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Exclusive: U.S. secretly providing training for Syrian rebels (Obama Contras)
LA Times ^ | Friday June 21, 2013

Posted on 06/21/2013 11:55:09 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

WASHINGTON — CIA operatives and U.S. special operations troops have been secretly training Syrian rebels with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons since late last year, months before President Obama approved plans to begin directly arming them, according to U.S. officials and rebel commanders.

The covert U.S. training at bases in Jordan and Turkey, along with Obama’s decision this month to supply arms and ammunition to the rebels, have raised hopes among the beleaguered opposition that Washington ultimately will provide heavier weapons as well. So far, the rebels say they lack the weapons they need to regain the offensive in Syria’s bitter civil war.

(Excerpt) Read more at touch.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
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1 posted on 06/21/2013 11:55:09 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I recall that after Iran-Contra that a bunch of laws were passed to make this much more difficult, I wonder if Obama is violating any of these laws?


2 posted on 06/21/2013 11:56:42 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Bigtigermike

WHAT THE FLIPPIN FK!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 06/21/2013 11:56:48 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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“But arms shipments from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries, provided with assent from the Americans, took months to arrive and included less than the rebels had expected”

Benghazi connection?


4 posted on 06/21/2013 11:56:58 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

So our troops have been training terrorists that took thousands of our troops lives and thousands of American lives on 9/11 by order of POTUS and no one sees this as treason.


5 posted on 06/21/2013 11:58:42 AM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: dila813

I wonder if Obama is violating any of these laws?

every time he wakes up in the WH


6 posted on 06/21/2013 11:59:15 AM PDT by molson209
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To: Bigtigermike
This link works: http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-cia-syria-20130621,0,6346686.story

Good Hunting... from Varmint Al

7 posted on 06/21/2013 11:59:49 AM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: Bigtigermike
Weapons and training which will then be used against the Israelis and us after Assad is overthrown.

Brilliant! Just brilliant!

8 posted on 06/21/2013 12:01:19 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: MestaMachine; SE Mom; hoosiermama; maggief; thouworm; crosslink; Nachum

Treason confirmed ping!!

Benghazigate!!

Time to IMPEACH!!


9 posted on 06/21/2013 12:04:42 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

My opinion, and its pure conjecture and some reading in the area, but Benghazi was the locus of the shipping of arms from Libya to Syria...the outpost was a CIA black bag op...and that is WHY THEY created the cover story of the video...because we wanted the world to think we were neutral or whatever.
Now, they got caught maybe the truth will come out somewhere...its all illegal IMHO...but Obama will never take the fall some dork of an underling will do it for him...for a rich reward later if prison is involved ...
FREEGARDS
LEX


10 posted on 06/21/2013 12:06:59 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: dila813

Which reminds me. Ed Markey voted against funding the Contras after kissing Ortega’s ass.


11 posted on 06/21/2013 12:07:04 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bigtigermike
Seems silly to train terrorists on anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons you have “not decided to give them”.

Obama and his staff are such juvenile liars.

12 posted on 06/21/2013 12:08:06 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Bigtigermike

#1 covert action Pres in us history. By far.


13 posted on 06/21/2013 12:09:06 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Any idiot foolish enough to take the fall for Bammy forgets that a 9mm bullet is a cheaper payoff than big bucks after prison. It would be the same as signing your own death warrant with the history of the pack of criminals we call the executive branch.


14 posted on 06/21/2013 12:10:39 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: stockpirate

The guy has been committing treason since day one, but because we no longer have a Repub. party but a RINO party, he gets away with it. Don’t forget: His very first day in office January 20th 2009, the very FIRST thing he did above everything else, was try and close down Gitmo. Above EVERYTHING else, his #1 priority was assisting terrorists and he’s never stopped since then. And they’re not doing too bad are they? Now they control Egypt and Libya: Two formerly neutral countries are now in the hands of the Islamo Nazis with Syria next. So now instead of one Iran, we got 4 Irans who will be threatening Israel and the US non stop.


15 posted on 06/21/2013 12:11:43 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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If I am to believe this article, we've been supplying training with heavy weapons, but not supplying heavy weapons. Are we that stupid? Perhaps. The obvious assumption is that we've been supplying weapons, financing unknown, but there have been no reports of the rebels confronting Syrian tanks or aircraft. Doesn't fit. That we've been training the terrorists in Jordan and Turkey is old news, I suspect the heavy weapons part is fabrication, but who knows.

16 posted on 06/21/2013 12:14:20 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: SJackson

bttt


17 posted on 06/21/2013 12:16:59 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s islamism. And our so-called “conservative” House doesn’t give a damn either.


18 posted on 06/21/2013 12:17:36 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: American in Israel

19 posted on 06/21/2013 12:17:44 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Bigtigermike

We are training Al Queda how to shoot down our own airliners with the Libyan MANPADS that we gave to them.


20 posted on 06/21/2013 12:31:49 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: stockpirate
So our troops have been training terrorists that took thousands of our troops lives and thousands of American lives on 9/11 by order of POTUS and no one sees this as treason.

That's the size of it.

21 posted on 06/21/2013 12:33:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Bigtigermike

“CIA operatives and U.S. special operations troops have been secretly training Syrian rebels with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons”

Great country we are, while our troops are dying in Afghanistan and Iraq at the hands of Al-Qaeda, now our thug government is training Al_Qaeda operatives, so they will be better trained to kill us. You can’t make this $%it up!


22 posted on 06/21/2013 12:37:54 PM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Bigtigermike

The communists were very clear about their need to have the whole world turn socialist. This meant they had to destroy us. That is why we fought them in Nicaragua. Why are we fighting in Syria? Because Syria wants to rule the world?


23 posted on 06/21/2013 12:38:41 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: onedoug

“...And our so-called “conservative” House doesn’t give a damn either....”

It’s not that they don’t give a damn, it’s that they’re in stark fear that their PRISM data will be released to the public. Some call it blackmail, but seeing where it’s politicians, it’s “sensitive data”. Nothing quite like being prismized by the big odongo. The very thought strikes fear in the heart of every Pubbie.


24 posted on 06/21/2013 12:39:31 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Bigtigermike

We have become a rogue nation.


25 posted on 06/21/2013 12:40:55 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: kenmcg

Al Qaeda in the White House.


26 posted on 06/21/2013 12:41:38 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Ray76

Al Qaeda in the White House.
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Yes, and Al Queda on The Potomac to cover all the Obama & Muslim Brotherhood supporters in the Bureaucracy, the Congress, the Media and throughout Washington (paid lobbyists, etc.).


27 posted on 06/21/2013 12:49:08 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: gaijin

#1 covert action Pres in us history. By far.


Overseas and domestically.


28 posted on 06/21/2013 12:49:30 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Benghazi was a funnel for same, arms, training, support, I reckun.. just a hunch.


29 posted on 06/21/2013 12:53:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s OK if Done-While-Democrat.

Haven’t you gotten the Mainstream Media/MediaMatters Memo by now?


30 posted on 06/21/2013 12:57:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: stockpirate

Why not? We armed and trained them before 9/11 too.


31 posted on 06/21/2013 1:15:49 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Bigtigermike

We are now training our enemy. This is like the Jews teaching the Nazi’s how to build fires. This what America has become. A nation run by stupid fools. A nation of idiots who simply have only their own visions of this world in their minds. They learn NOTHING from history. History says this is stupid to do. But, here we go. Both feet. Jump right in. Teach our enemy HOW TO KILL US. ARM our enemies with the weapons TO KILL US. Good grief.


32 posted on 06/21/2013 1:29:51 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: blueunicorn6

< The communists were very clear about their need to have the whole world turn socialist. This meant they had to destroy us. That is why we fought them in Nicaragua. Why are we fighting in Syria? Because Syria wants to rule the world? >

No. Because radical Islam wants to rule the world and they need our help.


33 posted on 06/21/2013 1:33:42 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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I’m under the impression the Syrian rebels are largely al Qaeda.


34 posted on 06/21/2013 1:43:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dila813

Laws mean nothing to Obastard.


35 posted on 06/21/2013 1:43:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Bigtigermike

YOU BETCHA!


36 posted on 06/21/2013 1:49:16 PM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
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To: RetiredArmy

Arming America’s enemies, arming the administration’s allies.


37 posted on 06/21/2013 1:55:17 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: dila813

No, the lesson of Iran-Contra was that the existing laws worked (were sufficient). No new laws were passed. The failure was people, not the laws.

The covert arms sales to Iran violated numerous statutes that restricted the transfer of arms to nations that support international terrorism, principally the Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (Pub. L. No. 90-629, 89 Stat. 1320 [22 U.S.C.A. §§ 2751–2796c (1989 Supp.)]).

By failing to report the Iranian sales to Congress, the Reagan administration had ignored reporting provisions in the 1980 Intelligence Oversight Act (Pub. L. No. 96-450, tit. IV, 407(b) (1), 94 Stat. 1981 [50 U.S.C.A. § 413 (1982)]).

That law required the president to notify Congress in a timely fashion of any “significant anticipated intelligence activity, and to make a formal written “finding” (declaration) that each covert operation was important to national security.

It seems likely that the 0bama Administration “gets” the arms sales reporting statute, which is why 0bama has kept delaying sending heavy arms to the Syrian rebels today (though old M40 anti-tank cannons have made it to them), however, the law requiring the reporting of significant intelligence activity has probably been broken by 0bama’s Administration already.


38 posted on 06/21/2013 1:56:48 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: SJackson

Yes we are that stupid. We have lost America.


39 posted on 06/21/2013 1:57:53 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: forgotten man
We are training Al Queda how to shoot down our own airliners with the Libyan MANPADS that we gave to them.

How stupid is that? When something like that happens, did they think it would be deniable because it wasn't a US missile? We have taken air travel to ridiculous extremes so no one can carry something on a plane, and now we give them the means to shoot one down. And train them to do it!

40 posted on 06/21/2013 1:59:57 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: dila813
I recall that after Iran-Contra that a bunch of laws were passed to make this much more difficult, I wonder if Obama is violating any of these laws?

I certainly won't have to wonder if he's violating any of those laws, because I know he is. Sometimes it's better to be a pessimist.

41 posted on 06/21/2013 2:04:41 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Mr. Heyman concurred: “It’s terribly political. It means the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE OR THE PRESIDENT can stand up before Congress and declare,

‘We do not have any military forces in this area.’ The CIA can do what it has to do in isolation.”...

...Even in Afghanistan, the CIA’s dealings with irregular forces have created problems. In the southeastern city of Khost last month, leaders of two rival militias complained that someone from the United States was paying off both sides to win their cooperation in the war against al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Instead, the militias used the money to purchase weapons, which they then turned against each other.

Col. King denied that the U.S. military had anything to do with such payments. He said the denial did not necessarily extend to “OTHER U.S. GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.”

Reports also have been published linking U.S. government entities to militias involved in the opium trade in Afghanistan. Drug smugglers often can obtain information regarding arms purchases and guerrilla activities, Col. King acknowledged. But he said the U.S. military has a strict policy mandating that there be no dealings with any militia involved in the drug trade....
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2002/021027-cia1.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Activities_Division


42 posted on 06/21/2013 2:05:17 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Bigtigermike

Equivocate- the only way a liar can argue, against the facts. The difference between the Contras, and these Muslim Brotherhood backed syrian bastards, is day and night. The LA Times, a true bastion of pure bullshit, in media accuracy.


43 posted on 06/21/2013 2:18:21 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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“Brig. Gen. Yahya Bittar, who defected as a fighter pilot from Assad’s air force last year and is now head of intelligence for the Free Syrian Army, said training for the last month or so has taken place in Jordan.”

“U.S. Sends Marines to Jordan’s Border With Syria, Times Reports”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-15/u-s-sends-marines-to-jordan-s-border-with-syria-times-reports.html


44 posted on 06/21/2013 2:20:09 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Bigtigermike

Their pretext is that Syria used Sarin...

Did Syria use Sarin?

This UK watchdog group think it’s a political ploy...
http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/alerts-2013/736-a-political-ploy-the-guardian-editors-swallow-us-claims-on-syrian-wmd.html

Kinda ironic considering the battering Bush got...


45 posted on 06/21/2013 2:37:36 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: Bigtigermike

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Vietnam - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum

Kennedy accelerated the flow of American aid and gradually increased U.S. military “advisers” to more than 16,000.

At the same time, he pressed the Diem ...

http://www.jfklibrary.org/JFK/JFK-in-History/Vietnam.aspx - 45k - Cached -

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46 posted on 06/21/2013 2:59:42 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do*s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: Bigtigermike

The last Islamic Caliphate was located in Damascus
Obama intends to restore it with American taxpayer dollars


47 posted on 06/21/2013 2:59:52 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Bigtigermike

Not much of a SECRET if it is on the front page of America’s largest newspapers, is it?


48 posted on 06/21/2013 3:38:48 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Bigtigermike

You cannot hide the truth forever...


49 posted on 06/21/2013 3:48:57 PM PDT by Shady (The Truth will set us free....WE KNOW THE TRUTH!)
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To: forgotten man

They already shot one down....


50 posted on 06/21/2013 3:51:50 PM PDT by Shady (The Truth will set us free....WE KNOW THE TRUTH!)
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