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SENATE BILL INCENTIVIZES EMPLOYERS TO FIRE AMERICANS AND HIRE AMNESTIED IMMIGRANTS
Brietbart ^ | Monday June 24, 2013

Posted on 06/24/2013 1:04:52 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Under the Gang of 8’s backroom immigration deal with Senators Schumer, Corker and Hoeven, formerly illegal immigrants who are amnestied will be eligible to work, but will not be eligible for ObamaCare. Employers who would be required to pay as much as a $3,000 penalty for most employees who receive an ObamaCare healthcare “exchange” subsidy, would not have to pay the penalty if they hire amnestied immigrants.

Consequently, employers would have a significant incentive to hire or retain amnestied immigrants, rather than current citizens, including those who have recently achieved citizenship via the current naturalization process.

The issue is really an “interaction effect” of the immigration proposal and ObamaCare itself.

Beginning in January, businesses with 50 or more full-time employees, that do not currently offer healthcare benefits that are considered “acceptable” by the Obama administration, must pay a penalty if at least one of their workers obtains insurance on a new government-run “exchange.” The penalty can be as much as $3,000 per employee.

Many employers have been preparing to cope with the new regulations by slashing the hours of full-timers to part-time status. Since “full-time,” in the language of ObamaCare, is averaging 30 hours per week, employers will, in general, receive the penalty if they have 50 or more employees who are working an average of 30 hours per week.

If the immigration bill becomes law, many employers could receive incentives of hundreds of thousands of dollars to hire amnestied immigrants over American citizens. In addition, these newly legalized immigrants could work “full-time,” an advantage for companies and businesses as well, while employers could lay off or diminish to “part-time” status, American workers.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; congress; criminalaliens; criminalgovernment; democrats; fascism; gangof8; govtabuse; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; marxism; obamacare; tyranny
Well Rubio staffer did say that some American workers don't cut it anyway............so!
1 posted on 06/24/2013 1:04:52 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

FUMR and your gang of eight traitors!


2 posted on 06/24/2013 1:06:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Convicted felons and illegal aliens are the only ones that will have a job in the USA.


3 posted on 06/24/2013 1:07:18 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Bigtigermike

So why are the unions for this monstrosity? Early retirement benefits/pensions?


4 posted on 06/24/2013 1:08:35 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Jim Robinson

Is there a part that says AMNESTIED IMMIGRANTS do not ever have to pay any taxes


5 posted on 06/24/2013 1:10:01 PM PDT by molson209
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To: moovova
Tick.....tick........tick...........tick..............tick.................

Claire Wolfe's alarm clock is winding down.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

6 posted on 06/24/2013 1:10:47 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Bigtigermike

Let me see....amnestied folks get full time jobs and don’t have to deal with deathcare? They will be able to go to any doctor anytime and I get to die.

How I hate the ones ruling us.

phuck them all.


7 posted on 06/24/2013 1:10:59 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Bigtigermike

Those bastards continue to violate their Oaths
as they actually sell OUR country and, what is
left, of its security.

They are Lawless without remorse.

They are corrupt without accountability.

They have made the Constitution a document for them
to pi$$ on and ignore at their whim, hourly.

They lie ... and there is NO accountability, just
a press that snuggles and lies.


8 posted on 06/24/2013 1:11:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Bigtigermike

Unintended consequences? As a result of my Congress?


9 posted on 06/24/2013 1:12:14 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Hotlanta Mike
So why are the unions for this monstrosity?

Americans are individualistic, and have grown increasingly resistant to organizing over the years. Low-skilled third-world types are much more amenable. The unions want to get them legal and organized as quickly as possible to get that dues money flowing. All about perks for the leadership (and laundering money for the Dems)


10 posted on 06/24/2013 1:13:57 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I doubt the rank and file union members even know how screwed they’ll be. The union bosses love it, though, since their main job is to collect dues and RAT votes. The wetbacks will oblige without asking questions, and the mega-corporations will get plenty of cheap labor.


11 posted on 06/24/2013 1:14:31 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Jim Robinson

Every day it seems we are one step closer to shooting. Our fore fathers would have already started it.


12 posted on 06/24/2013 1:16:06 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: moovova

I wonder who they think is going to be around to pay any taxes in the future.


13 posted on 06/24/2013 1:17:31 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Diogenesis

When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you - you know your nation is doomed.

-Ayn Rand


14 posted on 06/24/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

This does indeed smack of 10-289


15 posted on 06/24/2013 1:19:14 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Every day it seems we are one step closer to shooting. Our fore fathers would have already started it.


Yep. But our fore fathers would slap us silly for allowing it to get this far. They’d take us to the wood shed.


16 posted on 06/24/2013 1:19:26 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: moovova

Then they can pay their own damn benefits and fund this stupid government themselves while I sit on my ass in a comfortable chair and which it fall to the ground.


17 posted on 06/24/2013 1:21:45 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: laplata

Post of the day. Truer words have never been said.


18 posted on 06/24/2013 1:22:31 PM PDT by dforest (I have now entered the Twilight Zone.)
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To: C210N

You are exactly right:

Directive 10-289 is ratified roughly halfway through Atlas Shrugged as an emergency measure. It locks the economy in place.

As they learned the hard way in the subsequent pages, economy, like an education, is motion, not a status, position or level. To lock it in place is to kill it.

Point One: All workers, wage earners, and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment...

Point Two: All industrial, commercial, manufacturing, and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit, nor leave, nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business...

Point Three: All patents and copyrights, pertaining to any devices, inventions, formulas, processes, and works of any nature whatsoever, shall be turned over to the nation as a patriotic emergency gift...

Point Four: No new devices, inventions, products, or goods of any nature whatsoever, not now on the market, shall be produced, invented, manufactured or sold after the date of this directive...

Point Five: Every establishment, concern, corporation or person engaged in production of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth produce the same amount of goods per year as is, they or he produced during the Basic Year, no more or no less...

Point Six: Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less...

Point Seven: All wages, prices, salaries, dividends, profits, interest rates and forms of income of any nature whatsoever, shall be frozen at their present figures, as of the date of this directive. (But taxes will be allowed to increase as needed for the public good)

Point Eight: All cases arising from and rules not specifically provided for in this directive, shall be settled and determined by the Unification Board, whose decisions shall be final.


19 posted on 06/24/2013 1:23:29 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Bigtigermike

So, what happens to all of the union workers that will be displaced?


20 posted on 06/24/2013 1:24:05 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: dforest

I should have added that after they took us to the wood shed, they’d lock and load and then go hunting.

This is all such a shame.


21 posted on 06/24/2013 1:29:41 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Jim Robinson

We’ve known from the beginning that Rubio is nothing but an opportunist joke.

Cuba has more honest government than we do now.


22 posted on 06/24/2013 1:34:53 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Bigtigermike

wow.Just insane


23 posted on 06/24/2013 1:37:18 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Bigtigermike

Just another day, just another betrayal of the republic.


24 posted on 06/24/2013 1:41:44 PM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Cool! If I turn myself into a BP office claiming to be Jose Jimenez, I can get a car, a phone, an education, health care, housing and welfare?!? I really don’t want to actually work though so maybe I can have my friend, Joe American, work in my place and pay me 10% of his salary as a finders fee. Hmm, this could work!


25 posted on 06/24/2013 1:44:19 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: molson209; Jim Robinson
Is there a part that says AMNESTIED IMMIGRANTS do not ever have to pay any taxes?

Does it matter? Nappy already said DHS will decide what to enforce and what to ignore. Do you think Obama, who would be the biggest vote buyer in history, and his IRS would want his new Dem (or worse) voters to be unhappy?

26 posted on 06/24/2013 1:45:30 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: bgill

I think Rush teased about this...relinquishing citizenship, going to Meheeco, then walking back across the southern border to get all of the freebies.


27 posted on 06/24/2013 1:46:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Every day it seems we are one step closer to shooting. Our fore fathers would have already started it.

Frankly, I think the Lefties would like nothing more than for the "right-wing-nuts" to start shooting.

28 posted on 06/24/2013 1:48:14 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: molson209; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
The bulk of them don't pay taxes. They receive earned income tax credits (those who work at all). And foodstamps. And healthcare. And free ObamaPhones.
29 posted on 06/24/2013 1:53:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: clintonh8r

Of course they don’t. The Union bosses told them it would be good for them, and they agreed.


30 posted on 06/24/2013 1:57:13 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Bigtigermike

No shit, they know most regular citizens will not vote to give them power so they wanna import people from a third world where they gladly vote for tyrants in exchange for promises of trinkets and security...

THE ELITE IS PLANNING TO REPLACE US WITH BETTER “SUBJECTS”!!!!!


31 posted on 06/24/2013 1:57:18 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks. Even if they did owe taxes, well, this is the new political IRS.


32 posted on 06/24/2013 2:17:41 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: GraceG

You nailed it!


33 posted on 06/24/2013 2:21:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Bigtigermike
i suppose it doesn't matter that what you are all saying is not true.

http://www.ciab.com/workarea/downloadasset.aspx?id=2189
34 posted on 06/24/2013 2:24:48 PM PDT by kenavi ("Beware of rulers, for they befriend only for their own benefit." Gamliel)
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To: Bigtigermike

bump


35 posted on 06/24/2013 2:53:43 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Bigtigermike

Just more proof that those that believe and live like Americans, you are the enemy and you need to be dealt with. We are in a full swing to totalitarianism by the ruling class in this country. Reality does not matter to them, only the chance to obtain ultimate power.


36 posted on 06/24/2013 3:52:53 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s anti-minority!

Most unskilled jobs are held by minorities such as blacks.

This creates an incentive to fire blacks in favor of latinos.

Why should this nation court 10-20 million latinos when the unemployment rate among blacks is over 16%!

THAT is how you fight this bill!


37 posted on 06/24/2013 4:21:01 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Jim Robinson
the Gang of 8’s backroom immigration deal

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them."

- Patrick Henry

38 posted on 06/24/2013 4:21:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: moovova

Are there any men that will lead?


39 posted on 06/24/2013 4:31:42 PM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I can feel the breeze from the graves from here.


40 posted on 06/24/2013 4:40:02 PM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Jane Long

They are too stupid to figure out. Really I have never see such blindness... Guess it’s the commie brainwashing.

There is nothing in this for manufacturing union members.


41 posted on 06/24/2013 4:43:31 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10
There is nothing in this for manufacturing union members.

Exactly. To me, it doesn't make ANY sense for ANY union member or low paying entry level worker to support this. They're about to be replaced.

42 posted on 06/24/2013 4:48:52 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Only until they found out that they were the targets of opportunity!


43 posted on 06/24/2013 5:31:17 PM PDT by Forrestfire (("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." Theodore Roosevelt))
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