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Wisconsin trucker jailed on gun charges in western New York
Journal Sentinel ^ | June 4, 2013 | AP

Posted on 06/04/2013 10:13:34 AM PDT by Sopater

Ellery, N.Y. — A truck driver from Wisconsin is in a western New York jail after state police say they found him carrying an illegal handgun and other weapons.

Troopers conducting a commercial vehicle checkpoint Monday afternoon on Interstate 86 in the Chautauqua County town of Ellery say they were inspecting Michael Coulter's tractor-trailer when they found a Hi-Point model JCP .40-caliber pistol inside the truck.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; rapeofliberty; secondamendment; tyranny; waronliberty

1 posted on 06/04/2013 10:13:34 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

He forgot to read the sign in Big Whiskey, NY.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 10:15:35 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Sopater

3 posted on 06/04/2013 10:15:45 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

Trucking regulations are very strict, especially if you’re transporting hazardous cargo. I find it ridiculous that a trucker can’t have a gun to protect himself and his rig when traveling around the country.


4 posted on 06/04/2013 10:19:49 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Sopater

Hmmm, a Commerce Clause challenge perhaps? The Teamsters strike in NY on behalf of one of their brothers? Shut it down for a week and the state would be truly hurting.


5 posted on 06/04/2013 10:21:18 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: smokingfrog
I find it ridiculous that a[n] trucker American can’t have a gun to protect himself and his rig when traveling around the country.

My $0.02.
6 posted on 06/04/2013 10:22:44 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

In fart too many places, Americans do not have 2A rights, but very restrictive privileges handed out by the tyranical ruling class.


7 posted on 06/04/2013 10:25:46 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: smokingfrog

Truckers are hijacked all the time. They can be carrying cargo that is extremely valuable. Imagine what a trailer full of Iphone 5’s is worth? They pull over at truck stops to sleep almost every night. I know I’d want to be armed... I think I’d refuse to go to states that didn’t respect my right to defend myself. If the trucking industry would just boycott NY...


8 posted on 06/04/2013 10:26:52 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Sopater

The only thing the police should have done was tell him to get a better gun.

NY and any other state that does not honor my 2n Amendment rights is off my visit list.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 10:34:09 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: umgud

“In fart too many places,”

;^) I do too.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 10:39:36 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sopater

I don’t know of any regulatory body that doesn’t trample on civil liberties.

Even a fishing license somehow is supposed to mean a fish cop can come and search you w/o probable cause.

The govt’s authority to regulate does not mean they can regulate away the bill of rights.

How does stuff like this get through the supreme court?


11 posted on 06/04/2013 10:39:52 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: 3Fingas

you are right. Friends don’t let friends buy rotten guns.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 10:44:26 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

Lol. I was kidding about the high-point. It would be the quintessential butt-ugly, cheap, “truck gun”.


13 posted on 06/04/2013 10:52:44 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas
The only thing the police should have done was tell him to get a better gun.

Since he was going to NY, he probably just decided to bring along a throw-away, just in case it got confiscated. ;-)
14 posted on 06/04/2013 10:53:31 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: donmeaker
Friends don’t let friends buy rotten guns.

Had to do an intervention once on a friend who was thinking about buying a high-point .45

All's good now. ;-)
15 posted on 06/04/2013 10:55:27 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

It’s gotten to the point where entering some states with a gun is the equivalent of entering Mexico. But at least in Mexico you can usually bribe your way out of jail.


16 posted on 06/04/2013 10:56:36 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Sopater

That brings up another question. I am not a trucker so I honestly don’t know any better, but don’t police need a search warrant or probable cause to search the driver’s cab of a truck?


17 posted on 06/04/2013 10:58:23 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Sopater

That cheap gun is going to cost him a lot. However I think he is protected by the Firearm owners protection act that makes it legal to travel through a state with a banned unlicensed gun as long as you dont stay overnight. He was caught when they stopped him at a checkpoint.


18 posted on 06/04/2013 11:00:06 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: 3Fingas

I am told that Glocks in their various incarnations are good ugly cheap guns.

If you get one stolen while travelling, you are out the gun, but no affection because you can easily get another just like it.

I particularly like the 10mm variant. One of the few semi auto handguns that you might like to take hunting.


19 posted on 06/04/2013 11:00:46 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

My uncle had to shoot a robber that tried to enter his cab while sleeping in the sleeper at a truck stop! The assailant had a weapon also! My Uncle always said he hated having to shoot the guy but it was him or me at that point, and UNC took a round to the shoulder. One less bell to answer!


20 posted on 06/04/2013 11:05:25 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: donmeaker

Yeah, Glocks make good depdendable truck guns, but they aren’t all that cheap. They run north of $500 dollars these days. For that price, you can buy 2 or 3 High-points and 250 rounds of ammo. If the first High-point jams, toss it and keep trying each until one works. LOL.


21 posted on 06/04/2013 11:14:35 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas
...don’t police need a search warrant or probable cause to search the driver’s cab of a truck?



You'd think.
22 posted on 06/04/2013 11:15:25 AM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

This is a job for the International Brotherhood of Teamsters.


23 posted on 06/04/2013 11:21:57 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: 3Fingas

“.....but don’t police need a search warrant or probable cause to search the driver’s cab of a truck?”

I was wondering the same thing. Did they ask to search, and did the driver give permission? Otherwise, it’s an illegal search, no?

Here in Maine, the State Police have weigh stations they set-up from time to time. They weigh the truck to make sure it’s not above the weight limits for the road or highway, but other than that, the police are basically checking those things that affect the safe operation of the truck.....brakes, tires, etc.

I’ve never heard of them searching the driver’s cab / sleeping area.


24 posted on 06/04/2013 1:06:52 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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To: donmeaker

“Friends don’t let friends buy rotten guns.”

Here’s video showing a hi-point getting the ultimate test, including getting run over by a truck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXmAmg


25 posted on 06/04/2013 3:15:52 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Sopater

So far, every case of gun owner intimidation and or arrest that I have read about since the new NY gun grab law went in to effect has been done by NY State Police.

The same State Police that shall be from this day forward know as the “Stasi” in honor of their heroes, the former East German police organization of the same name.


26 posted on 06/04/2013 5:10:01 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: sergeantdave

Failed my standards at the first malfunction/doublefeed jam.


27 posted on 06/04/2013 10:33:11 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

It may be state of origin profiling, which would be a violation of the P or I clause.


28 posted on 06/04/2013 10:35:01 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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