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Palin: If the House sells out on immigration too, it might be time to leave the GOP
HotAir ^ | Friday June 28, 2013

Posted on 06/28/2013 2:34:32 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Just to preface her post, a good point by DrewM:

DrewM @DrewMTips

How many ppl saying "cut Marco slack. Don't write him off in 16" would FREAK out if he became pro-choice & helped Dems loosen abortion laws? 2:41 PM - 28 Jun 2013


We all have our “red line” issues, as Drew says. Offhand, I can’t think of a single person I know privately or on Twitter who supports (or is indifferent to) the Gang of Eight bill and who also traditionally has treated border security as a “red line.” Everyone wants better border security and everybody thinks it’s important for immigrants to follow the rule of law, but when push comes to shove, some people are okay with bending on this in the name of other political goals and others are not. If you believe the polls about background checks and gun control, we might very well win a few extra votes by caving on that too. Want to do that? We might also win some votes by declaring our support for abortion in the first trimester. Okay to do that? We all have our “red lines.”

Here’s Palin drawing a “red line” of her own for people angry about the big amnesty pander. Whole post is at the link, but this is the key bit:

Great job, GOP establishment. You’ve just abandoned the Reagan Democrats with this amnesty bill, and we needed them to “enlarge that tent” of which you so often speak. It’s depressing to consider that the House of Representatives is threatening to pass some version of this nonsensical bill in the coming weeks.

Once again, I’ll point out the obvious to you: it was the loss of working class voters in swing states that cost us the 2012 election, not the Hispanic vote. Legal immigrants respect the rule of law and can see how self-centered a politician must be to fill this amnesty bill with favors, earmarks, and crony capitalists’ pork, and call it good. You disrespect Hispanics with your assumption that they desire ignoring the rule of law.

Folks like me are barely hanging on to our enlistment papers in any political party – and it’s precisely because flip-flopping political actions like amnesty force us to ask how much more bull from both the elephants in the Republican Party and the jackasses in the Democrat Party we have to swallow before these political machines totally abandon the average commonsense hardworking American. Now we turn to watch the House. If they bless this new “bi-partisan” hyper-partisan devastating plan for amnesty, we’ll know that both private political parties have finally turned their backs on us. It will then be time to show our parties’ hierarchies what we think of being members of either one of these out-of-touch, arrogant, and dysfunctional political machines.

I don’t know how disrespected Hispanics feel by the immigration reform push; according to Pew, 90 percent think illegals should have a way to stay legally in the U.S. and 59 percent think they should be allowed to apply for legal status even before border improvements have been made. Her broader point, though, about the party’s crushing failure to engage effectively with the working- and middle-class is spot on. That’s what I was getting at in the McCain post: This amnesty charade is simply the GOP’s way of dressing a gaping economic wound that cuts across racial demographics by putting an identity-politics band-aid on it, as if legalizing more cheap labor to make things even harder on working-class Americans doesn’t make the problem worse. The real reason to despair and start thinking third-party isn’t the amnesty bill itself, it’s the fact that this is what the party feels compelled to resort to now in lieu of building a better economic agenda. If they can’t figure out how to talk to people who aren’t entrepreneurs about pocketbook issues, then why keep donating to them and organizing for them? They’ve flunked politics 101. We’re pumping a dry well here.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; establishment; gope; illegals; loadurgunsboys; palin; rubio; sarahpalin; workingfamilies
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To: Caliban

Good info . but do we leave the USA and let the communists/democrats have it or do we stay and fight?


121 posted on 06/29/2013 5:38:44 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Okay, keep me posted, please, if you or someone you know has a Third Party ping list going.

Regarding the people you call the fanboys, I suspect that some of them are GOP consultants and staffers who have something to lose if we dump the GOP.


122 posted on 06/29/2013 5:58:27 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: RobbyS
My view is that one has to keep in mind the differences between North and South, between The city and the rest of the country, between Catholics and the anti-clericals, and Indios and Spaniards. History keeps raising its head.

I hadn't considered all of that. I knew their were some differences but I thought the southern Indios were a very small minority.
What are your thoughts on what can be done to resolve the differences?

123 posted on 06/29/2013 6:49:32 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Democrat_media

Look at Detroit....

That is a real tangible reality that waits for you...

Didn’t you have forefathers from far away lands seeking here what no longer exists here?

You need to rethink the fight...what are you planning to fight for?

Lower taxes...isn’t going to happen...
Sensible health care?
Rights for white heterosexual males?
Privacy?
Gun and ammo rights?
More government martial law...ala Boston terror?
Preventing the government from confiscating your 401k or IRA?
State rights?

Look closely to Detroit, St. Louis, Sacremento, Chicago, Birmingham...to name a few bankrupt cities

Have you ever thought about when the EBT card program runs out, SS , disability runs out....what the “gimmie dats” are going to do?

It’s going to crash, the Feds have destroyed the dollar, less people are working, the tax base is shrinking, more people lining up for hand outs...

What are you going to fight or?


124 posted on 06/29/2013 10:02:22 AM PDT by Caliban (Politics is war conducted by other means...)
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To: oldbrowser

No idea. But Mexico is a country that ought to be richer than it is, but has always suffered from bad government.


125 posted on 06/29/2013 12:52:42 PM PDT by RobbyS
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