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Obama's Berlin speech: History raises the stakes
Associated Press ^ | June 19, 2013 | JIM KUHNHENN

Posted on 06/18/2013 11:51:27 PM PDT by presidio9

Five years and 50 years. As President Barack Obama revisits Berlin, he can't escape those anniversaries and the inevitable comparisons to history and personal achievement.

His 26-hour whirlwind visit to the German capital caps three days of international summitry for the president and marks his return to a place where he once summoned a throng of 200,000 to share his ambitious vision for American leadership.

That was 2008, when Obama was running for president and those who supported him at home and abroad saw the young mixed-race American as a unifying and transformational figure who signified hope and change.

Five years later, Obama comes to deliver a highly anticipated speech to a country that's a bit more sober about his aspirations and the extent of his successes, yet still eager to receive his attention at a time that many here feel that Europe, and Germany in particular, are no longer U.S. priorities. A Pew Research Center poll of Germans found that while their views of the U.S. have slipped since Obama's first year in office, he has managed to retain his popularity, with 88 percent of those surveyed approving of his foreign policies.

Obama also has an arc of history to fulfill.

Fifty years ago next week, President John F. Kennedy addressed a crowd of 450,000 in that then-divided city to denounce the Soviet bloc and famously declare "Ich bin ein Berliner," German for "I am a Berliner." Since then, presidents from Ronald Reagan to Bill Clinton have used Berlin speeches to articulate broad themes about freedom and international alliances.

Obama -SNIP- will speak at the Brandenburg Gate, a symbol of Germany's division and later reunification. It is a venue that German Chancellor Angela Merkel denied him in 2008, saying only sitting presidents were granted such an honor.

-SNIP-

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asspress; benghazi; bho; buttociatedpress; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; obamaingermany; pravdamedia

1 posted on 06/18/2013 11:51:27 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Will he attract a crowd of 45?


2 posted on 06/18/2013 11:52:51 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: presidio9

If he wishes to emulate Kennedy’s speech he would more appropriately deliver it in Hamburg.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 11:56:10 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Idiocracy is a documentary.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Shithausen would be the most appropriate place.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 11:58:22 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Cvengr
He got heckled at his first one!

They came for jelly doughnuts but all they got was a kenyan goat herder! Listen to the crowd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV_Xg8pmpJE .19sec

5 posted on 06/19/2013 12:01:44 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: Cvengr; Jeff Chandler; laplata

AP reporter Jim Kuhnhenn: “Fifty years ago next week, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy (peace be unto him) gave the most memorable and historical speech in the history of presidential speeches at the Brandenburg gate...

...Oh, and I think Ronald Reagan stopped by there once too. But nobody really remembers what he said or talked about. Also, Bill Clinton spoke there.”

Dumbass.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 12:04:04 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: laplata; Jeff Chandler
Shithausen would be the most appropriate place.

I was thinking Landsberg.
7 posted on 06/19/2013 12:09:32 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: presidio9
...famously declare "Ich bin ein Berliner," German for "I am a Berliner."

Twit... more like "I am a jelly donut."

8 posted on 06/19/2013 12:09:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Some wag came up with the jelly donut jibe well after the speech. “Berliner” was in fact a correct German construct for “citizen of Berlin.” That would be like poking fun at a foreign dignitary who spoke of Manhattan because Manhattan is also a kind of cocktail.


9 posted on 06/19/2013 12:13:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: presidio9
That was 2008, when Obama was running for president and those who supported him at home and abroad saw the young mixed-race American as a unifying and transformational figure who signified hope and change.


With Fräulein Bonesky
during his Victory Lap in the Summer of 2008

http://www.bild.de/news/bild-english/news/with-barack-obama-before-his-speech-in-berlin-5262458.bild.html

10 posted on 06/19/2013 12:14:41 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Don’t care if she did enjoy the workout. She’s still not guilty.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 12:15:50 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
IIRC, a "Berliner" was a cream filled donut in popular parlance at the time there, too.

Sure, it was a gibe, we all know what Kennedy meant, and that he was trying to push a sense of solidarity with the people of West Berlin.

12 posted on 06/19/2013 12:21:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: presidio9
Ich bin ein Moslimer.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 12:22:40 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: presidio9

...Oh, and I think Ronald Reagan stopped by there once too. But nobody really remembers what he said or talked about.


Disgusting.


14 posted on 06/19/2013 12:23:24 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: presidio9

(VIDEO) Hitler finds out Obama ate his dog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEBN8wOKjMo


15 posted on 06/19/2013 12:24:14 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: presidio9

Something about “tear down this wall!” is memorable.

Moreso than “Ich bin ein Berliner” (”I am a jelly donut”, when he probably meant to say “ I am (born from) Berlin(-er) (German)”

(were the 450,000 in attendance laughing at him when he used the indefinite article, thinking to themselves,...”Well you don’t look like a jelly donut,...chuckle, chuckle,..applause for the guy who means well but doesn’t get it.....)


16 posted on 06/19/2013 12:27:13 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I think the GySgt was thinking about Ich bin ein Berliner when he was looking at Private Pyle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NP8y63Ms4o


17 posted on 06/19/2013 12:30:56 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: presidio9

With Obamacare, and its death panels, as well as arming Israel’s enemies and the war against Christians, Buchenwald might have been a better choice.


18 posted on 06/19/2013 12:38:08 AM PDT by teacherwoes (this tag has been approved by the NSA)
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To: Cvengr

Whatever the interpetation- JFK did turn into a jellied donut. Right?


19 posted on 06/19/2013 12:46:06 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: presidio9

Obama to Berliners- East Germany was on the right path with that Communism. What does it matter Freedom? That’s a negative idea.


20 posted on 06/19/2013 12:50:15 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: presidio9
Wow - one thing sure jumped out at me.

The Associated Press called Obama a “mixed race” American.

Is the Mainstream Media finally retreating from its comical fantasy that Obama is the first “Black” president?

21 posted on 06/19/2013 12:57:01 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: presidio9

Ich bin ein communist?


22 posted on 06/19/2013 1:09:00 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Cvengr

JFK Berlin speech error debunked;

http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/jfk_berliner.htm


23 posted on 06/19/2013 1:29:14 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: RedHeeler

Something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JduR-9sHk8w


24 posted on 06/19/2013 1:31:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: zeestephen
That caught my eye also.

Maybe AP's pissed off about this administration grabbing it's phone records.

When the band plays "Hail to the Cheif", they're pointing the cannon at you.


25 posted on 06/19/2013 1:54:21 AM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: presidio9

He’s coming with a C30 transport full of obama phones. Some could actually be used as phones or traded in for cash to buy a luis viton bag or some heroin. Lucas and Spielberg will be on hand to computer generate the crowd he deserves.


26 posted on 06/19/2013 2:20:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: presidio9

How appropriate. The world’s closet antiSemite,
and absolute Impostor, and violator of private conversations,
going to GERMANY ... to plan the destruction of freedom.


27 posted on 06/19/2013 3:36:53 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Some wag came up with the jelly donut jibe well after the speech."

Not true at all. If you say: "I am Danish", everyone knows you are a person from Denmark. If you say "I am a Danish", everyone knows that you are calling yourself a sugar coated breakfast roll.

In German, it's even more important to avoid the "ein" in "Ich bin ein Berliner". "Berliner" is indeed, one who was born in Berlin. "Ein Berliner" is just as certainly a Jelly Doughnut. "Ich bin Hamburger" tells us that you were born in Hamburg. "I am a hamburger" says......... Well, you figure it out.

28 posted on 06/19/2013 3:39:16 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Actually, it is more like “Danish”, as in “I am a Danish” vs “I am Danish”. The correct way to say “I am a Berliner” is “Ich bin Berliner”.


29 posted on 06/19/2013 3:56:12 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: rawcatslyentist

They were there for a rock concert, not to see the magical mixed race negro


30 posted on 06/19/2013 3:59:52 AM PDT by winodog
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To: presidio9

“saw the young mixed-race American as a unifying and transformational figure who signified hope and change”

He was a black American four years ago, according to the writer now—he was mixed race and I’m sure he’ll be called white by the time he leaves office in disgrace. “Can’t have a black failure, can we?


31 posted on 06/19/2013 4:08:20 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: presidio9
mixed-race

Which is it? Is he our first black President or just the darkest skinned to date? Liberals are so racist it isn't even funny.

32 posted on 06/19/2013 4:25:18 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: presidio9
His 26-hour whirlwind visit to the German capital caps three days of international summitry for the president and marks his return to a place
where he once summoned a throng of 200,000 to share his ambitious vision for American leadership.
 
What a piker!!!
 
 
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33 posted on 06/19/2013 4:51:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: presidio9; Revolting cat!
Who's playing the free concert necessary to attract a crowd of young people?

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34 posted on 06/19/2013 7:41:44 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Jeff Chandler
If he wishes to emulate Kennedy’s speech he would more appropriately deliver it in Hamburg.

"Ich bin ein Hamburger."


35 posted on 06/19/2013 8:58:17 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Idiocracy is a documentary.)
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To: freeangel

“...transformational figure...”

Ha!! I remember that phrase being thrown about everywhere, from all the good little totally interchangeable, completely replaceable liberal talking head sock puppets.


36 posted on 06/19/2013 9:41:29 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Substitute “Arschloch” or even “Scheiße Kopf” for hamburger and he’d be right on the money.


37 posted on 06/19/2013 9:44:44 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: presidio9

How did we know the Asspress would write such worshipful steaming drivel?


38 posted on 06/19/2013 11:43:54 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Cvengr
No. West Berliners in 1963 absolutely got what Kennedy meant. They didn't care about the jelly donut pun. Those were times when they could see Soviet tanks across the street, with main guns aimed at them, and border guards with submachine guns glaring at them from the barricade. It was a different time and a different world.
39 posted on 06/19/2013 6:13:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Those were times when they could see Soviet tanks across the street, with main guns aimed at them, and border guards with submachine guns glaring at them from the barricade. It was a different time and a different world.

Yep....at least then we had a purpose and we stood for something. These days, I have no idea what we stand for.

40 posted on 06/19/2013 6:15:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cvengr; laplata

I guarantee you the residents of Berlin today, liberal as they may be, place a lot more importance on “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” than they ever did on “”Ich bin ein Berliner.” But they don’t work for AssPress of course.


41 posted on 06/19/2013 8:28:48 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

I think you’re right.

I hope they remember and appreciate the Berlin Airlift more than they’ll ever remember the disgusting Obama.


42 posted on 06/19/2013 8:38:21 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: presidio9

"Ich Bin Ein Frankfurter!"


43 posted on 06/19/2013 8:40:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yeah, more Wiener jokes.


44 posted on 06/19/2013 8:44:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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