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Rand Paul announces 2016 campaign
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Posted on 05/25/2013 10:11:56 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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1 posted on 05/25/2013 10:11:56 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul announced Friday he will be on ballots in November 2016, but he told voters in his home state that they might be the only ones with a chance to vote for him.

Keep shilling for amnesty, Rand, and that might well be the case.

2 posted on 05/25/2013 10:13:43 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Sub-Driver

Wonderful, dumbass number 1.


3 posted on 05/25/2013 10:14:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Do the Republicans have anybody to run in 2016? It’s early but I’m getting concerned already. We cannot afford to run another stiff or a washed-up “my turn” old man like a Dole or McCain.


4 posted on 05/25/2013 10:18:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Sub-Driver

Shocker. /s


5 posted on 05/25/2013 10:18:59 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Title is misleading.


6 posted on 05/25/2013 10:19:45 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SamAdams76

The field will be more conservative than in years past, and will have more powerful debaters.

I honestly think the debate cycle for our 2016 primary will be the most interesting in recent memory.


7 posted on 05/25/2013 10:21:05 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: onyx

1) Sarah Palin.

2) Ted Cruz.

3) ... let’s get this started.


8 posted on 05/25/2013 10:24:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Sub-Driver

I stay away from libertarians of any stripe.

He won’t get my vote.


9 posted on 05/25/2013 10:26:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Viennacon

I certainly hope so. I guess one positive to take away from the last election is that watered-down conservatives did poorly and there were some true conservatives that won some key local races. Let’s hope that the lessons have been learned for 2014 and 2016.


10 posted on 05/25/2013 10:31:31 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Sub-Driver

Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, __________?

Jeb Bush, Chris Christi

The first four would present themselves as conservative, whether or not they are. But again, we have a possible field that would split conservative votes and allow blue state Republican primary voters to pick our candidate.

Conservatives and non-RINOs need to settle on one or two conservative candidates before the primaries, or we’ll have another RINO.


11 posted on 05/25/2013 10:36:10 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Paul Ryan


12 posted on 05/25/2013 10:36:17 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: GeronL
Megadeth front man Dave Mustaine provides some rare sense (Speaking of Ron Paul in 2012)

Paul "makes total sense for a while, and then he'll say something so way out that it negates everything else".
13 posted on 05/25/2013 10:36:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hubris. Wanton, unabashed hubris. Get yourself elected Governor of Kentucky for a term. You might be ready to run for POTUS afterwards.


14 posted on 05/25/2013 10:36:37 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: GeronL

Of the last crop I would vote for Bachmann, Cain, or Santorum again.


15 posted on 05/25/2013 10:38:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver
He's been in the Senate what, a year and a half?

I have a suspicion that he will be like his Daddy and run every 4 years.

Some of his talk does sound pretty good, and his filibuster made waves.

He is more preferable than JebB, Christie, Rubio, Ryan.

16 posted on 05/25/2013 10:39:08 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Viennacon
Title is misleading.

I'll say. Very odd, given the quote from Sen Paul on which the article is based:

"For now, (what) we know for sure is we're going to run for the U.S. Senate," he said, according to a report from The Independent. "The other decision can come later."

17 posted on 05/25/2013 10:40:41 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: cripplecreek

Those are good choices, but the “retread factor” would hinder them I think.


18 posted on 05/25/2013 10:44:26 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Nah. Looking for someone who did not support Romney. In the end, they are all Republicans. Maybe a third party conservative who will restore America’s economy and end world policeman role.


19 posted on 05/25/2013 10:45:15 AM PDT by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

There is absolutely no way Sarah Palin could stand up to a debate with Ted Cruz. None.


20 posted on 05/25/2013 10:48:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: lonevoice

Newt said that all illegals should go home and then be issued ‘blue cards’ upon their return. In between they can be fingerprinted and not allowed to vote. Check and see if those fingerprints show up at a crime scene. Furthermore a draft board-like panel of local citizens should interview each and every one. That would and should be the starting point. Anything less would be kow towing to the left.


21 posted on 05/25/2013 10:48:38 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: SamAdams76
Do the Republicans have anybody to run in 2016?

Several of those in the 2012 primaries have already threatened to try again in 2016.

The GOP doesn't need another also-ran; they need a candidate who can win.

So far, that list doesn't have any names on it.
22 posted on 05/25/2013 10:51:22 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Carry_Okie
There is absolutely no way Sarah Palin could stand up to a debate with Ted Cruz

You failed to mention that probably NO ONE could stand up to Cruz in a debate. He is that damn sharp.

23 posted on 05/25/2013 10:57:39 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: conservativehistorian

Paul Ryan endorsed homo marriage a few weeks ago. He’ll never get my vote under any circumstances.


24 posted on 05/25/2013 10:57:59 AM PDT by greene66
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To: catfish1957
You failed to mention that probably NO ONE could stand up to Cruz in a debate. He is that damn sharp.

No offense, but there are a number of FReepers who could, the only problem being that we'd likely end up agreeing. :-) OTOH, Sarah Palin has (to my mind) done little to correct what is quite evidently a deficient education.

25 posted on 05/25/2013 11:02:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’ll take that bet. :D

Either way, it’s good.


26 posted on 05/25/2013 11:03:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SamAdams76

That’s why I left no comment........


27 posted on 05/25/2013 11:03:45 AM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: greene66

Actually, to correct myself, it was “homo adoption,” not marriage, that Ryan embraced. Just as bad, if not worse.


28 posted on 05/25/2013 11:04:32 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Carry_Okie

I am also still wondering about Cruz’ eligiblity. Freepers have made compelling arguments on both sides.


29 posted on 05/25/2013 11:07:28 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: catfish1957

It is a legitimate concern. Yet instead of elevating Cruz (he can quite evidently do that on his own), we need to be finding and elevating more like him.


30 posted on 05/25/2013 11:09:26 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Viennacon

Becoming a very common habit, it seems


31 posted on 05/25/2013 11:10:01 AM PDT by knarf (uals-two logic)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Sarah is not going to run for anything ... I'm convinced.

She's a nice lady, strong, conservative and would be a wonderful President ... but she ain't gonn'a run.

32 posted on 05/25/2013 11:11:18 AM PDT by knarf (uals-two logic)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Neither Sarah Palin nor Ted Cruz will get the Republican presidential nomination, although I much admire and like both.

I shall propose two R governors as possible nominees:
Bobby Jindal
Mike Pence


33 posted on 05/25/2013 11:12:51 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s how I’ve always described Ron Paul.


34 posted on 05/25/2013 11:16:47 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: SamAdams76
Do the Republicans have anybody to run in 2016? It’s early but I’m getting concerned already.

*******

Take your pick.......

4 way tie for Republicans, Clinton leads Dems

PPP's monthly look at the 2016 Republican field for President finds essentially a 4 way tie at the top- Marco Rubio has 16%, Jeb Bush and Chris Christie 15% each, and Rand Paul 14%. Paul Ryan at 9%, Ted Cruz at 7%, Rick Santorum at 5%, Bobby Jindal at 3%, and Susana Martinez at 1% round out the potential candidates we tested.

******

The Fix’s first rankings of the 2016 Republican presidential field!

1. Marco Rubio: 2. Chris Christie: 3. Bobby Jindal:
4. Paul Ryan: 5. Jeb Bush: 6. Rand Paul:
7. Mike Pence: 8. John Kasich: 9. Rob Portman:
10. John Thune:

******

2016 Republican Presidential Odds


Candidate 	Odds
Chris Christie 	7/1   Marco Rubio 	 8/1
Sarah Palin 	10/1  Paul Ryan         12/1
Rand Paul 	15/1  Jeb Bush 	        18/1
Mike Huckabee 	18/1  Eric Cantor 	20/1
Mike Pence 	20/1  Bob McDonnell 	25/1
John Kasich 	28/1  John Thune 	30/1
Jon Huntsman 	30/1  Bobby Jindal 	30/1
Luis Fortuño 	35/1  Jim Demint 	35/1
Scott Walker 	35/1  Scott Brown 	35/1
Ken Cuccinelli 	40/1  Rob Portman 	40/1
Rick Santorum 	40/1  Tim Pawlenty 	40/1
Nikki Haley 	40/1  Susana Martinez 	40/1
Kelly Ayote 	45/1  Rick Perry 	45/1
Mitch Daniels 	50/1  Julian Castro 	75/1
Newt Gingrich 	100/1 Pat Toomey 	100/1
Herman Cain 	200/1 Condi Rice 	500/1
Mitt Romney 	500/1 Donald Trump 	500/1
Field 	         18/1

*****

35 posted on 05/25/2013 11:17:29 AM PDT by deport
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To: darkangel82

Yup, they start strong, then they keep talking and wander wildly off the rails. (Not to mention claiming successes that don’t really belong to them)


36 posted on 05/25/2013 11:19:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver

The only way the GOP will ever manage to sway me back into the fold is via Palin, Cruz, or someone strongly in that clean-government, reformer vein... someone who would be willing to actually tackle the whole corrupt system, the “professional political class,” the money-drenched nexus of government-media-big business. The whole repellent cesspool. Someone that will give Karl Rove and the scumbag GOP-E nightmares.


37 posted on 05/25/2013 11:24:52 AM PDT by greene66
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To: greene66

Sounds like you’re describing Rand ;)

Only knock on Rand is immigration but he will come around before the primaries. Rand will coalition build with libertarian/constitutionalist conservatives, social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. In other words, he can bring the oalition that Reagan brought together in 1980.


38 posted on 05/25/2013 11:46:54 AM PDT by SSDecontrol
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To: TomGuy

Rand is easily better than any of the so called “front runners” right now. Only Cruz can best him and he may not even be eligible.


39 posted on 05/25/2013 11:49:17 AM PDT by SSDecontrol
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Sounds as pie in the sky as moon bases in 2012. Sorry....


40 posted on 05/25/2013 11:50:15 AM PDT by SSDecontrol
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To: Viennacon

“The field will be more conservative than in years past, and will have more powerful debaters.

I honestly think the debate cycle for our 2016 primary will be the most interesting in recent memory.”

The presidential debates will be more interesting too...providing the GOP learned its lesson re: the Candy Crowley fiasco.


41 posted on 05/25/2013 11:53:13 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: deport
1. Crispy 2. Mr. Amnesty and 3. Sarah

Ha! Sarah can kick 0-hugging Crispy and Amnesty-loving MarcoPhone Rubio right off deck, handily.

42 posted on 05/25/2013 11:54:02 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: catfish1957

Cruz is the reason why I am still fervent on Obama Eligibility.

If we are able to confirm Obama was foreign-born...and he is not removed by Congress or the courts...they could not do same to Cruz...legal precedent would have been set with Obama. Cruz could become President

More reason to pursue Obama’s Birth Certificate


43 posted on 05/25/2013 12:00:45 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not only Rand will have problems with his pro-Amnesty stand....a lot of his supporters were also his Dad’s supporters...and they are PO’d with Rand for supporting Romney before his Dad dropped out of the ‘12 race.

The GOP will have to run a conservative in the primary to keep that seat....Rand will not get the support like he did his last run


44 posted on 05/25/2013 12:07:40 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Does that mean that Rand Paul is, or is not, announcing his 2016 Presidential campaign? I think you had multiple tabs open and replied to the wrong one :-)
45 posted on 05/25/2013 12:16:37 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Unless Cruz jumps in (if he can) Rand is our best choice, especially compared to Rubio, Bush, Santorum, Paul Ryan etc. Rand isn't tying himself to an amnesty plan like Rubio.. Here is Rand's statement regarding amnesty:

I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.

I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.

Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation's security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.

46 posted on 05/25/2013 12:21:57 PM PDT by SSDecontrol
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To: catfish1957

Cruz stated on Hannity’s show the he “would let others decide” on the subject of his eligibility. At least he is honest about the controversy unlike Rubio.


47 posted on 05/25/2013 12:25:32 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: SSDecontrol
"Rand is easily better than any of the so called “front runners” right now. Only Cruz can best him and he may not even be eligible.

Just a couple of weeks ago you were posting, over and over again, that Ted Cruz is definitely not eligible. Do you think there's a chance he might be eligible after all?

48 posted on 05/25/2013 12:34:15 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thanks for noticing! I think he is not. That said, I don’t think our side will care so much though and will be willing to overlook his ineligibility using Obama as example. I don’t think this is the right way but whatever. I don’t believe that winning anything is so important that the rules should be sloughed off, even if the other side has already done it. Just my two cents.

Anyway, I predict that we will only get Rand or Cruz, not both, they are Texas Wackobird friends after all :)
I think if Cruz is it, Rand will support him right from the start and vice versa. With the current batch of GOP hopefuls we have right now, only Rand or Cruz cuts the mustard.


49 posted on 05/25/2013 12:40:34 PM PDT by SSDecontrol
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To: SSDecontrol
" I don’t believe that winning anything is so important that the rules should be sloughed off, even if the other side has already done it. Just my two cents."

Which is why I won't go for Rand "Immigration Reform" Paul.

50 posted on 05/25/2013 12:53:19 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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