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Baby Boomers Are Killing Themselves At An Alarming Rate, Raising Question: Why?
The Washington Post ^ | June 4, 2013 | Tara Bahrampour

Posted on 06/04/2013 6:09:19 AM PDT by Biggirl

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To: xenob

Do you take responsibility for anything or do you just blame everyone else for your problems?


101 posted on 06/04/2013 7:43:13 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: demshateGod

God can only present His promises to us. He will not supersede our own choices. I agree that God is always there for us, but there are times in life when that simply isn’t enough for everyone.

Again, this isn’t God’s failing. It’s ours. Do keep in mind, we are not perfect. We can try to live good lives, and love God, and respect Him, but there can be times when the human condition is too weak to prevail.

None the less, I do see that failing in this context to be the unpardonable sin.


102 posted on 06/04/2013 7:46:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: Biggirl

because they inherited the greatest country in the world and destroyed it?


103 posted on 06/04/2013 7:48:26 AM PDT by Vision (We are not descended from fearful men)
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To: miss marmelstein

This was a symptom of selfishness. It’s easy picking for rhetorical games, but the fact stands: Buying a car that you like, that won’t fit your family, had its roots in an overall paradigm.

I never said I had lousy parents. My mom eventually got a mini-van. In fact, I said my parents were/are good people.


104 posted on 06/04/2013 7:50:59 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: umgud

Big time BUMP!


105 posted on 06/04/2013 7:54:16 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: DoughtyOne

Romans 8: 28 & 29 leave no room for human error. Our sin abounds but grace abounds more. I can’t say whether or not a true born again Christian is capable of suicide, but I can say a Christian who has a dynamic relationship with Christ is incapable of suicide.


106 posted on 06/04/2013 7:57:18 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 11th Commandment
One of her statements (paraphrasing) was that the Baby Boomers are the first generation in the history of mankind that believed it could create a Utopian society (I recall that she pointed out that other generations understood that his was reserved for the afterlife).

Interesting take.

Quite wrong of course.

There were numerous attempts to create "heaven on earth" long before the word "Utopia" was coined. And there were a whole bunch of attempts afterwords.

So they were not the first generation nor will they be the last.

107 posted on 06/04/2013 8:04:35 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: demshateGod

Human beings are flawed. They are incapable of being perfect. I do believe in time there is a possibility that there will be humans who do attain perfection through Christ very shortly before the Second Coming, but as a rule today, no.

I only say this because probation closes at some point, and those who will be saved will have their fate sealed. They will have been tested and thereby perfected.

The problem with our flawed nature today, is that you can be a devoted Christian 99.99% of the time. It only takes that one time when you’re devastated beyond sound mind, for you to succumb.

Sure, theoretically you can avoid sin if you’re constantly connected. That avenue is open to us. So far, only one human in history has attained that perfection, a total 100% connection with God and ultimate perfection.

We sin. At the present we cannot ‘not sin’. That’s why we needed and still need Jesus’ sacrifice. It purchased our sinful souls back.

So I hear what you are saying. In theory you’re right, but humans being the frail sinners they are, I’m not convinced you’re totally right.


108 posted on 06/04/2013 8:10:41 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m not talking about sinless perfection. I’m talking about total despair vs saving comfort. Those who abide in Christ will receive saving comfort from Christ sometime before the point of suicide. They can still despair, but not unto death.

You said it doesn’t matter how strong your faith is... I say a strong faith/relationship will overcome anything.


109 posted on 06/04/2013 8:17:56 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

Well, sorry to misquote you. I still think that parents can pick whatever car they want and kids should just suck it up. When I was a kid, I spent most of my time sitting on someone’s lap while driving in too small cars. We didn’t even know there was a problem!


110 posted on 06/04/2013 8:29:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: demshateGod

All have fallen short of the glory of God.

Not some...


111 posted on 06/04/2013 8:33:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were Iviolated...)
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To: Biggirl
They rejected God, morals and ethics for a new age philosophy and worship of Gaia. God brings life and prosperity, Satan causes death and destruction of marriages, children and hope for a better future, eternal life.

I am one, turned 60, 6 weeks ago been married for 39 years and have three very "successful" children, all with Gods grace and mercy.

112 posted on 06/04/2013 8:45:50 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Biggirl

Wait, its just a matter of time until the issue of *disco* is brought up and us boomers are blamed for that too.


113 posted on 06/04/2013 8:54:08 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: detective
Being a white man in your 50’s in America today is to be a punching bag for every selfish group in this declining country.

Including a few on this thread. I usually avoid generational psychiatry such as this article because it's seldom useful to apply the resulting generalizations to such an individual thing as suicide. Nevertheless, the statistics cited (30% male suicide, 7% female) are a little disturbing if true.

I can think of broad trends that may contribute - we are a vastly over-medicated society, especially with respect to depression, and not only the direct effects of that medication but the effects of changes in dosage, changes in the form of medication, and withdrawal from that medication, are areas where the whole thing turns from therapy to a giant chemical experiment with an unknown outcome.

That, however, does not explain the racial and sexual disparity. The cultural bias against white males that is stoutly denied by the Left even while they're doubling down on it can certainly be a bit depressing, especially if one is restricted to television as a source of cultural input. The real problem is buying into it in the first place, a thing a lot of my generation were far too uncritical about over the last forty years or so. If you have faith, a fair idea of who you are, and a withering skepticism about pop sociology that makes you out the universal bad guy, avoid medication, have participated in your country in the form of military service; in short, if you're stubborn, lucky, and conservative, you're pretty much immune. These days that tends to be a smaller portion of society than it used to be.

I don't think any of this is restricted to the Boomers, either; it's just that many of us in that generation are reaching that retrospective point in life that can lead those who haven't lived one to a morass of regret. That isn't something that is restricted to a generation.

114 posted on 06/04/2013 9:06:44 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Vision

America was destroyed from the 1930s through the 1970s, long before the boomers were old enough to get involved.

Democrats wrote a law to replace the American voter.

From unionizing government, to Vietnam, to the 1965 Immigration Act, JFK was the end of us.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”


115 posted on 06/04/2013 9:26:05 AM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Blaming whole generations of people is pointless. There are many people in each generation who are blameless. What we have here is your predictable decline of a civilization. The cycle is very predictable.

Stage 1: The Rise - Strong work ethic and shared beliefs allow a society to become prosperous
Stage 2: The Golden Age - Society achieves its zenith; people still adhere to common beliefs that created greatness
Stage 3: The Decadence - Prolonged prosperity and leisure cause many in society to forget the practices that made them wealthy. Civic virtue is challenged and morals begin to decline.
Stage 4: The Decline - Prosperity fades. Society begins to pine for the better days of the past. The people corrupted know what to do to stop the decline but either can’t or won’t take those corrective actions.
Stage 5: Collapse and transformation into something else.
The previous civilization is dead. Stage 1 of its replacement has started. Stage 1 may take a very long time.

In the cycle above, the process can be halted or delayed at any stage. It rarely is reversed. That only happens when there is a great awakening. Eventually, every civilization succumbs to this cycle.


116 posted on 06/04/2013 9:53:09 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

I agree with you re: blaming generations.

Don’t agree that we’re nearly back to Stage 1 yet. I’d say we’re soundly in Stage 4.


117 posted on 06/04/2013 10:34:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I never said we were in Stage 1. However, I agree that we are in Stage 4. I don’t see any signs of a great awakening. The Reagan 80’s was a temporary reversal, but the decline resumed with a vengeance after his departure from office.


118 posted on 06/04/2013 10:39:43 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

Ah, sorry—I scanned to quickly and thought the last line of the Stage description was part of your assessment as to where we are. We are in total agreement.


119 posted on 06/04/2013 10:41:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: caver
Do you take responsibility for anything or do you just blame everyone else for your problems?

That is not the Gen-X/Y/Z way...........

120 posted on 06/04/2013 10:46:52 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: 9YearLurker

I forgot to include that civilizations can also be destroyed by military invasion, natural disasters, or plagues which can happen during any stage of the cycle.

Apocalyptic times, millennial thinking becomes more commonplace in Stage 4. The fear of the people, due to civilization’s weakness, is well-founded.


121 posted on 06/04/2013 10:48:23 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: doorgunner69

Blaming whole generations is pointless. I will refer the right honorable gentlemen to my earlier post.

Besides, this gen-xer voted for Reagan. :=D


122 posted on 06/04/2013 10:50:29 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Biggirl

I always thought there was something of a disconnect or dissonance in the idea that people should be free to live their lives as they chose, and yet they are disparaged for choosing to end their life.


123 posted on 06/04/2013 11:50:23 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Biggirl

Made me think of the cliche “lies, damned lies and statistics”.


124 posted on 06/04/2013 12:49:29 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Agreed, it was a long time ago and maybe she meant American Generation....


125 posted on 06/04/2013 2:21:04 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Biggirl
There are plenty of reasons to commit suicide.

What's amazing is how many people somehow NOT turn to suicide.
126 posted on 06/06/2013 2:11:57 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Coldwater Creek
COWARDS! There is always a mess for someone else to have to clean up. Suicide is NEVER the answer.

Mess just takes an hour or two and some strong detergent.

If one can't answer the question "what is my purpose?" then neither will anyone else. Of course, if you have immediate dependents such as children then it will be a huge problem for them.
127 posted on 06/06/2013 2:14:40 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: bray
Life without God is an empty existence of chasing smoke and ash. Everything the world tells you is a lie. Pray for America to Wake Up

Life is always without God. We are entirely on our own until the hereafter.

This universe is a completely chaotic, random, and hopeless place.
128 posted on 06/06/2013 2:17:09 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Biggirl
I can tell you I've battled clinical depression since early in the Kenyan's first term. If anyone, it's gotten worse since the stupid electorate returned the Marxist to office.

Although more and more it's being replaced by sheer anger.

129 posted on 06/06/2013 2:20:48 PM PDT by Marathoner (Impeach Obama, Holder, Big Sis, and throw in IL Gov Quinn for good measure)
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To: demshateGod
One thing I took away from the book is that suffering is a necessary part of being fulfilled.

I read that book in 12th grade 40 years ago and it has somewhat sustained me (along with religion and immediate family) for all these years. However, my prescriptions are EXACTLY THE SAME as the man in the article and some other aspects of the situation have been similar. Fortunately, a prayer was answered and my credit card debt (due to not being able to work) was reduced substantially. Without that last bit of grace things would be real gloomy and maybe even untenable about now. Why I was chosen for that I don't know. Maybe there was meaning in the suffering?

130 posted on 06/06/2013 2:27:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Wanderer99

Only if you stubbornly ignore God’s creation. You made my point better than I ever could.

Pray for America to Wake Up


131 posted on 06/06/2013 4:56:53 PM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: bray

Sometimes we just know when we’re worthless and hated by God.


132 posted on 06/08/2013 2:21:15 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Wanderer99

Nobody is hated by God.
People are brainwashed to believe in atheism.

Pray for America to Wake Up


133 posted on 06/08/2013 3:49:49 PM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: demshateGod

Not sure I can feel your pain on that one. My parents had pickups because the roads were too bad for a car and pickups at the time didn’t have club cabs so we always lapped up or kids rode in the back if we all went somewhere together. I didn’t feel slighted by that- when my parents went to town they took one or two of us and the rest of us had to stay home and do chores. It is just how it was and I never thought twice about it.


134 posted on 06/08/2013 6:31:03 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: B212

I notice the older I get the smarter my parents get and they have both been dead for many years. I may be a slow learner but at times I wish I could go back and listen to them- I think my life would have been much easier.

I tried the “modern” ways for a while- after two failed marriages, a stressful job, and a drinking problem, I did wise up and then this amazing man that has been my hubby for over 30 years came into my life and we raised children together that are pretty self sufficient and are on their way to success in work, and they still love us and each other. Our children for some reason have had relationship issues but maybe they will wise up because it is mostly them picking the wrong people to begin with.


135 posted on 06/08/2013 6:39:08 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Biggirl

Who wants to live around smug and self-righteous people such as some of those posting on this thread? It’s better to off oneself!


136 posted on 06/08/2013 6:41:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Tammy8; demshateGod
I got to go for a ride in the car once a year to the beach. That ended before I was ten.

I thought that many boomers hadn't done sufficient retirement planning, had to continue working, didn't see an end in sight, which led to depression and suicide. Some of them thought that the '80's would last forever.

137 posted on 06/29/2013 10:21:58 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (You don't like the way I drive? Stay off the sidewalk.)
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