Posted on 06/12/2013 1:24:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Always FRiend, and thanks!
I'm kind of curious to what this guy really has up his sleeve, especially after finding out he was under assignment in...Hawaii.
I just find that little factoid a bit curious.
That one's easy. He went to Hong Kong because it's highly unlikely that obama is going to order a drone strike on Chinese territory.
From the whithehouse.gov homepage.
“By the time the disaster of the Great Depression hit the country, Coolidge was in retirement. Before his death in January 1933, he confided to an old friend, “. . . I feel I no longer fit in with these times.”
These times...
God Bless America..
like I said
my point was not addressing the pros or cons of the NSA’s activity
but wondering if “public citizen hero/whistleblower” was really snowden’s MOTIVE
As to when China became the very apotheosis of fairness, I remain quite unclear...
He could be a Chinese spy that decided to expose the NSA’s domestic spying as a means to appear to be legitimately seeking asylum in China.
From Cisco support community - Nearly all the Catalyst switches are from factories in China. Wireless access points are also in China.
FUD.
In my opinion, you've nailed it. Good point. Snowden's still in the upper half of the Hero-Meter for me.
The guy says he’s not a traitor or a hero. Just an American. That works for me.
I am grateful for what he released last week but I do wish he wouldn’t toy.
Oh, dear condemn what good conservatives are left who still are out here working to make a difference. He may rat out how bad our government is for what..cyber secrets. I thought scary China was just doing it and our precious Obama would not do such a thing... like giving the finger to the 4th Amendment without a search warrant or just probable cause/the person does not even have knowledge that they are being accused. Yes, glad he is coming forward. I know it must be difficult for some in seeing their government to be humiliated. The government has been dishonest and disloyal more than this guy. Imo. My hope which looks weak, that this policy will be changed... (because too many like being snooped on as they give up their civil rights).
I repeat the question, how certain is it that he is/was in Hong Kong?
Agreed and seconded.
He may reveal some useful info regarding our personal freedoms, but talking to the commies is no good.
You are right about that and American communists are the worse. Hard for some to swallow the fact that the US government is now more communist then China, more totalitarian then Russia and more corrupt then Mexico.
Take a look at where Cisco routers are manufactured sometime.
It’s amazing to me how some people naively accept any narrative that comes out against this man now.
It would take little to no effort for our intelligence agencies to have disappeared Snowden and replaced him with someone with a close enough resemblance to convince a Chinese journalist who’d never met him before.
If Hollywood can do it, do you really think our government can’t?
No one should take anything at face value at this point.
He’s made the LIV’s aware of stuff WE have been aware of for a while. That’s a universal good that’s come of this. Prior to Snowden any conversation I’d have with LIV relatives would end with their telling me to buy aluminum foil an laughing.
They’re not laughing now.
My guess, China knows everything and they are dumping it all through their fall guy. Anticipate complete government collapse.
Nothing would make Big Brother happier.
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That shouldn’t be the issue. This guy could still be a hero. And he could still be a flake. We don’t know yet. But if he took out any info on his thumb drive that is valuable to the Chinese that would argue for “flake”.
Let’s hope he didn’t.
If we’re hacking Chinese computers, then good for us. We should be. Russia’s too, and Iran’s.
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