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Could Syria ignite World War 3? two Muslim ideologies suck in the world's superpowers
DailyMail ^ | June 13, 2013 | Micheal Burleigh

Posted on 06/13/2013 10:43:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

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To: Tennessee Nana

I suspect Syria is a red line with Russia and China. Syria is the lynchpin to surrounding Iran. Iran certainly is a lynchpin for China, being a out of the US orbit and having a lot of oil.


21 posted on 06/13/2013 11:25:57 PM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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To: pax_et_bonum

>> This is syrias.

Syrias Shiite every Sunnis day.


22 posted on 06/13/2013 11:28:30 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Olog-hai

No, I’m afraid CIA is not taking orders from Al-Qada.


23 posted on 06/13/2013 11:41:24 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Obviously a racist...


24 posted on 06/13/2013 11:42:33 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: munin
Or more likely in my mind it is the other way around, in the last few years, the CIA has become under new management, and the new boss -not like the old boss

CIA was the creation of the financial oligarchy; just look up the resumes of it's founders. Straight out of new world order / global banking, etc.

The financial oligarchy - for centuries - has practiced controlling the espionage operations of nations. It's necessary to control the nation's leadership.

You can find out some good eye-opening information by listening to or reading Antony Sutton. He was an academic in the belly of the beast and had a great deal of quality original research on the financial oligarchy's actual, real documented moves in business and international politics.

The leadership of the CIA spans many Presidents. As Presidents come and go, CIA leadership, plans strategies all continue internally with no oversight or even knowledge of what they're doing. They make reports, but their leadership chooses what to include and exclude from reports.

Financial oligarchy elites in the private sector are the kingpins that have been running America for well over a century. Their minions are the experts that outlast Presidents.
25 posted on 06/13/2013 11:48:32 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

All that needs to be answered is whose agenda is being advanced. The CIA having the goal of establishing an Islamic caliphate would be highly unlikely; therefore, since the goals of al-Qa’eda are being advanced, they are the controlling entity.


26 posted on 06/13/2013 11:49:37 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Make no mistake...with certainty at some point Damascus will be leveled. There’s no telling this will be so in this conflict but it’s an idea of what it look like running up to it.

...but important to keep a strong eye on Putin.... He’s playing his hand and salivating about now. He’s also got his fleet in the Med.

Coupled with this is Irans election Friday...which plays into the equation.

This all could go very hot...diplomacy ahead doesn’t look promising when the big boys meet.


27 posted on 06/13/2013 11:53:14 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Indeed it’s certain that Damascus’ fate will end up as prophesied in Isaiah 17. It isn’t the event that triggers the Tribulation, though; that’s described in Zechariah 14. Nations are already starting to rise against nations.


28 posted on 06/13/2013 11:57:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

But historically nations have always been rising against other nations. I prefere the “thief in the night” Biblical quote when thinking about the Apocalypse.


29 posted on 06/14/2013 12:01:03 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Tennessee Nana
By golly Nana, I'm gonna become a miserable peacenik anti-war protestor like mad now after the way they treated even a liberal Repellican President for invading Iraq! It's "Obama Lied & People Died" and all their miserable phony tripe thrown right back in their red faces!!!

I'll smear the bassipes with their assinine war at every opportunity except I won't torment the families of the dead warriors or the hoplessly disabled warriors. I think everybody has "turned the other cheek" to those liberal barbarians entirely too often and now they need their own medicine in spades!!!

This the wish of the old SierraWasp who now has turned his attention back to the faith of his father and grandfather and away from the foolishness and folly of quibling with the queer quislings amongst the lame brained liberals and most Demonicrats.

I couldn't deal with these creeple people anymore and now am restoring my relationship with the only one who has the power to truly change things in my life!!! The determined demons doing the Devil's work are driving to their goal line like it was the last few seconds of sudden death overtime, because in fact it is. I want to be on the winning side in the end, with honest to goodness peace.

30 posted on 06/14/2013 12:02:34 AM PDT by SierraWasp ("Bitter Ender," "Bitter Clinger," Yes on both. COUNT ME IN!!! I love God and guns, but not gayness!!)
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To: TexGrill

Don’t get the “wars and rumors of wars” prophecy mixed up with “nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom”, the latter being a key sign. Certainly the breakdown of peace (relatively speaking) will be rapid and without warning, i.e. for those not paying attention (it’ll certainly take the libs by surprise).


31 posted on 06/14/2013 12:05:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m sure the apocalypse will take me by surprise too and I’m not a Lib. I think it’s important we keep a level head over these issues in the Middle East. If not, we start looking like Alex Jones and then we become a subject of mockery.


32 posted on 06/14/2013 12:08:34 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Well just like with the Muslim Brotherhood...the powers that are moving this beast in the Middle East believe they can control them for a time..and that’s possible though arrogant and dangerous thinking....

Syria, like Egypt, Libya, Iraq and Iran,...have all been obstacles in the way of Globalist Agenda. Their leadership would not play so they are no longer in power, or on their way out.

Globalist must include the Mid-East nations for the oil revenues...the Muslim Brotherhood have been the only “organized” group strong enough and large enough to manipulate. Arranging them in positions of authority more as a holding place while the Globalist line the other nations and their revenues and resources into place.

Again these are dangerous moves to make but they’re working with what they have. The concern of the Caliphat by most is seen by the Globalists as a another “Block” of nations which will be considered among the other nation “Blocks” as things roll into place. Globalists foolishly believe they can control....and why we see the great lack of concern about Muslim activity.


33 posted on 06/14/2013 12:14:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: Olog-hai

We are a far cry from the Tribulation period....but these are certainly the beginnings spoken of that would come.

There are too many events and placements that need to be positioned before the Tribulation begins...we are not there yet....but one can see what it might ‘look like’ coming together as we also saw in the war with Iraq.

Nations have been rising against nations throughout history....so this is not anything new...what is are the nations in play at this time....

Watching Putin’s hand , which he holds close to his chest and is a serious player in these events now, is important. He’s not involved in Syria for nothing while he sleeps with Iran.


34 posted on 06/14/2013 12:28:45 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“Far cry” with all the global hatred against Israel; seems unlikely. No one will know the day or the hour save the Father, but enough events are foretold that we know when it will be at the door. And we are warned against “put(ting) the evil day far off” as well (Amos 6:3).

There are a few pieces of the puzzle not yet assembled (e.g. Ethiopia being overrun by radical Islam; see Daniel 11:43; also take note of Psalm 83), but it’s far closer than at any other point in history.


35 posted on 06/14/2013 12:34:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: TexGrill

I agree level heads need to prevail...however it sure is interesting to observe the World Stage at this time in light of Prophesy...as it was in the build up to the Iraq war and others along the way.

I often wondered what would raise up Sudan and Ethiopia to come together with the push from the north.....so it’s interesting to watch the issue over the dam/water rights between them and Egypt.

As we know China and Russia see opportunities abound as the US weakens. Both are moving militarily around the world now....without resistance...rather “O” plays the checkmate game. He really doesn’t know the game... which is why he NEVER leads as he believes you lead from the rear....which means he’s a “follower” not a leader.


36 posted on 06/14/2013 12:40:44 AM PDT by caww
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To: Olog-hai

The Sudan is already Islamic, and Ethiopia following suite before too long I suspect. As mentioned prior...the water rights issue with the Dam they are building has become a major issue for Egypt, who have clearly stated they will go to war if Ethiopia pushes the issue. So good idea to watch that issue especially with the leadership of Egypt as it is now.


37 posted on 06/14/2013 12:48:51 AM PDT by caww
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To: Tennessee Nana
We have no business taking either side. They are both rotten. This is yet another conflict Obama is dragging us into to drag the country down.
38 posted on 06/14/2013 1:13:32 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: munin
Or more likely in my mind it is the other way around, in the last few years, the CIA has become under new management, and the new boss -not like the old boss

As I've said many times, CIA, as well as its predecessor OSS, is a creation of the financial oligarchy. It's top level management are recommended by Presidential advisors who are are always intimately tied in with the financial oligarchy. The names are not drawn out of a hat.

The new boss is exactly like the old boss, and all the Presidents since before Wilson, who have all been anywhere from financial oligarchy stooges to those simply heavily influenced by the oligarchy and surrounded by it's minions as advisors. Plans to put the current occupant on a possible path to residence would have started when he was introduced into the Pritzker local fiefdom of the oligarchy by Valerie Jarrett. The Pritzker fiefdom has the fingerprints of a number of oligarchy-type relationships: offshore banking (Castle Bank for one), Meyer Lansky, CIA, Harvard Law, TransUnion credit reporting agency (globalism key strategy is consumer reliance on debt). Interestingly, TransUnion has a few folks in management that also have HSBC (original opium trade bank) and Booz Allen on their resume.

The President of the US does not speak to anyone at CIA except the top-level management. So he would only be aware of what they told him, which gives CIA, in effect, complete latitude to do as they want to on behalf of the financial oligarchy, without the President having the need to know. This gives the President not only plausible deniability but it actually frees his conscience up from worrying about CIA escapades because he really only knows what they tell him ("want to know").

CIA has long associations with outside groups like the Ford Foundation, and many others, that are all key elements of the financial oligarchy. These relationships were essential, for example, in delivering NIE's (national intelligence estimates, the President's CIA briefing) which reported that a worldwide AIDS epidemic was a national security threat to the United States. This idea was researched and discussed at length in think tanks and foundations, but they could not directly plop their writings on the President's desk in the Oval Office, since those foundations and think tanks ARE NOT part of the US government. But with all the meetings, yackity-yack and intellectual overlap between "experts" and the CIA, the CIA was able to "become aware" of the problem and slap together an unclassfied NIE for President Clinton at the end of his reign. This document, being an NIE, officially "created the crisis", providing justification for Bush II to sign Executive Orders to "counter the threat".

It's ludicrous to think that Al-Qada is telling CIA what to do when CIA is doing the bidding of most of the financial oligarchy that indirectly controls most of the world's wealth (via Boards of Directors being selected from amongst like-minded people trained under the oligarchs' university system), when Al-Qada gang members are paid three hots and a cot and some walkin' around money by their paymaster to rape and pillage populations into accepting the Bank of International Settlements banking regime.

Muslim Brotherhood is the creation of MI6, the sister organization to CIA. The US/UK financial oligarchy has for a century had the strategy of creating chaos in the middle east, frequent upheaval, constant struggle, puppet regimes, etc., to facilitate their business dealings. Interestingly, I've found some hypotheses that when Valerie Jarret was growing up in Iran, her father was a CIA asset used to help ferret out Mosaddegh loyalists. While it was very dismissively denied, it certainly would explain a lot.

Western NGOs, notably Soros's network (CIA affiliated, globalist-backed when necessary, such as for induced financial panics), have partnered with CIA/State on revolutions for decades in Eastern Europe and now the Middle East. Soros job openings in the middle east over the past few years, USAID efforts over that time, etc., have shown the organizational efforts have been underway for years.

Al-Qada terror network is called in when rebellion fighting gets too intense for paid demonstrators. News coverage is coordinated by globalism (boards of directors ensure this), which includes Al-Jazeera, apparently well-known in the middle east to be a Western front operation.
39 posted on 06/14/2013 1:25:07 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“I do hope we dont get mixed up with this mess”

Too late - Obama has just said he will arm the rebels. He is arming Al-Qaeda because he says he has prove Syria used Chemical or biological weapons - why is he not subject to the same scrutiny that GW Bush was. Liberals accept his every word with unflinching devotion never questioning him.

Where is your proof Obama? - show us your proof - and not just proof that it happened but that it wasn’t actually captured weapons used by the rebels who by all accounts don’t care who they kill!

Mel


40 posted on 06/14/2013 1:50:54 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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