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Will a jury convict him?
1 posted on 05/30/2013 6:04:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: SeaDragon

Sheesh, I hate to see that this came out of Spokane.


43 posted on 05/30/2013 7:17:52 AM PDT by RikaStrom ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~Voltaire)
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Not if there is one sane person on it.
On the other hand, this is Washington state, so sane people are kind of rare, and are probably kicked out of jury pools...


44 posted on 05/30/2013 7:22:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it gettingthe so hot?)
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Hope not.They should give him at least TWO awards.One for ridding society of vermin,and another for being a damn good shot!


46 posted on 05/30/2013 7:28:34 AM PDT by bandleader
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Will a jury convict him?

Not if I'm on the jury.

Lessons:

(1) Know your state laws about firearms and use of force.

(2) Lock your car when warming it up.

50 posted on 05/30/2013 8:21:29 AM PDT by matt1234 (The NRA: Redefining "Too big to fail.")
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“Will a jury convict him? “

Hopefully not, Spokane is in the “rational part” of Washington just a few minutes from Idaho.


52 posted on 05/30/2013 8:48:27 AM PDT by vette6387
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Sounds to me like the perp would have been armed and dangerous had he been able to drive.

Cars kill a lot more people than guns each year.

Gail Herbert Gerlach had a right to fear for his life and responded appropriately.

Just good old common sense.

58 posted on 05/30/2013 9:19:03 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy......Nuff said.)
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The law is even more confusing in Texas. You may only use deadly force to stop a theft after dark (again, this is Texas law only ... check your local laws). When is it actually “after dark”? Another bit of confusion.

Short version ... it’s usually not OK to use deadly force unless you reasonably believe your life is in danger, and that does not seem to be the case here.

But I’m just talking about Texas here. I have no knowledge about other parts of the nation.


60 posted on 05/30/2013 10:02:12 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Teaching part time and enjoying it. I just can't afford it!)
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http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/apr/04/gerlachs-single-bullet-paralyzed-killed-kaluza/

Update to April, 2014 on the Gail Gerlach trial, Spokane, WA

Jury selected, 911 call heard, medical report.

All they talk about is the self defense issue. But the law is clear that in the State of Washington you can shoot someone to prevent a felony. That includes shooting someone that is fleeing.

Newspaper predicts the trial to last a week.


63 posted on 04/05/2014 11:56:02 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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Don’t pick a fight with a boy named Gail.


64 posted on 04/05/2014 11:57:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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Don’t forget that this is Washington State ... I’m sure their jury pool is as crazy as the prosecutors!


65 posted on 04/06/2014 12:02:09 AM PDT by galtman (America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.)
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Police kill people for much less and get away with it.


66 posted on 04/06/2014 12:04:11 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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How did the term "carjacker" get into the headline? Wouldn't the vehicle owner have to be in the car for it to be "carjacking"? More like "Spokane homeowner who shot car thief charged with manslaughter".
68 posted on 04/06/2014 12:09:57 AM PDT by Drago
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http://www.khq.com/story/21802052/grandmother-of-suspected-car-thief-shot-killed-he-wasnt-a-violent-person

Kaluza last saw her grandson Sunday night – the night before he was killed – when he came over for dinner and raked her pine needles. She says it was his dream to own a landscaping business, and was trying to get his life back on track.

“Just Sunday I gave him two leads on landscaping jobs,” she said, adding that she was going to take Kaluza-Graham and his little brother to get their drivers licenses – but never got the chance.

His license was revoked when he spent a year in jail on charges of vehicle theft, possessing drugs and assaulting a police officer. He was just released in January, and was applying for jobs. Before that, he’d been convicted four times for taking a vehicle without permission.

Kaluza admits her grandson made a few mistakes the last few years, but says he didn’t deserve to die.

Police say Kaluza-Graham had just jumped into a running SUV and was driving away when the owner of the SUV fired one shot. The medical examiner reported the shot hit him in the head, and ruled his death a homicide.

“To me, it was an execution, he was driving away and he was shot in the back of the head,” she said. “It’s one thing to have someone you love taken from you accidentally, but to be shot needlessly? Our thought is, if he just wanted his car back, why didn’t he shoot for the tire?”

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69 posted on 04/06/2014 12:15:21 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Spokane is in Eastern Washington which may be more conservative than Seattle. If my statement is true then his odds of acquittal would be better than if tried in Seattle. As a general rule the law has been for as long as I can remember that one cannot shoot a person stealing ones car-absent the use of force and violence by the perp.


73 posted on 04/10/2014 3:57:11 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I guess my definition of a car jacking is a lot different than this guys.

I had a gun put in my face...he left his car idling unattended...a pretty big difference in my opinion.


74 posted on 04/10/2014 4:03:17 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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Gail said he saw Brendon raise his arm in his direction; he thought Brendon had a gun. But police later searched the car and didn't find a weapon.

Did they find a cell phone or cigarette lighter? That is good enough for the Kings men generally.

75 posted on 04/10/2014 4:10:07 PM PDT by MileHi
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