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State verifies signatures for recall; Morse files protest (CO gun grabber recalled!!!)
The Gazette ^ | June 18, 2013 | Megan Schrader

Posted on 06/18/2013 4:56:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA

DENVER - BY MEGAN SCHRADER

megan.schrader@gazette.com

Enough signatures were verified Tuesday to make Senate President John Morse the first state-level elected official to face a recall election, but Morse isn't going to ballot without a fight.

The secretary of state's office verified that 10,137 registered voters in Senate District 11 - west and central Colorado Springs - signed a petition to recall Morse through a election.

Only 7,178 signatures are necessary to take the issue to voters in coming months.

But a voter in Morse's district challenged the petition a few hours after the signatures were verified Tuesday, saying it did not include all the language required under law.

Catherine Kleinsmith filed the protest because the circulated petition didn't specifically demand the election of a successor for Morse. Her protest says the omission of that language invalidates every signature submitted to the state.

"It's just so ironic that these interests, seeking to force an election that most District 11 voters don't want, would skip over key portions of the Colorado Constitution," said Christy LeLait, executive director of the El Paso County Democratic Party, who is also managing Morse's campaign to stay in office.

If the issue does go to ballot voters will first be asked whether Morse should be kicked out of office and, if so, who should replace him. Alternative candidates can get their names on the ballot to contest the incumbent.

Morse was targeted for recall by a group called El Paso Freedom Defense Fund over his support of several gun laws and his leadership style which they said stifled public debate on the legislation.

"We were expecting the most frivolous legal challenges to this and we're prepared to fight this," said a new spokesperson for the group Jessica Kerns, of Denver who opposed the gun legislation at the Capitol this spring. "We're prepared to defend every single petition so that the peoples' voices can be heard."

Three other democrats faced recall petition drives but only Sen. Angela Giron, D-Pueblo, had signatures turned in to be verified by the state. An announcement is expected in coming weeks whether 11,500 of the 13,500 signatures turned in are valid registered voters in Giron's district.

In the Morse recall drive 16,198 signatures were turned in and of those 6,061 were rejected for a variety of issues including signers not living in the district or not being a registered voter.

Kleinsmith's appeal will be ruled upon by Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler. His ruling could be appealed in court and should the Democrats be unsuccessful, Morse still is entitled to a 15-day period to challenge the signatures for other reasons.

If challenges to the signatures are unsuccessful a recall election likely would be held in August.

These would be the first state-level elected officials to face a recall vote in Colorado, according to Joshua Spivak, a professor at Wagner College in New York who tracks and studies recall efforts.

If no protests to the recall are successful, the governor will set a date for the election during a 30 day window that begins roughly two months after Tuesday.

According to the El Paso County Clerk and Recorder's Election Office it will cost the county roughly $152,000 to hold a stand-alone election for the recall.

Contact Megan Schrader

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; democrats; elections; guncontrol; morse; recall; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
Keep fighting CO!!!
1 posted on 06/18/2013 4:56:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

What kinda language?

Arabic?


2 posted on 06/18/2013 4:58:25 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: ConservativeInPA

In the Morse recall drive 16,198 signatures were turned in and of those 6,061 were rejected for a variety of issues including signers not living in the district or not being a registered voter.


Sure looks like the dirty tricks squad was being super-active. It’s a good thing they were able to get the right number of valid signatures after all.


3 posted on 06/18/2013 4:58:59 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

They do not fight fair. Actually, in many cases they are too stooopid to fight fair. Take Diana DeGette, that frickin’ wench thinks magazines are thrown away after all the bullets are fired. And she is making laws. That is not fair. How do you abuse a person like DeGette without being called a sexist or worse.


4 posted on 06/18/2013 5:06:13 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: The Working Man

The Secretary of State’s review is very picky. A lot of people don’t know what Senate district they live in or if their registration has lapsed, so you will always get invalid signatures. On the other hand, the review is so picky I doubt Morse’s challenge will stand.


5 posted on 06/18/2013 5:13:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ConservativeInPA

Isn’t a replacement a given? Why would it have to be specified? Seems like a frivolous excuse.


6 posted on 06/18/2013 5:14:22 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: skr
Seems like a frivolous excuse.

It sounds frivolous to me. Even if they didn't have enough valid recall signatures, I believe, there is a clause in the law that allows the petition to continue for a specified period of time (I think it is two weeks). If the whole thing is invalidated, they can still start fresh, and this time people will be even more pissed off.

7 posted on 06/18/2013 5:19:21 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA
(CO gun grabber recalled!!!)

Cart before the horse. Morse hasn't been recalled yet.

CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF COLORADO
ARTICLE XXI RECALL FROM OFFICE

Colo. Const. Art. XXI, Section 1 (2012)

Section 1. State officers may be recalled

Every elective public officer of the state of Colorado may be recalled from office at any time by the registered electors entitled to vote for a successor of such incumbent through the procedure and in the manner herein provided for, which procedure shall be known as the recall, and shall be in addition to and without excluding any other method of removal provided by law.

The procedure hereunder to effect the recall of an elective public officer shall be as follows:

A petition signed by registered electors entitled to vote for a successor of the incumbent sought to be recalled, equal in number to twenty-five percent of the entire vote cast at the last preceding election for all candidates for the position which the incumbent sought to be recalled occupies, demanding an election of the successor to the officer named in said petition, shall be filed in the office in which petitions for nominations to office held by the incumbent sought to be recalled are required to be filed; provided, if more than one person is required by law to be elected to fill the office of which the person sought to be recalled is an incumbent, then the said petition shall be signed by registered electors entitled to vote for a successor to the incumbent sought to be recalled equal in number to twenty-five percent of the entire vote cast at the last preceding general election for all candidates for the office, to which the incumbent sought to be recalled was elected as one of the officers thereof, said entire vote being divided by the number of all officers elected to such office, at the last preceding general election; and such petition shall contain a general statement, in not more than two hundred words, of the ground or grounds on which such recall is sought, which statement is intended for the information of the registered electors, and the registered electors shall be the sole and exclusive judges of the legality, reasonableness and sufficiency of such ground or grounds assigned for such recall, and said ground or grounds shall not be open to review.

Section 2. Form of recall petition

Any recall petition may be circulated and signed in sections, provided each section shall contain a full and accurate copy of the title and text of the petition; and such recall petition shall be filed in the office in which petitions for nominations to office held by the incumbent sought to be recalled are required to be filed.

The signatures to such recall petition need not all be on one sheet of paper, but each signer must add to his signature the date of his signing said petition, and his place of residence, giving his street number, if any, should he reside in a town or city. The person circulating such sheet must make and subscribe an oath on said sheet that the signatures thereon are genuine, and a false oath, willfully so made and subscribed by such person, shall be perjury and be punished as such. All petitions shall be deemed and held to be sufficient if they appear to be signed by the requisite number of signers, and such signers shall be deemed and held to be registered electors, unless a protest in writing under oath shall be filed in the office in which such petition has been filed, by some registered elector, within fifteen days after such petition is filed, setting forth specifically the grounds of such protest, whereupon the officer with whom such petition is filed shall forthwith mail a copy of such protest to the person or persons named in such petition as representing the signers thereof, together with a notice fixing a time for hearing such protest not less than five nor more than ten days after such notice is mailed. All hearings shall be before the officer with whom such protest is filed, and all testimony shall be under oath. Such hearings shall be summary and not subject to delay, and must be concluded within thirty days after such petition is filed, and the result thereof shall be forthwith certified to the person or persons representing the signers of such petition. In case the petition is not sufficient it may be withdrawn by the person or a majority of the persons representing the signers of such petition, and may, within fifteen days thereafter, be amended and refiled as an original petition. The finding as to the sufficiency of any petition may be reviewed by any state court of general jurisdiction in the county in which such petition is filed, upon application of the person or a majority of the persons representing the signers of such petition, but such review shall be had and determined forthwith. The sufficiency, or the determination of the sufficiency, of the petition referred to in this section shall not be held, or construed, to refer to the ground or grounds assigned in such petition for the recall of the incumbent sought to be recalled from office thereby.

When such petition is sufficient, the officer with whom such recall petition was filed, shall forthwith submit said petition, together with a certificate of its sufficiency to the governor, who shall thereupon order and fix the date for holding the election not less than thirty days nor more than sixty days from the date of submission of said petition; provided, if a general election is to be held within ninety days after the date of submission of said petition, the recall election shall be held as part of said general election.

8 posted on 06/18/2013 5:22:39 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Suddenly “the will of the voters” doesn’t mean squat. Not that I’d expect them to understand the difference between making a principled argument and mouthing convenient platitudes. It just ain’t in ‘em.


9 posted on 06/18/2013 5:22:53 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The local news sites aren’t really covering this story.
So, I’m posting it all over their message boards.
Heh-heh!


10 posted on 06/18/2013 5:24:23 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: RandallFlagg

Pound them! Either we fight with words today or we will have to use other much uglier methods tomorrow.


11 posted on 06/18/2013 5:28:33 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Throw the bum out!


12 posted on 06/18/2013 5:37:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I’m on it, FRiend.
Every.
Single.
Day.

(The benefits of being a hermit -with a great Wife that doesn’t mind)


13 posted on 06/18/2013 5:40:17 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: ConservativeInPA

And the rat runs to the court begging for cover. Which will only further infuriate his thinking non-parasite constituents. I just hope that there are enough of them.


14 posted on 06/18/2013 5:42:17 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: RandallFlagg
The local news sites aren’t really covering this story.

I assume that's because this is a (D) being recalled?

15 posted on 06/18/2013 5:42:26 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

A gun control loving (D).

Absolutely!


16 posted on 06/18/2013 5:44:48 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
A petition (1) signed by registered electors entitled to vote for a successor of the incumbent sought to be recalled, (2) in number to twenty-five percent of the entire vote cast at the last preceding election for all candidates for the position which the incumbent sought to be recalled occupies, (3) demanding an election of the successor to the officer named in said petition, shall be filed in the office...

Three requirements for a Recall Petition, and the circulators omit one of them? It may be that there is more to the story, but that looks an elementary error.

17 posted on 06/18/2013 5:55:09 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: ConservativeInPA

Reap the wirlwind, eh?


18 posted on 06/18/2013 6:00:56 PM PDT by glock rocks (Matt 18:20)
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To: ConservativeInPA
In the Morse recall drive 16,198 signatures were turned in and of those 6,061 were rejected for a variety of issues including signers not living in the district or not being a registered voter.
Interesting that when the Democrat has a vested interested, they can so quickly validate each person signing, but when it's not in their interest (i.e. during the election), they oppose even a simple ID check.
19 posted on 06/18/2013 6:25:33 PM PDT by Scutter
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To: ConservativeInPA

Bloomberg is going all in on this. MAIG money for lawyers, bribes, booze, hookers etc. Tossing the Senate president because of the gun grab will stick in hizzonors craw.

I need to buy more beer. This will get good.


20 posted on 06/18/2013 6:48:55 PM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: ConservativeInPA
"According to the El Paso County Clerk and Recorder's Election Office it will cost the county roughly $152,000 to hold a stand-alone election for the recall."

Funny, that the commies are complaining. The anti-Second-Amendment political/regulator class is probably pouring more than that into their failing efforts in the Springs.


21 posted on 06/18/2013 6:59:52 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

I didn’t consider the of the economic impact of the recall. Just goes to show you that freedom is not free. Better money than blood.


22 posted on 06/18/2013 7:03:16 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

But according to the demoCRATs, all 11 of the recall elections in WI (including the recall election of Gov Scott Walker apparently were all completely honest & justified. Geez, just when you think you could hate democRATs any more than you already do.... They are pure, unadulterated evil!!!


23 posted on 06/18/2013 7:47:21 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: ConservativeInPA

Agreed. Well said.


24 posted on 06/18/2013 7:47:59 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: rcrngroup

Geez, just when you think you couldn’t hate democRATs any more than you already do.... They are pure, unadulterated evil!!!


25 posted on 06/18/2013 7:49:44 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: skr

Ironically this is what separates the pubbies from the libs. The pubbies think in broad strokes and focus on the big picture while the libs nit-pick and hair-split.

When Washington state had its governorship stolen by the left we mounted a re-vote campaign. The same thing happened where the libs scrutinized both petitions and statutes and then would file objections based on the slightest of technical errors.

Since the entire state is ruled by the left (right up to the supreme court) most of the objections stuck and we would find ourselves right back at square one. It pays to retain the best liars, er, lawyers that money can buy!


26 posted on 06/18/2013 7:50:23 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Who cares.Its a leftist wench.Let ‘em have it.


27 posted on 06/18/2013 8:50:49 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: nascarnation

We have a saying down here in the south and that is”He’ll look real good with that broke off in his arse.


28 posted on 06/18/2013 8:53:20 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rockrr
The pubbies think in broad strokes and focus on the big picture while the libs nit-pick and hair-split.

The left only hair-splits (typically in court) when they lack an advantage in popular support.

29 posted on 06/19/2013 7:11:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: Convert, submit, or die.)
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To: Pilsner

The Dems are trying to play word games. The petition clearly states “recall” and lays out the reasons why. In Colorado law, a “recall” is a term defined by law and specifically defines a election of a sitting official.


30 posted on 06/19/2013 8:45:30 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ConservativeInPA

He’s not recalled until he loses the recall election.


31 posted on 06/19/2013 9:45:11 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: skr

First the petitions are verified, then an election date is set, then Morse loses the recall election, he loses office, then there is another election to replace him. Only then is there an election with candidate choice on a ballot.


32 posted on 06/19/2013 9:50:30 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: The Working Man

Always get twice the signatures you need.


33 posted on 06/19/2013 1:03:10 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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