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1 in 12 on Bloomberg’s gun victims list are crime suspects
Washington Examiner ^ | JUNE 21, 2013 | PAUL BEDARD

Posted on 06/21/2013 9:44:55 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Brooklyn Attitude
FYI someone with an early sign up doesnt mean their point is more valid than a recent one.

No, it doesn't. When I see unfamiliar names, I hover my cursor over their name to see the signup date out of habit. See, some of the newer people are here to disrupt.

Have a good one.

21 posted on 06/21/2013 12:07:16 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

You make a good point in one sense...as a portion of a number...which is a valid consideration.

That said, there are other aspects on which to criticize the situation:

That they are so uncritical and unthinking that they include a sizable number who clearly don’t belong, and are willing to use even people who needed to be made dead to support disarming the rest of us. This is pretty egregious, and an obvious example even in the more ‘normal’ situations...without even getting to the outrage with Timerlan.

That they would wish us helpless against even these villains in even these situations where the firearms were needed and ostensibly used properly...even in those situations.


22 posted on 06/21/2013 7:50:54 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“That said, there are other aspects on which to criticize the situation: That they are so uncritical and unthinking that they include a sizable number who clearly don’t belong, and are willing to use even people who needed to be made dead to support disarming the rest of us. This is pretty egregious, and an obvious example even in the more ‘normal’ situations...without even getting to the outrage with Timerlan.”

For decades the anti-gun nuts have been making huge statistical distortions so frankly I am surprised that people get bent out of shape at a MERE 8 percent.


23 posted on 06/22/2013 10:46:58 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.
...one in 12 are crime suspects killed by police or armed citizens acting in self-defense.

24 posted on 06/22/2013 5:21:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: neverdem
The police in Allegheny county, Pennsylvania have stated in the Tribune review newspaper that 80% of gun homicides commited in the county are drug related.
25 posted on 06/22/2013 7:18:54 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: cripplecreek
For instance Detroit has a very high murder rate but it also has the highest justifiable homicide rate (about 5 per week) which is statistically counted as murder.

Crime stats only include criminal homicides, which exclude justifiable homicides (i.e. self-defense and typical cop-related shootings).

26 posted on 06/23/2013 9:47:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Crime stats only include criminal homicides, which exclude justifiable homicides (i.e. self-defense and typical cop-related shootings).

So where are you getting your crime stats at, I'd love to see them.
27 posted on 06/23/2013 9:51:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

UCR definitions are here:

http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/handbook/ucrhandbook04.pdf

You can get crime data submitted to the FBI at city-data. Just type the city name and add “city data” to your google search. The nice thing about city-data is you get 10 years’ worth. San Diego PD has data going back to the 50’s. Per capita violent crime tripled in the 60’s and went far higher in the 70’s and 80’s, but have now settled back to the high 60’s rate. This is why news bureaus always talk about crime rates having gone back to 60’s rates, as if the nation has become a land of Mayberry’s. In reality, crime rates are historically high relative to the 50’s and before, and obviously much higher than in Western Europe.

San Diego stats:

http://www.sandiego.gov/police/pdf/2013/UCRRates1950to2012.pdf


28 posted on 06/23/2013 10:16:55 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: pax_et_bonum

“So is this what you’d think if your boss decided to give you an 8% reduction in salary?”
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That caught my eye because 32 years ago I worked for a company that was in financial trouble. They actually DID cut everyone’s pay by EIGHT percent. In my case this came immediately after I had just gotten a seven percent merit increase. As I recall I had one paycheck with my raise on it and then got cut back to slightly LESS than my old rate. We did not appreciate it! They made an error though, they promised in writing that this was temporary and everyone would be repaid in the future for wages lost during the cut. The feds ruled that this made it a forced loan from the employees to the company and so constituted extortion and they had to immediately restore everyone to their former pay level. By that time I was working for another company so I never got my money back.


29 posted on 06/24/2013 5:48:03 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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