Posted on 05/21/2013 5:25:59 PM PDT by blueyon
Edited on 05/21/2013 5:27:06 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Keep in mind that it's the supposed conservatives in the HOR who let Boehner stay on as speaker, even though he had totally sold out to Obama. They only needed 17 votes to vote against Boehner to oust him.
It's all just theater. Now all of those supposed HOR conservatives are going to whine and cry and say how they're with us and they tried. Did they DEFUND Obamacare...No, but they did vote 37 times that it isn't a nice bill. Did the put a conservative in the Speaker position? No. Have any of them said things like take the troops out of Afghanistan etc and put them on the Mexican border? No. Have any said the Deprartment of Education besides being unconstitutional has destroyed public education? No.
Unless there are some real fireworks in the HOR that don't let the pro-invasion bill pass, face it. The conservatives are just part of the team, in disguise. It's not rocket science. Anyone who has entered the US illegally and is still here is an invader. There very being here is an act of war.
I'm not confident about the future, not at all. Unless those conservatives find a way to convince Boehner to step down (that would be a start), I don't see how we save the US.
I always knew that the blue dog threats not to support the ACA were empty.
I hope that getting rid of the Diversity Visa is a poison pill. The chairman of the CBC made a pretty definitive statement on this matter.
Killing the DV is essential to stopping this bill, IMO.
The CBC is invested in open borders, but I don't think they have the same stake in this amnesty as Big Labor, the cheap labor lobby in Silicon Valley and Big Agra, or La Raza and its allies.
That sounds like a possibility. Even if the bill is filibustered in the Senate, the Republicans will take most of the blame for stopping the bill. (This will rally the conservative base but probably will increase the anger among Latino voters, a rapidly growing demographic).
If the bill passes the Senate and then the House kills it, then the Republicans will still take the blame among a large part of the Hispanic population at the polls . However, if the House and Senate both pass it, then the Democrats will likely have tens of millions of new voters, and Conservative Republicans will probably never win the presidency again. In any case, all three scenarios conservatives and Republicans will likely be the big losers. However, passing the bill would probably be the most harmful option to the Republicans.
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