose World War II ribbons because there are not many veterans still alive from that era and they did not think anyone would notice.

Hey,dipstick. WE noticed.

Is there something in the water in Sanford?

When I first saw Ofr. Singleton, I couldn't believe she was wearing military ribbons. I have never seen them on a police officer.

Which one was for perfect attendance?

20 posted on 07/03/2013 1:58:47 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

USAF with a Combat Infantry Badge? How often does *that* happen?


21 posted on 07/03/2013 1:59:21 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a special kind of stupid ...


22 posted on 07/03/2013 2:03:08 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: EXCH54FE

I had the honor of meeting and talking with Jeremiah Workman this year at a Memorial Day ceremony at my son’s former school.


23 posted on 07/03/2013 2:03:11 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: EXCH54FE

Well, I think I’ll run down to the Good Will store and pick me up a few battle ribbons.


24 posted on 07/03/2013 2:03:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: EXCH54FE

Its just the Sanford police version of “flair”.


25 posted on 07/03/2013 2:04:04 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: EXCH54FE

This is the b*tch who said GZ was following TM. Baloney. He never followed him. He ran in the direction TM was last seen AFTER he lost him, but he NEVER followed him! How can you follow someone you can’t see? And when he was running to get sight of TM again, 911 said “We don’t need you to do that” in which he immediately stopped. You can hear this quite clearly on the 911 tape. This all started when GZ WATCHED TM from his car looking into houses. He then drove past TM, parked his car and called 911, in which TM started walking towards him with his hand in his waist. But GZ NEVER FOLLOWED TM! This is another myth created by the media and this faux medal recipient.


26 posted on 07/03/2013 2:04:28 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: EXCH54FE

I do not see this as an instance where a person is wearing a military uniform and trying to pass these military experience ribbons off as earned.

She is clearly wearing a police uniform. The police department supervisor was merely trying to come up with a rewards system for his officers. He didn’t believe anyone would try to make the case these patrolmen were trying to take credit for military service.

He thought they would take pride in what those ribbons meant to them based on their department service.

I don’t see this as an insult to members of the military. It wasn’t intended to be referenced in relationship with the military.

Do folks who serve in the military see this as an insult. Perhaps I’m off base here, but I don’t believe they should.


27 posted on 07/03/2013 2:04:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: EXCH54FE
Did they not pass a law about wearing Awards you were not entitled to wear?

This was a local police dept. uniform, not a U.S. military uniform. Whatever she was wearing was local only and completely harmless.

I can't tell you how many times I have seen stars and bars on the shoulders of police chiefs that in no way reflect that they were generals or officers in the military.........

This is a ridiculous non-issue and needs to be ignorned..........

28 posted on 07/03/2013 2:05:52 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: EXCH54FE
Officer Singleton
29 posted on 07/03/2013 2:07:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: exit82

Its reasonable but (cost wise) that the pd use ribbons from milsurp. There is no attempt to claim they are Mil Awards as they are not an Mil uniform. It would I think have been better if they added a device that made then obviously not military awards


30 posted on 07/03/2013 2:10:53 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Albion Wilde

She looks like Joe Namath after a bad night....


31 posted on 07/03/2013 2:11:49 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
So this is odd, but legally OK, I would think.

And you would think CORRECT........Local PD's got to have ribbons of some kind as well as rank designations in the form of stars and bars so why not use the military's?

But then again, a thread ain't worthy of posting unless an issue can be made from it......LOL!


32 posted on 07/03/2013 2:12:42 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Wrong word: “Bling”.


33 posted on 07/03/2013 2:13:17 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"This is a ridiculous non-issue and needs to be ignorned.......... "

Why don't these keystone cops come up with their own medals, instead of stealing the awards of our WWII veterans? Did your father or grandfather serve in WWII?

34 posted on 07/03/2013 2:15:03 PM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Not the point. As a civilian she shouldn’t be wearing military-issue ribbons (especially as a part of her official duties), which the chief readily admitted they are. They are not ribbons issued by or unique to law enforcement, which is the only kind she should be wearing.


35 posted on 07/03/2013 2:17:06 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“USAF with a Combat Infantry Badge? How often does *that* happen?”

He’s so amazing he has unit citations in with all of his individual medals for “bravery!”


36 posted on 07/03/2013 2:20:47 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought candidates for promomotion to E-7 were required to finish puberty before they are considered.


37 posted on 07/03/2013 2:21:13 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes. You are off base here. The ribbons were specifically designed and have particular meaning. Using them as decorations is inappropriate and belittling.


38 posted on 07/03/2013 2:24:59 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
There were full colonels in World War II who couldn't vote or drink alcoholic beverages.
39 posted on 07/03/2013 2:25:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This ain’t the forties. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an Air Force Senior NCO younger than twenty eight years old.


40 posted on 07/03/2013 2:28:10 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: EXCH54FE

It also looks like she is wearing the NCO professional development ribbon (maroon ribbon with white stripes).


41 posted on 07/03/2013 2:28:29 PM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Which medal is for being a transgendered Doofus!


42 posted on 07/03/2013 2:30:15 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I didn’t serve in the service. I obviously didn’t earn these ribbons. For that reason, I leave it up to those who did to have the final say on this. That’s why I left it open to whether I was off base or not, and I’m not bothered to have folks let me know I am. They should, if they feel this way.

I will tell you, I wouldn’t be surprised if some folks who did earn those ribbons don’t agree with you. This woman is not trying to pass herself off as anything she isn’t. She is merely complying with department policy, and a supervisor who probably who probably did earn some of those ribbons, and is not offended by their use in this manor.

It is not my intent to ever offend or insult members of the armed services.


43 posted on 07/03/2013 2:31:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Godebert
Did your father or grandfather serve in WWII?

My grandfather served in France during WW-I, my father was a marine in WW-II, following his graduation from MSU in 1949, he was an Army officer in Germany in the early 1950's then a Detroit police officer until he retired.

Any other questions?

44 posted on 07/03/2013 2:39:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco

How about yourself?


45 posted on 07/03/2013 2:42:25 PM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert

As a side note, I served in the Army from 4/69 - 1/72..........


46 posted on 07/03/2013 2:43:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco
How about yourself?

...and why is that any of your damn business?

47 posted on 07/03/2013 2:44:53 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Because you asked if I had any other questions.

If it's none of my "damn" business, why do you advertise the fact on your home page, gomer.

48 posted on 07/03/2013 2:48:59 PM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well I’m a little Po’ed Those ribbions are US Military ribbons. I earned mine. What would a cop do to earn the same ribbon as a service member! I suggest they use Russian ribbons and awards, but awards that show valor and accomplishments earned by the American Soldier regardless of branch are only to be displayed by service personell and vetrans on special occasions!


49 posted on 07/03/2013 2:52:05 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: EXCH54FE

Well, we read many times when people try to enhance their military careers by adding to it undeserved ribbons and awards. So it would not surprise me if she has done the same?


50 posted on 07/03/2013 2:54:39 PM PDT by rawhide
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