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Judge: Obama sex assault comments 'unlawful command influence'
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Posted on 06/14/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by Perdogg

Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week

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To: OldNewYork
Unlawful Command Influence

THAT sounds like a good title for a book, too.

61 posted on 06/14/2013 5:02:50 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Hulka

Excellent point! Wonder if Zimmerman’s defense will pick up on this juicy precedent?


62 posted on 06/14/2013 5:20:11 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: holden

Agreed. Given his background in Con Law, it does look a lot like an act of intentional legal sabotage to me. And what a happy coincidence for him it fits perfectly with his long term goal of disemboweling our military.


63 posted on 06/14/2013 5:30:23 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ...

(( ping )) the old Haditha crew.

Check this out.


64 posted on 06/14/2013 5:44:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: manc

Where are you getting your data on male/male rapes in the military?


65 posted on 06/14/2013 6:11:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Perdogg

Any commander who makes such comments can have this happen. In Germany back in the 1980s there was a huge matter where several convictions were overturned by the military courts of appeal because of a general officer who made comments regarding several trails in session. The soldiers were convicted and sentenced by the courts. However, If I remember right, the appeals courts said that the commanders comments influenced those officers and enlisted jury members on the trials. If a commander says he wants them convicted, jailed and kicked out of the military. That is command influence. This makes the jury members maybe afraid that if THEY don’t give the general what he WANTS, then they might suffer the consequences. Obama opened his trap here and that is command influence. So the big lawyer, who never when to law school in the first place, screwed the pooch here.


66 posted on 06/14/2013 6:15:33 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: 1010RD

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/20/victims-of-sex-assaults-in-military-are-mostly-sil/

http://www.bing.com/search?q=sexual+assaults+on+men++in+military&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=sexual+assaults+on+men+in+military&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=

there has been quite a few links on here about it too


67 posted on 06/14/2013 6:20:55 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Perdogg

OBAMA’S WAR ON WOMEN??


68 posted on 06/14/2013 6:22:41 PM PDT by HKMk23 (ERIC SNOWDEN == GUY MONTAG)
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To: 1010RD

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/majority-sexual-assaults-rapes-committed-military-2011-men-article-1.1150235

homosexuals are now using the military to rape other men and not a damn media outlet in TV is pointing that fact out , instead they refer to the rapes on women.

now they want to prey on little boys in the scouts, we had a school bus homosexual driver also busted for trying to have sex with a boy and he also hosted a under age party last year and got away with it while giving drugs and beer to the boys

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2013-03-20/county-bus-driver-richard-copeland-among-those-arrested-child-sex-sting


69 posted on 06/14/2013 6:23:53 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; ...

I remain convinced that DOD, from the SecDef through the SecNav and on down the line vilified the Haditha Marines pushing for convictions they hoped would satisfy Iraqi tribal leaders.

They weren’t as above board as Obama was with this statement. They did it behind closed doors.


70 posted on 06/14/2013 6:39:43 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Perdogg

Looks like someone is going to get a big fat IRS audit soon...


71 posted on 06/14/2013 7:04:45 PM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members http://www.freerepublic.com/foof the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: Perdogg





IT NOT UNLEGAL IFFEN I DO'S IT

72 posted on 06/14/2013 7:06:04 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do*s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: rhoda_penmark

Freudian slipe? ; )


73 posted on 06/14/2013 7:09:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Lancey Howard

I saw that earlier, Lancey. obama is a moron.


75 posted on 06/14/2013 7:31:37 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: madison10

Indeed. Hopefully it will be written in English in our lifetimes, rather than in Mandarin, Russian, or Arabic, after.


76 posted on 06/14/2013 7:33:35 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: xzins

Could be, xzins. The one judge did find the appearance of it in Chessani’s case.

Regarding this case, Obama needs some training in how the military justice system works since he is CIC.


77 posted on 06/14/2013 7:40:51 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: xzins; RedRover; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; lilycicero
...pushing for convictions they hoped would satisfy Iraqi tribal leaders.

Murtha was an Iraqi tribal leader? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. :o)

78 posted on 06/14/2013 7:42:19 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Girlene; Lancey Howard; xzins
thanx for the ping lancey hi x girl is going to give a quiz on how to spot a traitor ok girl i am done with my nap and ready for the quix btw during my nap i dreamed a little dream


79 posted on 06/14/2013 7:43:08 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: Perdogg

Doesn’t really matter. Rather than a punitive DD or a BCD, they get the “administrative” characterization of “Under Other Than Honorable”...

Still no VA benefits (or VERY minimal ones), AFAIK.


80 posted on 06/14/2013 7:43:10 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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