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IRS figures find grilling before Congress taxing (What If We Don't Pay Taxes Next April?)
The Washington Times ^ | May 21, 2013 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 05/22/2013 7:10:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

You know you are a serious societal pestilence when even politicians can kick you around. Which is why the Senate Finance Committee called Steven Miller, former acting IRS commissioner, to testify about the agency’s scheme targeting conservatives for tax punishment.

Right away, Mr. Miller got down to the business of reminding everyone why we all hate the IRS so much.

“Unfortunately, given time considerations,” he began, “the IRS was unable to prepare written testimony.”

Given time considerations? Unable to prepare? Are you kidding us?

Have you ever heard of April 15? Can you imagine if we called up the IRS and said, “Given time considerations, we were unable to prepare our tax filings today.”

Under the threat of a gun and promise of jail time, we file our taxes precisely on time every year. Without fail. Without excuse. Without complaint. Everyone has heard the nightmares of ruinous IRS penalties aimed at destroying lives, families and livelihoods for missing those deadlines.

But given the “time constraints,” you weren’t able to prepare? Tell that to the thousands of small business owners who have gone bankrupt because they couldn’t make payments on time. Or failed to file proper tax returns.

Mr. Miller has hooded eyes with a thick carpet of hair creeping down his forehead like a bed of meatballs sliding off a mound of spaghetti. He became unhinged when Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, Utah Republican, accused him of “lying by omission” for not telling the senator about the scheme when he first asked about it.

“I did not lie,” Meatball spat at Mr. Hatch. “I did not lie.”

How would that go over with the IRS? “I did not lie. I just didn’t include that particular part of income in my filing.....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: internalrevenue; irs; obama; taxes; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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What if?
1 posted on 05/22/2013 7:10:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve said that all along. Want to cause some really tough love.
Don’t pay.


2 posted on 05/22/2013 7:21:15 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s like Lerner saying, “I didn’t do anything wrong”.
Okay, who are you shilling for that did do something wrong?


3 posted on 05/22/2013 7:22:30 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wanna plead the 5th exemption.


4 posted on 05/22/2013 7:23:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is witholding that most of us pay month by month or even week by week.

If we just stop withholding, that will give a large message long before April.


5 posted on 05/22/2013 7:25:02 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What If We Don’t Pay Taxes Next April?

That, my friend, would require conservatives loving their families more than worshipping Mammon.

Through my long years as a village and county council representative, I can assure you that most conservatives care more about dollars for themselves than freedom for their children.

How do I know that? Well, property taxes have been increasing for 30 years, and conservatives haven’t objected.


6 posted on 05/22/2013 7:29:32 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you are STILL working....up your exemptions to 9....that way you can reduce the amount the IRS receives each paycheck (but plan to set aside enough to pay next April....unless of course you don’t)


7 posted on 05/22/2013 7:44:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: donmeaker

Per the W-4 instructions, you can claim up to 10 exemptions without calculation. Over 10 you have to justify the number you are claiming.


8 posted on 05/22/2013 8:40:57 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve read that about 20% (or is it 25%) of people who “should” pay taxes - just don’t file.

How many people can they arrest/jail/etc? There are only so many of them, and almsot unlimited amounts of us.


9 posted on 05/22/2013 8:41:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: sergeantdave

I don’t think that no one cares, but no one knows what to do. Look what happened to Col. Lakin - one man stood up, and no one supported him. Well, a few did, but no one who could do anything. And he got the shaft.

Strength is in numbers.


10 posted on 05/22/2013 8:46:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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I dont think anybody is suggeting not filing, but increasing exemptions could send a message. It would push revenue into the next fiscal year, post 9/30.

When April comes around you could pay the shortfall or request an installment agreement. However, the IRS may request you withhold at a certain number of exemptions.

It is a short term strategy to send a message that we want action on the IRS scandal.


11 posted on 05/22/2013 8:48:44 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: goodnesswins
If you are STILL working....up your exemptions to 9....that way you can reduce the amount the IRS receives each paycheck (but plan to set aside enough to pay next April....unless of course you don’t)

Plan to set aside enough to pay your liability in April *plus* the penalty for under-withholding. Yes, there is a penalty for being under-withheld. I got nailed a couple times by that one.

12 posted on 05/22/2013 8:54:31 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: joshua c

Be advised that if sufficient tax is not paid into withholding there may be a penalty. I am not a tax guy, and am not qualified to give tax advice. I just want folks to know that the IRS doesn’t have much sense of humor.

See, they figure they can play politics with taxes and noone can stop them, but if we was to do it, they would feel it their right and duty to stop us.


13 posted on 05/22/2013 9:20:09 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. If anyone thinks the Partisan Media Shills and spinmeisters aren’t salivating over that prospect, they’re nuts.


14 posted on 05/22/2013 9:25:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: donmeaker
Be advised that if sufficient tax is not paid into withholding there may be a penalty.

Oh, well, then, forget it.

15 posted on 05/22/2013 9:33:56 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: kevao

Not only as you have said, your employer can be sent a withholding order from the IRS to mandetory W-4 filing of single/0. The IRS doesn’t play well with others.


16 posted on 05/22/2013 10:04:07 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what if all taxpayers didn’t pay. and defended each other when irs came by.


17 posted on 05/22/2013 10:08:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


18 posted on 05/22/2013 10:10:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

19 posted on 05/22/2013 10:10:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry: It’s irrelevant; I didn’t know; I just found out about it; It’s a bump in the road; It was a long time ago; I’m investigating myself to make sure it doesn’t happen again; Whether I forgot to pay or not, at this point what difference does it make; It was the video?

I doubt any of those would work.


20 posted on 05/22/2013 10:17:19 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. Penance. Isa 5:18-21 Isa 10:1-3)
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