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DOJ: Anti-Muslim Rhetoric Could Violate Law
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 06/05/2013 3:54:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

A U.S. attorney in Tennessee said that it's possible that some inflammatory criticism of Muslims posted on social networking sites could violate federal civil rights laws.

“We need to educate people about Muslims and their civil rights, and as long as we’re here, they’re going to be protected,” U.S. attorney Bill Killian told the Tullahoma News last week. “This is also to inform the public about what federal laws are in effect and what the consequences are.”

Killian, along with an FBI agent, are expected to attend a meeting Tuesday in Manchester, Tenn. hosted by a local Muslim group to “educate people on the First Amendment and its application in society.”

His comments sparked concern among conservative groups that the federal government is about to crack down on anti-Muslim rhetoric -- a claim the U.S. attorney denies.

“It has nothing to do with Sharia law,” Killian told me in a telephone interview. “It has to do with the United States Constitution and federal statutes. You have a right under the First Amendment to hate Muslims. You can hate all Muslims if you want to."

But he added a caveat -- "as long as it does not rise to the level of violating federal civil rights laws.”

The meeting comes after a Tennessee lawmaker posted a photograph of a man aiming a shotgun with the caption, “How to wink at a Muslim.”

“It’s an open forum to discuss the First Amendment -- to discuss its application to all religions and to Muslim religions,” he said. “And to discuss federal civil rights statutes which we’ve done at other times and other places.”

Killian said the federal government has participated in at least a dozen similar Muslim education meetings across the state.

But Andy Miller, of the Tennessee Freedom Coalition, believes the federal government is using those meetings to silence and intimidate critics of Islam.

“There’s an effort to step on free speech -- any speech that’s contrary to Islam,” Miller tells me. “It seems like our federal government is going down that path.”

Miller said Tennessee has become a battleground over what he called a crackdown on anti-Muslim speech.

“This is the Bible Belt,” he said. “There’s an effort to prove that if they can do it here, they can do it anywhere.”

Killian said the supposition that the federal government would prosecute people for exercising their constitutional rights is “ridiculous.”

“We don’t prosecute people for the First Amendment,” he said. “In fact, this event is promoting the First Amendment for all people -- not only to exercise their religion, but to express their freedom of speech regardless of what it is.”

But the big question is where free speech might cross the line and violate federal civil rights laws.

“Could an Internet posting or letter in the mail or a phone call or a personal confrontation constitute a violation of those statutes,” he asked, citing 18 US Code 241 and 18 US Code 245. “Yes, it could.”

So what about the lawmaker who posted the photograph of the shotgun? Would that be a violation of federal law?

“I don’t know whether it does or not,” Killian said. “We’re treating that as if it were offensive conduct and trying to use this event as we have on many other occasions in the district -- utilize events of this nature to have people understand the Muslim religion and the Arab and Muslim people.”

Miller said the government’s explanation is problematic.

“It doesn’t make anybody here locally feel any better,” he said. “It seems as though they are creating a sacred group here that consistently gets attention from the federal government.”

“It’s interesting the Department of Justice and Homeland Security really seem to take up the banner for the Muslim population,” Miller said. “Why aren’t they having one for the Baptists? Why aren’t they having one for the Methodists? Why aren’t they having one for Jews?”

And Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, believes the Obama administration is using federal law to protect Muslims from criticism, Politico reports.

“In its latest effort to protect followers of Islam in the U.S., the Obama Justice Department warns against using social media to spread information considered inflammatory against Muslims, threatening that it could constitute a violation of civil rights,” the group wrote online.


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1 posted on 06/05/2013 3:54:48 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
"We need to educate people about Muslims and their civil rights"

and Eff all the rest

2 posted on 06/05/2013 4:00:54 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Kaslin

Muslims are using our own Civil rights laws against us.

When they establish their Sharia laws , there will be no more Civil Rights.

The greatest Civil Rights Muslims have is the right to go back to where the hell they came from. I advise them to use that right.


3 posted on 06/05/2013 4:02:37 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kaslin

4 posted on 06/05/2013 4:03:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kaslin

Sorry but I am not bowing down because of your Muslim love fest. Muslims suck and they are not going to take over this country because of payoffs from the Saudis.


5 posted on 06/05/2013 4:04:15 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Neither will I


6 posted on 06/05/2013 4:09:49 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Venturer

You said it


7 posted on 06/05/2013 4:10:24 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

I think nearly everyone on FR feels that Muslims have a right to worship PEACEFULLY, but not to try to convert, kill, or maim Christians in the name of their PEACEFUL (not) religion. Unfortunately our current adminstration feels a little (or not so little) colateral damage of Christians is acceptable.


8 posted on 06/05/2013 4:13:49 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Kaslin
“I don’t know whether it does or not,” Killian said. “We’re treating that as if it were offensive conduct and trying to use this event as we have on many other occasions in the district -- utilize events of this nature to have people understand the Muslim religion and the Arab and Muslim people.”

So, spreading religious understanding of Islam (and only Islam, apparently) is now a primary responsibility of federal prosecutors? Maybe there will soon be reports from the meeting to have taken place last night, and maybe we'll get something other than more mealy mouthing from this prosecutor with too much time on his hands.

9 posted on 06/05/2013 4:14:24 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Kaslin

So they’re also going to go after all the muslims who call for beheading anyone who isn’t a muslim, right? Right? I mean, everyone’s equal under the law, right?

No?

Then the law is no longer legitimate.


10 posted on 06/05/2013 4:18:29 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Kaslin

and anti-Christian speech will be rewarded??


11 posted on 06/05/2013 4:19:14 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Kaslin

Meh. I don’t talk about Muslims. They are just people.

I talk about Islam. And thanks to the first ammendment, I am unfettered.


12 posted on 06/05/2013 4:19:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin
These people say these things because they're enemies of America.

They use words like "could" and "may" so they cannot be quoted as having anti-American sentiments, but they are enemies, nonetheless.

If they can get some public momentum going, they'll push harder and get some kind of law on the books ... the whole purpose being to destroy 1st Ammendment rights and help usher in an enemy faction.

There are no muzzies in my redneck community, but if one tried to move in, he'd not be able to keep up with the flat tires, broken windows and et cetera's.

13 posted on 06/05/2013 4:23:18 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

I was there

It was an indoctrination...

Tennessee is ground zero right now for an attempt at Sharia law...

Everyone yelled at this Dhimmi to resign...


14 posted on 06/05/2013 4:23:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: elpadre

With this DOJ? You betcha


15 posted on 06/05/2013 4:23:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Mohammed was a pedophile and his followers are demon-worshippers. Prosecute me, you dhimmified son of a whore.


16 posted on 06/05/2013 4:24:38 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Tennessee Nana

And if he doesn’t then he needs to be recalled


17 posted on 06/05/2013 4:26:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
This is Obama’s DOJ taking away our free speech on the Internet.

Our country is not America anymore, it is no longer a free country.

The question is which government agency is the democrat Obama not using to rig elections, target political enemies, or take away our freedoms?

18 posted on 06/05/2013 4:30:55 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Kaslin
islam is a death cult and has never been a real religion. muslims are taught to kill or enslave anyone that will not convert to islam. There is one group that hates Americans no matter where on Earth that they live... muslims. There are no good muslims... only “moderates” that await their turn. Do not doubt me. What group of people are so evil and so demonic that Buddhists in Myanmar are openly at war with them? That's correct... muslims. When you get Buddhists to start killing you... you might me a demonic death cult.

LLS

19 posted on 06/05/2013 4:30:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Kaslin

Calling this SOB a traitor is mild.


20 posted on 06/05/2013 4:32:17 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Kaslin

10 minute interview with Andy McCarthy:

“Using federal civil rights laws to criminalize negative criticism of Islam. For example, this conversation we are having right now would be something the DOJ might investigate as a potential crime under the civil rights laws. If they take that tack, that is the evisceration of the first amendment and the country is pretty much over if that’s where we are headed...”

McCarthy also discusses McCain’s trip to Syria by way of Turkey, “Turkey being now our Nato ally and the lifeline for the Hamas terrorist organization. I can’t say that enough times because I can’t wrap my brain around how we let that happen.”

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/podpress_trac/web/181892/2/06042013_McCarthy.mp3


21 posted on 06/05/2013 4:32:48 AM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: Kaslin
But the big question is where free speech might cross the line and violate federal civil rights laws.

The simple answer to this not so big question is that it cannot happen. Free speech cannot "cross the line" and cannot "violate federal civil rights laws". By definition, so long as we are a constitutional republic, federal civil rights laws cannot abridge the freedom of speech.

Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech. The First Amendment is perfectly clear, and I will not defer to any law that violates the First Amendment. In fact, I will go out of my way to publicly violate any such interpretation of the law.

22 posted on 06/05/2013 4:36:32 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

And the Koran is Satan’s scripture.


23 posted on 06/05/2013 4:37:02 AM PDT by abclily
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To: Kaslin
The Muslim democrat Obama and his DOJ are trying to install Islamic sharia law in the USA.

This is Obama’s DOJ taking away our free speech on the Internet.

Our country is not America anymore, it is no longer a free country.

The Obama democrat used the IRS to rig the election and still the IRS is preventing conservative groups from helping on legislaation ,2014 etc. Notice that liberals have all the money as all we hear on Rush is the liberal commercials for Amnesty posing as conservatives.

The question is which government agency is the democrat Obama not using to rig elections, target political enemies, or take away our freedoms?

Obama has used just about every gov agency to target and intimidate political enemies. The news media instead reports on Holmes the mass shooter. if this were a Republican president the IRS hearings would be on all TV networks live all day long

24 posted on 06/05/2013 4:39:16 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: cuban leaf

Islam is what Muslims do, and day in, day out, it is an ugly picture overall.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


25 posted on 06/05/2013 4:49:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda Est)
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To: Kaslin
DOJ: Anti-Muslim Rhetoric Could Violate Law

LOL!

Scare tactics. If it were against the law to insult , bloodletting, goat-humping camel jockeys, there would have been no question that it 'could' violate a *law*.

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Islam - the barbaric religion of inequality and human sacrifice......

Come and get me, DOJ.

I'm sick of this crap, and YOU are out of your jurisdiction, you totalitarian POS!

26 posted on 06/05/2013 4:49:32 AM PDT by MamaTexan (The sign of an educated mind is the ability to entertain a thought without agreeing with it)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Has anyone published a full account with pictures and videos? It would be great to see it here. Sounds like there were a lot of patriots.


27 posted on 06/05/2013 4:54:57 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Slings and Arrows

“Muslim son of a whore” is the perfect way to describe Obama.


28 posted on 06/05/2013 4:57:01 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Kaslin

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/05/uk-police-probe-at-least-54-more-muslim-child-sex-slavery-gangs-.html

This is why the shotgun-bearing man, showing how to wink at a Muslim could be appropriate, and not extreme.


29 posted on 06/05/2013 4:57:20 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Pollster1

And the GOP/RNC response to what so clearly should be a firing and bitch-slap?? Crickets...

The 2nd is also so clear, as is the 9th and 10th. That doesn’t mean the D.C. crowd and their payroll (IE: judges) won’t still throw anyone in the gulag.


30 posted on 06/05/2013 5:15:12 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: FreedomPoster

If you have not seen this post, you need to. It NAILS what is happening and why we must be diligent:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3022557/posts?page=27#27


31 posted on 06/05/2013 5:21:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin

ROPE.

TREE.

NECK. (Some assembly required.)


32 posted on 06/05/2013 5:29:43 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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33 posted on 06/05/2013 5:31:18 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: ClearCase_guy

34 posted on 06/05/2013 5:31:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: jsanders2001
Sorry but I am not bowing down because of your Muslim love fest

I wonder where there lies more passion, in Obama's love for Islamic radicals or in his hatred for the United States of America.

35 posted on 06/05/2013 5:36:25 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Kaslin

Unreal. And Christians continue to be slandered, berated, day in day out not to mention the federal governments attempts to force Christians to go against their faith. This regime led by this twice unconstitutionally elected ADMITTED foreign born communist Kenyan can KISS MY A—!


36 posted on 06/05/2013 5:44:31 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Kaslin

FLASHBACK:

Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims ‘feel good’
The Telegraph
By Toby Harnden in Washington | 06 Jul 2010

Excerpt:

The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make “reaching out to the Muslim world” one of the space agency’s top priorities.

(...)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html


37 posted on 06/05/2013 6:05:07 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Kaslin

Ya know, these are pretty broad and could be easily applied to any mosque where the Muzzies are preaching Jihad.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/245

Of course, the DoJ won’t apply them there. Select enforcement is the favorite tool of tyranny.


38 posted on 06/05/2013 6:12:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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To: Little Ray

18 USC Section 241 also definitely applies to the coordinated activities of the regime in trying to deny free speech rights to the Tea Parties and other conservative groups and individuals. Of course, getting it enforced is rather a bit of a different matter.


39 posted on 06/05/2013 6:27:29 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Little Ray
Select enforcement is the favorite tool of tyranny.

That's a keeper.

40 posted on 06/05/2013 6:34:50 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Kaslin

DOJ can go eat pig schmucks fried in dog water.

41 posted on 06/05/2013 6:37:44 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: libstripper

Fox said last ni9ght that we had 3000 at the rally at 5.30

the Holiday Inn Convention Center seats 60 and about 100 more stood at the back

tyhen apparantly the police wouldnt let anyone else in...

The Moslems were mad that so many of us were there...

Pam Geller was there so Im sure she will post something...

also there were TEA Partyies etc...

The Tennessean has an article but its biased...

a woman told them she didmnt feel safe amongst us..

LOL

I thionk there were some ringers thopugh..

Oner woman kept demanding wer be “courteous”

the same man kept ordering us to “let him speak so we can learn what he has to say”

Well we already knew thank you very much

they had an agenda

it was an indoctrination videos Power Point slides and all...

One of the Moslem woman at the podium yelled into their mic for us to “SHUT UP”

Oh how rude...:)

It was lots of fun...

The Moslems have plans for Tennessee to be ground zero for Sharia law and we are pushing back...

Every time they said “Hate crimes” we shouted “Ft Hood” “Boston” etc


42 posted on 06/05/2013 6:40:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: libstripper

Well, as we all know, laws are for “little people” like tax payers. They are not for the Great Lords and their servants who sit in judgement in the imperial capital, Washington, DC.


43 posted on 06/05/2013 6:46:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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To: Kaslin

moozlums are anti-civilization freaks. There...I said it.


44 posted on 06/05/2013 6:46:41 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: cuban leaf
“Meh. I don’t talk about Muslims. They are just people.
I talk about Islam. And thanks to the first ammendment, I am unfettered.”

I also thought Muslims were considered a race of people but I looked up Muslim and Islam two days ago and found out a person of any nationality who believes in Islam is a Muslim. If an American believes in Islam, he/she is a Muslim. Arab is a race of people, Muslim is not.

In my opinion, Hussein is a Muslim which means he believes in Islam. His race is African plus white. No one knows of which country he is a citizen.

45 posted on 06/05/2013 7:00:55 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Portcall24

Not anymore I don’t. They just need to go. They cannot be trusted to stay passive.


46 posted on 06/05/2013 7:01:23 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Kaslin

Uh huh. Yea. Right. Well. I wasn’t able to attend but there were about 2000 tea party folk that showed up at said meeting last pm in Manchester, TN. Ummm. It was described as “very racous”. Keep pushing people-these are the things that revolutions are made of.....


47 posted on 06/05/2013 7:01:35 AM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: Marcella

In my opinion, Hussein is a Muslim which means he believes in Islam.


This. I like to say that your first seven years are your first 70 years. It is amazing how you absorb everything you learn from “adults” as core truth.

Look at Obama’s first seven years. Look at his actions as an adult. You are spot on.


48 posted on 06/05/2013 7:11:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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49 posted on 06/05/2013 7:20:34 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Kaslin

National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie
Decided on June 14, 1977; 432 US 43

The Court ruled that the National Socialist (Nazi) Party COULD NOT BE PROHIBITED from marching peacefully,
simply BECAUSE OF THE CONTENT OF THEIR MESSAGE

http://aclu.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=425

And

The Westboro Baptist Church - SCOTUS has already ruled on this in the case: from the majority decision:

“Speech is powerful, it can stir people to action, move them to tears of both joy and sorrow, and as it did here inflict great pain. But under the First Amendment, we cannot react to that pain by punishing the speaker. Instead, the national commitment to free speech, he said, requires protection of even hurtful speech on public issues to ensure that we do not stifle public debate.”

This issue is an outrage and is one of those issues that needs to be ‘headed off at the pass’ ... I suggest a phone barrage to your Rep. in The House and your Senators.

Never ever give up Freedom of Speech in any degree


50 posted on 06/05/2013 7:31:14 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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