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DRUDGE: FLASH: ISSA TO SUBPOENA LOIS LERNER BACK TO COMMITTEE...
Drudge ^ | 5-22-2013

Posted on 05/22/2013 12:34:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing

DRUDGE: FLASH: ISSA TO SUBPOENA LOIS LERNER BACK TO COMMITTEE...

'Waived her fifth amendment rights' by giving opening statement...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: house; irs; issa; loislerner; scandal
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1 posted on 05/22/2013 12:34:27 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Good!


2 posted on 05/22/2013 12:35:37 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: smoothsailing

Eventually someone will start telling the truth... this is a good step,.


3 posted on 05/22/2013 12:37:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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To: smoothsailing

There will be a court battle over this. I hope the committee didn’t lose it’s right to press her by excusing her. I know he said it was subject to recall, we will see.


4 posted on 05/22/2013 1:23:56 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: smoothsailing

I know she asserted her innocence in her statement, and that could be viewed as a waiver of her right on the whole topic area.

However, when you are testifying, it’s possible to assert the right as soon as you realize the questioning might incriminate you. So even if a judge orders her to testify, it’s possible she still can assert the right again at some point.

You can be sure this all will be litigated. Lots of delays.


5 posted on 05/22/2013 1:26:54 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams
There will be a court battle over this. I hope the committee didn’t lose it’s right to press her by excusing her.

You mean like double jeopardy for congressional testimony? Congress has a constitutional oversight role. They can call any federal employee to testify whenever and however many times that want.

6 posted on 05/22/2013 1:29:11 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Williams

Which will help keep it in the news, IMO, and that’s good.


7 posted on 05/22/2013 1:29:22 PM PDT by abb
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To: smoothsailing
I think she waived her fifth amendment right when she made a statement that she had done nothing wrong. May turn out her attorney gave her bad advice. We'll see. Hope that she is made to come back.
8 posted on 05/22/2013 1:30:07 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

bttt


9 posted on 05/22/2013 1:30:51 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Christie at the beach

I think you can invoke it at any time but you cannot selectively do so. Once you invoke it, you shouldn’t answer anything related.


10 posted on 05/22/2013 1:32:06 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: RummyChick

Ping


11 posted on 05/22/2013 1:35:49 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God Bless America)
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To: smoothsailing

They’re Republicans.

They’ll cave.


12 posted on 05/22/2013 1:36:24 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge

Don’t think Issa will cave... He is an onrey little cus... Pop some popcorn...


13 posted on 05/22/2013 1:37:58 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it ore leave, and visiting Niagra Fallsmay be too late.)
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To: smoothsailing

Why? Did he forget to validate her parking?


14 posted on 05/22/2013 1:39:02 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

Is this going to happen tonight or tomorrow? Anyone know?


15 posted on 05/22/2013 1:41:46 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Williams

Perhaps that was the point-a attorney like she has would not make such an obivious error. It seems calculated knowing it will be in the courts. We shall see.


16 posted on 05/22/2013 1:51:29 PM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA)
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To: smoothsailing

Except that being in contempt of Congress has very little meaning if the DOJ won’t prosecute.


17 posted on 05/22/2013 1:51:56 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: smoothsailing

Well, if recent history is any indication, she’ll still refuse to answer (and maybe even show up), be deemed in contempt of Congress, and that will be the end of it.

She doesn’t have much to fear when the enforcer of any penalty against her is Eric Holder.


18 posted on 05/22/2013 1:54:50 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: seeker41

Regarding her attorney, I have to consider that these democrats always get attorneys provided one way or another by the party. So he should have told her to just assert the right and that’s it. But of course the democrat politicians didn’t want that blanket refusal to testify, they wanted her to say something self serving first.


19 posted on 05/22/2013 1:55:33 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

I’d make sure she was on camera,
asserting it over and over and over again
to very incriminating questions.


20 posted on 05/22/2013 1:56:02 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: smoothsailing; a fool in paradise

According to insiders in her testimony Ms Lerner quoted O.J. Simpson: “I yam 200% Innocent!”


21 posted on 05/22/2013 1:59:17 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: smoothsailing

How can this be handled to the Republicans’ best advantage?

First, the Republican Committeemembers’ staffs should prepare hundreds of IRS-scandal-related leading questions to be presented to Lois Lerner. For example, ‘’When was the first time you spoke about this to the President?’’

Next, Ms. Lerner should be invited back (subpoenaed) for open-ended Congressional hearings, at which the prepared questions will be asked day after day, and Ms. Lerner can either embarrass herself by remaining silent, implying guilt, or repeat her statements of innocence, boring everyone and implying she’s a fool.

After a week or two of this, the name ‘’Lois Lerner’’ will have become as well-known and ludicrous as the name ‘’Monica Lewinsky’’ still is — a certain laugh line for every late-night comedian.

And the public will identify Ms. Lerner closely with the President since the Republicans’ questions will imply that she visited Obama in the Oval Office to discuss the IRS issues as often as Monica Lewinsky once visited Bill Clinton to discuss their areas of interest.


22 posted on 05/22/2013 2:00:09 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: smoothsailing

Hey Issa, grow some Balls and ignore your leadership RINO’s and do your DAMN JOB!


23 posted on 05/22/2013 2:09:09 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: smoothsailing
Why can’t they just start at the bottom and work their way up? Drag in the low level employees and start hammering them.
24 posted on 05/22/2013 2:12:32 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: MagnoliaB
Drag in the low level employees and start hammering them.

That would be the work of a Special Prosecutor and a Federal Grand Jury. Congressmen ain't got that kind of time.

25 posted on 05/22/2013 2:16:50 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Bluestocking

Yup.

Q. “Was President Obama involved in this scheme to harass conservatives?”

A. “I refuse to respond on the grounds that it may incriminate me.”

Q. “Did you do this on the orders of anyone in the White House?”

A. “I refuse to respond on the grounds that it may incriminate me.”

And so on. Will make wonderful commercials for 2014.


26 posted on 05/22/2013 2:24:19 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Bluestocking
And the public will identify Ms. Lerner closely with the President

Don't his low information voters think he's Superman? Isn't Superman always associated with women who's names start with LL??!! Superman, meet Lois.

27 posted on 05/22/2013 2:25:35 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: jjotto

Might as well get started if we’re ever going to get anywhere.


28 posted on 05/22/2013 3:54:07 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: MagnoliaB

I agree 100%.

But here’s the deal. Special Prosecutor named. Grand Jury impaneled for maximum 18 months. No way any results are known until after 2014 elections, and for 2016 - no Obama to kick around anymore! Democrats have picked the timing.


29 posted on 05/22/2013 3:59:56 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
I don't think anything is going to play well for dimocrats on the midterms. You can tell that by the way they are acting in this hearing. Only a couple made really stupid comments. Their problems started with gun control. That's when they really started shooting themselves in the foot. All these scandals aren't going to disappear before then and they are all associated with their boy. If I were them I would make a real effort to clear up the mess before then.
30 posted on 05/22/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: Bluestocking

Question: Who is Lois Lerner?

Answer: She was not Superman’s girlfriend
but she did audit him last year.


31 posted on 05/22/2013 4:21:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: smoothsailing
IMHO only, she, or her attorney, skewed this whole thing in the first place.

The 5th protects someone from "self" incrimination...or testifying against one's self.

She stated she was taking the 5th to keep from incriminating others...and to make that worse, she is aware then by that admission she knows others to be guilty of incriminating acts criminal acts).

32 posted on 05/22/2013 4:27:30 PM PDT by IrishPennant (All warfare is based on deception.)
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To: smoothsailing
From the live thread today....

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Again from Hot Air:

After she reads her statement where she asserts her innocence and pleads the 5th…

Issa says…OK…We understand that, say would you mind just authenticating whether this IG transcript is we received last night is…authentic…We’d really appreciate that..if you don’t mind.

All lawyer chummy…very polite.

Well I haven’t seen that she replies.

Issa says…Oh so sorry…here hand this to her so she can authenticate it please.

She bit.

It looked to me like a cross examination and response.

Looked like a nifty trap to me…and Gowdy saw that too.

Maybe…Gowdy spoke out but was really talking to her lawyer…Cause she screwed up her 5th pleading both in the opening statement and responding to Issa’s innocuous request for authentication of evidence related to the investigation.

If I were her lawyer…I’d try and convince her to cut a deal and spill the beans.

workingclass artist on May 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM

33 posted on 05/22/2013 4:31:58 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: smoothsailing; a fool in paradise

Issa had to let her go today to attend her previously scheduled singing lesson.


34 posted on 05/22/2013 4:33:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: smoothsailing

It’ll be fun to watch her don the wardrobe of Annie Lee Moss of the McCarthy era, or was it Annie Lee Moses?


35 posted on 05/22/2013 5:16:53 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: smoothsailing

Legally, Issa is 100% correct.


36 posted on 05/22/2013 5:39:09 PM PDT by magellan
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37 posted on 05/22/2013 5:54:55 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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38 posted on 05/22/2013 6:14:21 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: BigEdLB

Yeah?

Rush made an excellent point today on that. Said Issa should have continued to ask questions, over and over and over. Let Lerner repeat her refusal over and over and over.

Instead he just excuses her. What does he plan on doing if she simply refuses to appear next time? Uh, nothing. And she and her handlers know that. Not one..damn..thing he can do. Ask the DoJ to come after her? Har har.


39 posted on 05/22/2013 6:57:50 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Does anyone have any idea what document Issa showed Lerner today? She looked a little stunned while the color was draining from her face.


40 posted on 05/22/2013 7:07:52 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

Don’t know, didn’t watch it.

Disclaimer: My attitude is always biased by my lack of faith in Republicans. When I see Republicans keel hauling one of these Democrat criminals, then I’ll begin to believe they are serious. Until then, I don’t trust the GOP.


41 posted on 05/22/2013 7:13:58 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Toespi
Does anyone have any idea what document Issa showed Lerner today? She looked a little stunned while the color was draining from her face. < p> From the live thread today:

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Again from Hot Air: L

After she reads her statement where she asserts her innocence and pleads the 5th…

Issa says…OK…We understand that, say would you mind just authenticating whether this IG transcript is we received last night is…authentic…We’d really appreciate that..if you don’t mind.

All lawyer chummy…very polite.

Well I haven’t seen that she replies.

Issa says…Oh so sorry…here hand this to her so she can authenticate it please.

She bit.

It looked to me like a cross examination and response.

Looked like a nifty trap to me…and Gowdy saw that too.

Maybe…Gowdy spoke out but was really talking to her lawyer…Cause she screwed up her 5th pleading both in the opening statement and responding to Issa’s innocuous request for authentication of evidence related to the investigation.

If I were her lawyer…I’d try and convince her to cut a deal and spill the beans.

workingclass artist on May 22, 2013 at 11:00 AM

469 posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:02:33 AM by MustKnowHistory

42 posted on 05/22/2013 7:53:45 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Disclaimer: My attitude is always biased by my lack of faith in Republicans. When I see Republicans keel hauling one of these Democrat criminals, then I’ll begin to believe they are serious. Until then, I don’t trust the GOP.

It might be a while, then. Because what likely happens now is that Lerner's attorney cuts a deal, trading testimony for immunity. She's stuck between the rock of testifying and the hard place of a Contempt of Congress charge and jail.

Lerner's testimony will likely be taken in camera via deposition -- there's no need to advertise her testimony to her conspirators.

Then, on the basis of where her testimony leads, more subpoenas will be sent out...and more depositions taken.

Thus, the noose will be drawn tighter...

As with most Congressional investigations, there will be a lot more action in the background than at televised hearings -- which will be reserved for maximum revelation value.

43 posted on 05/22/2013 7:56:07 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Rush made his comments BEFORE we learned that Issa will be calling her back. So everything Rush said then no longer applies.

Even he will change his tune tomorrow.


44 posted on 05/22/2013 8:00:48 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The Buck Stops Over There.)
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To: william clark

She doesn’t have much to fear when the enforcer of any penalty against her is Eric Holder.>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes, and if so, then Holder’s impeachment will be guaranteed, and it will be a bipartisan effort.

Congress will win in the end, but its problem is that it is slow most of the time, but it can also act very quickly.


45 posted on 05/23/2013 1:06:28 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: okie01

“As with most Congressional investigations, there will be a lot more action in the background than at televised hearings . . .”

I think you are right here.

I guess most of us here have a craving to watch a two-hour “Mr. Perry Mason Goes to Washington” show, complete with courtroom drama, surprising testimony, and a satisfying verdict ending in the guilty being lead out of the courtroom by police. We sometimes even joke about getting the popcorn ready.

This is not a made for C-Span movie. It is not a courtroom. And the end is not a jury verdict. That does not mean possible crime referrals should not happen when appropriate, and anyone guilty of crimes should not be given justice, but this is a congressional hearing.

I do think there is a lot going on “behind the scenes.” The line of questioning, the uncharacteristic behavior of some of the democrats, and the squirrely reactions of Lerner and Shulman would suggest that all sides in this “drama” know more than they are saying.


46 posted on 05/23/2013 1:36:26 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“.....Disclaimer: My attitude is always biased by my lack of faith in Republicans. When I see Republicans keel hauling one of these Democrat criminals, then I’ll begin to believe they are serious. Until then, I don’t trust the GOP.”
***************************************************************
Ted Cruz says he doesn’t trust the GOP Representatives & Senators either...the difference is that he’s doing something about it.

God bless good folks such as Ted Cruz and Trey Goudy—the country needs them desperately.


47 posted on 05/23/2013 4:10:11 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: spokeshave

“......If I were her lawyer…I’d try and convince her to cut a deal and spill the beans.”
*****************************************************************
Her lawyer is from a firm with VERY close ties to the Obama administration. She’s being “handled”. And she’s being handled in a way so as to minimize the adverse impact to the Obama regime and agenda. In my opinion, HER interests probably are secondary (in a very non-provable manner—they don’t want to be disbarred) to the interests of Obama and the Obama agenda in the minds, advice and actions of her attorneys.


48 posted on 05/23/2013 4:19:30 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Candor7

How will Holder’s impeachment be guaranteed? With a Democratic Senate? Doubtful. The wild card is how much the mainstream media is willing to turn on the administration and gin up public outrage.


49 posted on 05/23/2013 4:57:25 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: BigEdLB
Don’t think Issa will cave... He is an onrey little cus

And former bomb disposal expert...who has seen the Valley in the Shadow of Death up close and personal.

50 posted on 05/23/2013 6:33:22 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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