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Palin: If the House sells out on immigration too, it might be time to leave the GOP
HotAir ^ | Friday June 28, 2013

Posted on 06/28/2013 2:34:32 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Just to preface her post, a good point by DrewM:

DrewM @DrewMTips

How many ppl saying "cut Marco slack. Don't write him off in 16" would FREAK out if he became pro-choice & helped Dems loosen abortion laws? 2:41 PM - 28 Jun 2013


We all have our “red line” issues, as Drew says. Offhand, I can’t think of a single person I know privately or on Twitter who supports (or is indifferent to) the Gang of Eight bill and who also traditionally has treated border security as a “red line.” Everyone wants better border security and everybody thinks it’s important for immigrants to follow the rule of law, but when push comes to shove, some people are okay with bending on this in the name of other political goals and others are not. If you believe the polls about background checks and gun control, we might very well win a few extra votes by caving on that too. Want to do that? We might also win some votes by declaring our support for abortion in the first trimester. Okay to do that? We all have our “red lines.”

Here’s Palin drawing a “red line” of her own for people angry about the big amnesty pander. Whole post is at the link, but this is the key bit:

Great job, GOP establishment. You’ve just abandoned the Reagan Democrats with this amnesty bill, and we needed them to “enlarge that tent” of which you so often speak. It’s depressing to consider that the House of Representatives is threatening to pass some version of this nonsensical bill in the coming weeks.

Once again, I’ll point out the obvious to you: it was the loss of working class voters in swing states that cost us the 2012 election, not the Hispanic vote. Legal immigrants respect the rule of law and can see how self-centered a politician must be to fill this amnesty bill with favors, earmarks, and crony capitalists’ pork, and call it good. You disrespect Hispanics with your assumption that they desire ignoring the rule of law.

Folks like me are barely hanging on to our enlistment papers in any political party – and it’s precisely because flip-flopping political actions like amnesty force us to ask how much more bull from both the elephants in the Republican Party and the jackasses in the Democrat Party we have to swallow before these political machines totally abandon the average commonsense hardworking American. Now we turn to watch the House. If they bless this new “bi-partisan” hyper-partisan devastating plan for amnesty, we’ll know that both private political parties have finally turned their backs on us. It will then be time to show our parties’ hierarchies what we think of being members of either one of these out-of-touch, arrogant, and dysfunctional political machines.

I don’t know how disrespected Hispanics feel by the immigration reform push; according to Pew, 90 percent think illegals should have a way to stay legally in the U.S. and 59 percent think they should be allowed to apply for legal status even before border improvements have been made. Her broader point, though, about the party’s crushing failure to engage effectively with the working- and middle-class is spot on. That’s what I was getting at in the McCain post: This amnesty charade is simply the GOP’s way of dressing a gaping economic wound that cuts across racial demographics by putting an identity-politics band-aid on it, as if legalizing more cheap labor to make things even harder on working-class Americans doesn’t make the problem worse. The real reason to despair and start thinking third-party isn’t the amnesty bill itself, it’s the fact that this is what the party feels compelled to resort to now in lieu of building a better economic agenda. If they can’t figure out how to talk to people who aren’t entrepreneurs about pocketbook issues, then why keep donating to them and organizing for them? They’ve flunked politics 101. We’re pumping a dry well here.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; establishment; gope; illegals; loadurgunsboys; palin; rubio; sarahpalin; workingfamilies
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To: laplata

I would SWIM over the pond to join that party and the New America.


21 posted on 06/28/2013 2:48:13 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Hardraade

Are you in the UK?


22 posted on 06/28/2013 2:50:01 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Bigtigermike
"Immigration reform" in this sense should be every republican's, let alone conservative's, red line issue.

it is an issue of life or death of the republic now.

23 posted on 06/28/2013 2:50:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Bigtigermike

F the Whigs!


24 posted on 06/28/2013 2:51:55 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Bigtigermike
The sad part is that the immigration is based on a false premise. Most Adult Mexicans living in this country illegally don't want to be citizens. They don't want to register or pay taxes or vote. They are here to provide labor for wages. If they could find comparable jobs in Mexico they would go back. They don't particularly like or dislike Americans but they are more comfortable with their own social group. Now Mexican children that have been raised here are Americanized and would not want to go back.
25 posted on 06/28/2013 2:52:26 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: stockpirate

Exactly! They are all disgusting and need to get the message.


26 posted on 06/28/2013 2:52:45 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Best wishes and good luck with that. Better start packing for an early departure.

Maybe, with luck and a miracle or three, you might have to unpack and stay, but I'd start looking for a good moving company early to beat the rush getting the Dodge outta hell.

Sarah, you and the TEA party are/were the GOP's last hope. Oh well, you did all that could be done, but...they do NOT want to change and are happy as they are.

At some point, the strong give up and leave; the weak give up and stay and the rest just drift away.

27 posted on 06/28/2013 2:52:53 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: laplata

Norway.

But our pols are about as islamofascist as the british ones.


28 posted on 06/28/2013 2:53:14 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: Manic_Episode

F the Whigs!


And the Turn Coats. 99.5% of them are Turn Coats.


29 posted on 06/28/2013 2:54:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Noamie

We all raise our hands Noamie, we have had enough of this hsit, so we take it in the shorts for 2 election cycles, build it damn it they will come. Yes I am that pissed @ the GOP.


30 posted on 06/28/2013 2:56:17 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Bigtigermike

No maybe’s about it. Time to go. And time to setup to the plate instead of saying empty threats.


31 posted on 06/28/2013 2:56:28 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Bigtigermike

I don’t think there’s an issue that Governor Palin has not found herself on the right side of. Her political compass is extraordinarily true.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 2:56:53 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: arthurus
If the House sells out on Immigration, too, it is all over, even more all over than it is if Obamacare is implemented. With the new voting rights of 10 to 20, 30,50, 100 million- however many latinos and Moslems want to come here, Repunblicans will never win another national or, in most states, state election. Single Party totalitarian Democrat rule will be a fait accompli and nonreversible. No other new party will fare any better.

I can tell you right now, that I will support 3rd Party every way I can should the House cave. The GOP has been on life support with me for some time now.

Do I think a 3rd Party stands a chance in the next election? Hell no. The next 10 elections? Nope. I think it's a safe bet that I'll never see "conservative" politics on a national level again in my lifetime (I'm 45). But maybe my grandchildren or further on down will be the ones to reclaim this nation. I don't know. But dammit, it has to start somewhere! May as well be now, with me.

33 posted on 06/28/2013 2:57:23 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: BenLurkin

May I suggest Party in Government. PIG


34 posted on 06/28/2013 2:57:37 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: Bigtigermike

time to stop the House is now non-violent but forceful demonstrations in DC and home offices. it might be the last chance for our nation before the cartridge box.


35 posted on 06/28/2013 2:58:39 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Hardraade

Come over. We need good people.


36 posted on 06/28/2013 2:58:39 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Mozilla

I meant Step Up.


37 posted on 06/28/2013 2:59:53 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: BenLurkin
The Party of Government (Democrat wing and Republican wing) will have completed the destruction of America before any new parties will have a chance to stop them.

Once the "Criminal Illegals are Better and more Fertile than Americans bill passes, it's over.

The only possible way to turn the tide is for the States to act when a cataclysmic event occurs (likely financial)

When such an event happens, the States will have one peaceful short term window of opportunity to drastically removed from the Federal leviathan, all unconstitutional functions.

38 posted on 06/28/2013 3:00:23 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Democrat_media
Congress needs to do what Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX) says to do with this bill...Blue Slip the Immigration bill. It's Unconstitutional.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036809/posts

39 posted on 06/28/2013 3:02:15 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: laplata
Same here. A truly Conservative 3rd party would take off like a wild fire.

Correct. It will make the Tea Party of 2010 look tame.

There is an incredible amount of righteous anger building -- it is aimed at the GOPe and the evil left.

A new Second party can channel that anger into a new awakening of Liberty.

40 posted on 06/28/2013 3:02:25 PM PDT by sand88
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