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Snowden heads to Venezuela via Moscow, Havana: airline source
Reuters ^ | 6/23/2013

Posted on 06/23/2013 8:14:12 AM PDT by markomalley

Former U.S. National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden will fly from Moscow to Cuba on Monday and then plans to go to Venezuela, a source at the Russian airline Aeroflot said on Sunday.

The source said Snowden was already on his way to Moscow from Hong Kong and would leave for Havana within 24 hours.

The South China Morning Post also reported that Snowden had left Hong Kong for Moscow and that his final destination might be Ecuador or Iceland. The WikiLeaks anti-secrecy website said Snowden was heading for an unnamed "democratic nation".

The flight to Moscow prompted speculation that Snowden might remain in Russia, whose leaders accuse the United States of double standards on democracy and have championed public figures who challenge Western governments.

But Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said he was unaware of Snowden's plans and the Foreign Ministry declined immediate comment on whether he had asked for asylum.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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While I'm glad that the extent of NSA Domestic Spying has come into common knowledge (though for most FReepers, it has been known for years), any sympathy I had for Snowden ended when he disclosed specific Chinese IP addresses that NSA hacked.
1 posted on 06/23/2013 8:14:12 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I’m with ya! I liked what he did exposing the feds for spying on US! But, not tickled about him heading to VENEZUELA?!!!! Something about this whole Snowden affair stinks to high heaven...


2 posted on 06/23/2013 8:17:36 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: markomalley

This guy is operating against our interests.
I never did think his story rang true.

I don’t even think this guy is an operative.
He is just a pathetic attention whore.


3 posted on 06/23/2013 8:19:17 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: markomalley

Disinformatzia. I’m still guessing he lands in Iceland.


4 posted on 06/23/2013 8:19:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: markomalley

Riding on any airline that far and long should be punishment enough for any crime.


5 posted on 06/23/2013 8:20:02 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: markomalley
"Any sympathy I had for Snowden ended when he disclosed specific Chinese IP addresses that NSA hacked."

Agreed.

6 posted on 06/23/2013 8:21:27 AM PDT by dokmad
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To: mylife
This guy is operating against our interests. I never did think his story rang true.

I don’t even think this guy is an operative. He is just a pathetic attention whore.

"This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility," Obama told Medvedev when the pair met in Seoul."

First Manning, and now this guy. I don't think it's a mistake.

7 posted on 06/23/2013 8:22:58 AM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: markomalley

Red China, Russia and now Venezuela?

Sounds like a traitor to me!


8 posted on 06/23/2013 8:23:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Bushbacker1

I doubt this is his actual route, or his final destination, not to say there won’t be an aircraft following this route.

I suspect he would know how to continually make fools of the NSA.


9 posted on 06/23/2013 8:23:41 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec
I suspect he would know how to continually make fools of the NSA.

Not that that is particularly hard to do.

10 posted on 06/23/2013 8:24:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

More evidence that Snowden is a Red Chinese agent.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 8:24:47 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

What country is Obama an agent of?


12 posted on 06/23/2013 8:25:31 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley

All desperation to avoid acknowledging how many foreign nationals are doing the exact same thing as Snowden every day because they work throughout our defense industries.

A few years back a Chinese national was accused of stealing secrets from Los Alamos national labs where he worked. It turned out that he wasn’t guilty but he shouldn’t have been working there.

Anyone who thinks we actually have any national secrets is a fool. Our defense industries are full of cheap labor from God knows where. All of our former state department officials end up in the globalist think tanks like the international crisis group. The only secrets our government is concerned about being exposed are the ones being exposed to us.

This Snowden crap is like bad soviet propaganda. Snowden is a nobody who is just an indicator of the storm of leaks that is coming because we’ve created these people by the thousands.


13 posted on 06/23/2013 8:25:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin
Red China, Russia and now Venezuela?

Sounds like a traitor to me!

yep, America can be proud we didn't elect him.

14 posted on 06/23/2013 8:26:16 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: PoloSec
"I doubt this is his actual route, or his final destination, not to say there won’t be an aircraft following this route. I suspect he would know how to continually make fools of the NSA."

My guess is he will likely end up neutralized..

15 posted on 06/23/2013 8:26:47 AM PDT by dokmad
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To: Travis McGee

Yup, like bad Soviet propaganda. He’ll end up in Iceland.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 8:26:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: markomalley

Will he disapear into the unknow triangle.


17 posted on 06/23/2013 8:28:44 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: markomalley

Nope,sorry....this is where any admiration I might have had for him up until now ends.If you flee to China,the USSR,Iran,North Korea,Venezuela or any other enemy of this nation you’re an enemy of mine.It’s just that simple.And a stopover in the USSR? I wonder who’ll debrief him *there*? I say shoot the filthy bast*rd.


18 posted on 06/23/2013 8:29:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
And a stopover in the USSR?

There is no USSR. Hasn't been since 1992.

19 posted on 06/23/2013 8:29:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: markomalley
Snowden was always a big Paul fan. Ron Paul claims that Americans caused (and basically deserved) what happened to us on 9-11. Rand Paul was on TV this morning supporting Snowden.

Those Americans (like Paul) who stick up for Islamic terrorists will support Snowden no matter what he does, but most Americans see Snowden for what he really is.

20 posted on 06/23/2013 8:30:33 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: markomalley

Yes, that is pretty much when he went from hero to traitor in my book.


21 posted on 06/23/2013 8:30:54 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’d do one better.

If I were POTUS, I’d pull a Reagan and have the plane carrying him to -well, wherever -intercepted and forced down.

Use fighter jets to do, just like Reagan did with the Achille Lauro hijackers. And frogmarch Snowden in front of the international media.


22 posted on 06/23/2013 8:32:31 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: markomalley; All
If Obama had any guts about him, he'd send USAF/Navy fighters to intercept the flight from Havana to Caracas (like Reagan did with the Achille Lauro hijackers), and divert it to Costa Rica, Columbia, or Honduras for his apprehension and extradition to the U.S.

But he won't.

23 posted on 06/23/2013 8:32:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: markomalley

I’m sure he’s paying each of his benefactors with whatever valuables he has. The Chinese got something, the Russians got something, the Cubans will get something, and the Venezuelans will get something. It’s no mystery what he’s paying with.


24 posted on 06/23/2013 8:32:39 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: dfwgator
There is no USSR. Hasn't been since 1992.

So there's no USSR but there *is* an Easter Bunny.Is that your position? I didn't think too many Freepers walked round wearing rose colored glasses.

25 posted on 06/23/2013 8:33:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: count-your-change

>> Riding on any airline that far and long should be punishment enough for any crime <<

Well, you obviously haven’t flown on one of those Asian airlines with their gorgeous stewardesses!


26 posted on 06/23/2013 8:34:05 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Gay State Conservative

Today’s Russia is more like Imperial Russia than the Soviet Union.

Don’t get hung up on Putin being KGB, he would have served the Czar with equal fervor if he was still in power.


27 posted on 06/23/2013 8:34:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

yep, leaves one thinking is there any place left on Earth where the People are the actual government.


28 posted on 06/23/2013 8:36:43 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Great minds think alike. :)


29 posted on 06/23/2013 8:38:05 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cripplecreek

Good post.


30 posted on 06/23/2013 8:38:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: dfwgator; Gay State Conservative

The USSR was dissolved on December 24, 1991.


31 posted on 06/23/2013 8:38:36 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So I rounded up. ;)


32 posted on 06/23/2013 8:39:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gay State Conservative
I didn't think too many Freepers walked round wearing rose colored glasses.

If you believe that, you're wearing rose colored glasses. (;>

33 posted on 06/23/2013 8:39:45 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: markomalley

@all - You guys are seriously hilarious..... red China, Moscow, Cuba, Venezuela. The Soviet Commie tour. From and unknown source at Reuters to boot, and you are all lapping it up like starving animals. This is too rich. The balloon is floated that this guy will be traveling to all the communist hotspots of past and present enemies, and the conservatives fly off the handle accusing this guy of being a traitor.

Do you really think that this Snowden would be that dense to announce any travel plans he may have? Also how do we know he was the one that actually said what Chinese IP addresses the NSA hacked?


34 posted on 06/23/2013 8:40:04 AM PDT by Necrovore (Lu"gen offenbahren Kontrolle)
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To: BenLurkin

I have to agree. If you hold a clearance, you are sworn to protect sources and methods. If his intent was to whistleblow, he could have done that through other means/channels. And he could have headed straight to some sanctuary state. But willingly taking the methods out on a thumbdrive and heading to China?

Cheney called it last week. the guy is a spy, China first, the Moscow? I’ll be surprised if he is alive for very long...after they’ve gotten what they can from him. He’ll WISH he was only waterboarded..


35 posted on 06/23/2013 8:40:39 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: markomalley

Michelle Malkin just posted this interview on Twitter with Fox and Friends on 6/13/13 regarding whether he is a hero or a traitor:

Would the Founding Fathers Have Condoned NSA Snooping?

Michelle Malkin and the Fox and Friends hosts discussed whether those who call Edward Snowden a “hero” truly understand the possible national security implications of his leaks.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/13/michelle-malkin-fox-and-friends-hosts-edward-snowden-endangering-national-security


36 posted on 06/23/2013 8:41:13 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Necrovore
Do you really think that this Snowden would be that dense to announce any travel plans he may have?

He didn't. The info is coming from the airlines and the Russians, who confirmed this morning that he's at the Moscow airport.

37 posted on 06/23/2013 8:41:35 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: cripplecreek
makes one wonder how those in power intend to control the leaks ... guess everything leaked can be titled misinformation by the lame-stream.
38 posted on 06/23/2013 8:42:14 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cripplecreek

Nice post. I think Snowjob may even be a plant. Start sowing the ground now so when deeper stuff comes out they can say its old news.

Of course I dont believe anything I am told by the USSA media and wickedness rules right now so I suspect Ed is not what he says he is one way of the other.


39 posted on 06/23/2013 8:42:58 AM PDT by winodog
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To: markomalley

“..anti-secrecy website said Snowden was heading for an unnamed “democratic nation”.”

Secrecy for me but not for thee.


40 posted on 06/23/2013 8:43:41 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Starboard

Ever look at the trustees on the international crisis group? The only secrets being kept are the ones being kept from us.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/about/board.aspx


41 posted on 06/23/2013 8:44:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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to tell the truth ... maybe nothing of the truth has been reported .... heck, who knows.


42 posted on 06/23/2013 8:44:38 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The USSR was dissolved on December 24, 1991.

And "ACORN" was dissolved in 2011.

43 posted on 06/23/2013 8:44:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: cripplecreek

Standard tradecraft red herring stuff. Putin will see him safely on a jet to Iceland that is full of his operatives. The CIA won’t get near that airplane.

That’s why he went to Hong Kong instead of to Japan or Europe or South America. Anywhere the CIA has a fairly free hand, he would have been rolled up in a carpet and carried out to a waiting van on Day One.

This boy may be many things, but stupid he ain’t.


44 posted on 06/23/2013 8:45:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

In some respects, this episode is an opportunity for the U.S. to exercise some muscle and show strength. But the chances of this happening under weak and indecisive Obama are slim to none.

The rest of the world is watching and will reach conclusions about this country’s confused leadership and lack of resolve. IMO this will prove to be a seminal event that will reverberate for years to come.


45 posted on 06/23/2013 8:46:16 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: markomalley

And when he does significant damage to our country from the country of a sworn enemy, the lefties will laugh at how “conservatives” called him a hero. Because some conservatives are idiots.


46 posted on 06/23/2013 8:46:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Bushbacker1

Well, does this mean he’ll lose his social Security?


47 posted on 06/23/2013 8:47:02 AM PDT by miele man
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I can’t imagine him doing more damage than Obama has already done.


48 posted on 06/23/2013 8:48:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Travis McGee; everyone

does anyone have any further info on that laptop, from NASA, that was delivered to china? Was this one a rumor?


49 posted on 06/23/2013 8:48:01 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: markomalley
I think the Obama goons have murdered him..Did anyone see him get off that plane in Russia..”SARCASM”

now that is taken care of lets go after the real criminals..How about first string up the murdering Muslim at Ft Hood remember the one that murdered our boys and girls..then go after the criminal Holder and Obama..Go into the white house and grab the head communist Valery and then take the Muslim Brotherhood that is in the white house.Then put the moron Biden back in the asylum..

50 posted on 06/23/2013 8:49:17 AM PDT by PLD
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