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Mum Talked Down Woolwich Terrorists Who Told Her: "We Want To Start A War In London tonight"
The Telegraph ^ | May 23,2013 | Claire Duffin

Posted on 05/23/2013 5:08:26 AM PDT by Biggirl

A mother-of-two described tonight how she put her own life on the line by trying to persuade the soldier’s murderers to hand over their weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; altereddate; britain; dupe; london; terrorism; woolwich

1 posted on 05/23/2013 5:08:26 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

They got their war——they lost.

Too bad they had to kill to get it.

We all need to wake up.

Muslims must be culled.


2 posted on 05/23/2013 5:11:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Biggirl

Good for her. Brave and level headed.


3 posted on 05/23/2013 5:17:48 AM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright
I couldn't have done it


4 posted on 05/23/2013 5:24:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

These guys were born in Britain I heard - yet still talked about their land they have never been to.


5 posted on 05/23/2013 5:30:15 AM PDT by edcoil (If you can't change the rules, then ignore them.)
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To: Biggirl

In Red State America, it is very likely that a CCW holder would have dropped one or both of these Islamic warriors, assuming it wasn’t in in a super-safe gun free zone.


6 posted on 05/23/2013 5:33:36 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Biggirl

Another reason we need our guns.


7 posted on 05/23/2013 5:37:04 AM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: bergmeid

It took 25 minutes for the cops to arrive.


8 posted on 05/23/2013 5:40:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Biggirl
22 May 2013
9 posted on 05/23/2013 5:43:05 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Biggirl

British women have more balls than Briish men.


10 posted on 05/23/2013 5:43:24 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Biggirl
Hey, Savages!! The idea that you are against killing Muslims is the biggest pile of manure. Just this week, hundreds of Muslims were blown up in Iraq by other Muslims. Why is it, you haven't tried to do anything about Muslim savagery against Muslims?

Why are we allowing Muslims into our country?

I have an idea. 1. Close off Muslim immigration. 2. Shut down Mosques that preach Shariah + Jihad. 3. Become energy independent. 4. Become a huge energy exporter. 5. Close the Persian Gulf, stop Saudi, Iran, etc., from exporting oil. 5. Quarantine the Muslim World. 6. Let them solve their own problems.

11 posted on 05/23/2013 5:44:51 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: miss marmelstein
It took 25 minutes for the cops to arrive.

Heard that also. Something ain't right.

12 posted on 05/23/2013 5:51:11 AM PDT by McGruff (I can't speak to the law here. The law is irrelevant,)
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To: miss marmelstein
MPs praised the “extraordinary bravery” of the women and raised concerns about why it took armed police 20 minutes to arrive at the scene while people’s lives were at risk.

According to a security source the delay in the armed police response is “particularly surprising” because there is a heavily armed police presence at Woolwich Crown Court, which is just two and a half miles away.

Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the Home Affairs select committee, said: “We are all grateful for the local people who responded so quickly.

13 posted on 05/23/2013 5:55:56 AM PDT by McGruff (I can't speak to the law here. The law is irrelevant,)
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To: McGruff

“It took 25 minutes for the cops to arrive.”

“Heard that also. Something ain’t right.”

Sounds about right if you consider the police had to go to the Armory and check out a weapon. From what I have read, the police do not carry a weapon on a routine basis.


14 posted on 05/23/2013 6:09:10 AM PDT by Max_850
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To: Biggirl

This is the key detail in this incident. Eyewitness testifies they were sober and sane. They just had very different ideas about what was appropriate than we’d like to assume. I wonder how long it will take for the eyes wide shut media to bury this.


15 posted on 05/23/2013 6:15:00 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: SampleMan

In Texas it would have taken about 2 minutes or less.


16 posted on 05/23/2013 6:20:02 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Damn straight.


17 posted on 05/23/2013 6:35:31 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Biggirl
MPs praised the “extraordinary bravery” of the women and raised concerns about why it took armed police 20 minutes to arrive at the scene while people’s lives were at risk. According to a security source the delay in the armed police response is “particularly surprising” because there is a heavily armed police presence at Woolwich Crown Court, which is just two and a half miles away.

Well, you see, it's like this: First, they had to fill out the paperwork to request their weapons from storage. Then that paperwork had to go up the chain of command at least three levels. Then they all had to stand in formation and ask "Mother, may I?" three times. Finally they all bundled into their police van and started off.

"Whoops, we forgot the bullets!" So they rebundled back to Woolwich Crown Court and started the whole paper process over again, this time using the bullet paperwork.

That they made it in under 30 minutes is a miracle and should be applauded.

18 posted on 05/23/2013 6:39:41 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Undicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Biggirl

They might get one. The victim’s Army mates are not going to sit idly by.


19 posted on 05/23/2013 6:44:02 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Biggirl

She has more guts than I do. I would have pulled out my .45 and perforated both of them.

But this is UK so even though the terrorists had a firearm the subjects don’t...


20 posted on 05/23/2013 6:53:16 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: SampleMan

The article said people were distressed that it took 20 minutes before police arrive.

In reality the citizens are always the “first responders,” regardless of their level of preparation for that role.


21 posted on 05/23/2013 7:03:07 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: Venturer

A herd is culled to improve the herd.

Islam needs to be treated like a disease that needs to be eradicated.

You simply cull the muslim herd, the muslim herd will grow again and once again, sometime in the future, the world will have to deal with the problem of Islam.

I’m sure there are some here that will say this is the same thinking as the Nazis with their plan to exterminate the Jews.

You want to cull the herd to keep the threat of islam down, then you will also need a plan to keep the muslim herd culled so they never have the number of muslims to pose a threat again.


22 posted on 05/23/2013 7:06:03 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Resolute Conservative

In Texas these punks would have been taken under fire from 6 or 8 different directions before the poor soldier was killed.


23 posted on 05/23/2013 7:08:22 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: NonValueAdded
That they made it in under 30 minutes is a miracle and should be applauded.

They probably had to consult their "How to Shoot a Gun" manual.

24 posted on 05/23/2013 7:14:50 AM PDT by Starstruck (Don't rest. We came close to the 2nd Amendment being field tested.)
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To: Starstruck
They probably had to consult their "How to Shoot a Gun" manual.

Probably the "How to load" section.
25 posted on 05/23/2013 7:17:07 AM PDT by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: keats5
In reality the citizens are always the “first responders,” regardless of their level of preparation for that role.

The lesson of Flight 93 - and a tradition going all the way back to before the founding of our Country.

26 posted on 05/23/2013 7:46:21 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Undicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: IMR 4350

I don’t disagree entirely.

But just like Catholics who are not always 100% faithful to the religion, there are Muslims who do not feel the urge to kill everyone who is not a Muslim.

I do not believe in genocide, but we do need to cull the herd of radicals and suspected radicals.

We also need to set a quota for Muslims coming into this country I believe Zero should be that number.

Our country believes in Freedom of religion, but Islam is not a religion , it is a political cult posing as a religion. When a political cult threatens a nation it is downright stupid to allow that cult to exist.


27 posted on 05/23/2013 7:51:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Patriot365

I would like to think so...but surprisingly enough, it is a rarity that someone, other than law enforcement takes out a similar perpetrator...Think of all of the mass shootings we have had over the years...People just standing or running away versus attacking, taking out the perpetrator.


28 posted on 05/23/2013 7:52:43 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: SampleMan

Just theoretically and definitely not talking about myself some ccw holder might have not seen the gun free zone signs and taken care of business anyway. Those signs are so hard to read if you forgot your glasses!


29 posted on 05/23/2013 7:55:11 AM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: Venturer
It's a numbers game.

At 1.6 billion muslims, 10% radical gives you 160 million.

For every radical you cull at least 2 will take their place for the simple reason the culled are “prepared to die for allah” are seen as martyrs and are honored in their religion. Others will want to become martyrs and honored too.

You can't defeat islam simply by killing the muslims that are ready to meet allah. To defeat islam you have to kill the muslims that aren't ready to meet allah.

They don't have to die, they can always renounce the death cult that is islam and live.

30 posted on 05/23/2013 8:16:41 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Biggirl

Too bad Britain does not have a hangman any more. I see fodder for the rope.


31 posted on 05/23/2013 8:20:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn, the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: Venturer

“...there are Muslims who do not feel the urge to kill everyone who is not a Muslim.”

Ask the peaceful ones what should happen to those who insult the prophet?


32 posted on 05/23/2013 11:00:51 AM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Satayana and doomed to repeat him)
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